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May 13, 2008
Immigrant Assimilation — Good News or Bad News? Today’s Washington Post reports “Study Says Foreigners In U.S. Adapt Quickly.” The lead-in sentence is, “Immigrants of the past quarter-century have been assimilating in the United States at a notably faster rate than did previous generations, according to a study released today [by the Manhattan Inst.].” If you read far enough down in the article to find out that this report raises red flags. “Vigdor [a Duke University professor and author of the study] also said his findings included cause for concern: most notably, the fact that the 2006 assimilation index of 28 is less than the previous low point of 42 in 1920. The difference indicates the substantial change in the composition of today's immigrants compared with earlier immigration waves.” [FAIR Comment: The dichotomy between this headline good news and the red flags sounds like the fact that any group that starts at a very low number does not have to move very far up the scale to be double or triple the starting point, i.e. you only have to add one to one to increase by 100 percent. And it sounds as if the assimilation scale created by the author starts most of today’s immigrants much lower on the scale than earlier immigrants.] Common sense should not even be an issue. Sounds a bit like another case of skewing the facts to fit the intended outcome... So, how many of those "assimilated immigrants" are illegals? Posted by: takn on May 14, 2008 02:56 AMAssimilating my backside! At any given time, in any public place I hear a minimum of 5 different languages going on around me from people who clearly seem to have no intention of assimilating to this country. I blame our government’s failure to regulate/control the level of legal immigration, and its failure to enforce existing immigration law. Not to mention the propensity of the business community to accommodate all these foreigners. For instance, the Lowe’s in my area provides Spanish subtitles throughout the store, not to mention the 5 languages available at the customer service desk. Needless to say I will not shop at Lowe’s. If we really expect people to assimilate, we ought to treat them as though they are capable of doing so. If we continue to provide for them in their native tongue and customs, why in God’s name would they feel the need to adjust? It is not our responsibility to accommodate their needs; it is their duty to respectfully assimilate to our culture, as they are for all intents and purposes in our home!! And to all you immigrants who find our culture inferior, beneath you, or offensive to your delicate sensitivities – Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out!! THERE IS NO BALANCED POLITICS IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA ON IMMIGRATION Employer enforcement is omitted. Unplanned growth economic destruction root cause from overpopulation in America is omitted. Illegal Anchor Babies are assumed legal. Constitutional Laws on immigration are toilet paper. Illegals committing crimes are covered up or not reported. Anarchist Sanctuary cities are praised. President Candidates that fight amnesty are made to look like KKK and eliminated. SAVE Act gets no publicity. Basically, big business brainwashing runs immigration news in America's media. The economy gets worse with unplanned growth and the media tells us unplanned growth makes it better. They lie. Tha Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 14, 2008 10:28 AMTHERE IS NO BALANCED POLITICS IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA ON IMMIGRATION Employer enforcement is omitted. Unplanned growth economic destruction root cause from overpopulation in America is omitted. Illegal Anchor Babies are assumed legal. Constitutional Laws on immigration are toilet paper. Illegals committing crimes are covered up or not reported. Anarchist Sanctuary cities are praised. President Candidates that fight amnesty are made to look like KKK and eliminated. SAVE Act gets no publicity. Basically, big business brainwashing runs immigration news in America's media. The economy gets worse with unplanned growth and the media tells us unplanned growth makes it better. They lie. Tha Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 14, 2008 10:28 AM
The big change is not in the immigrants, it is in the country they emmigrate to. The immigrants of old came to a country that was expanding, had manufacturing jobs and a huge trade surplus. Immigrants today come to a country that has welfare, affirmative action and a huge discrimination lawsuit industry. They have assimilated to this very well. Posted by: Bill Dexter on May 14, 2008 12:28 PMI'm just waiting for someone to call me a racist because I expect immigrants to assimilate to the America way of life. Brian Posted by: Brian on May 14, 2008 01:02 PMBrian , assimilation is nice, but isn't even the main point to me. Existing immigration law makes illegal immigration a crime. That is reason enough to stop it. It is against the law. Period. It is the lawlessness, that works like a chain reaction with these illegal aliens, where they go from breaking one law after another that is the problem. I don't want lawless people to assimilate. I want lawabiding people to assimilate. Posted by: Bobby on May 14, 2008 05:34 PMILLEGAL ALIENS DON`T HAVE TOO ASSIMILATE, THANKS TO OUR PANDERING SELL-OUT GOVERNMENTS, AND ALSO THEY DON`T WANT TOO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF WANTING TO BE AMERICANS... THEY`D MUCH RATHER TRY FORCE US TOO CHANGE INTO A THIRD WORLD TOILET, LIKE MEXICO... WP IS AN OPEN BORDERS RAG! Posted by: American Me on May 14, 2008 05:43 PMwhether mccain wins or obama wins it does not matter, they are one and the same Posted by: impeachbush on May 15, 2008 10:23 PMSen. Obama Courts Latinos with Driver’s Licenses According to the head of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), Oy vey... POVERTY STRICKEN AFRICAN AMERICANS The elite politicians want slave trade campaign dollars and that comes from unplanned growth in America with more and more hoards of foreigners. To Hades with the legal citizen poor in America. To Hades with the Middle Class. This has nothing to do with the neeed for more civil rights or diversity; we're already the most diverse ethnic group nation on earth, albeit a little more civil rights for the African American and high percentage other legal citizen poor ethnic groups (Caucasion too) in America would add gasoline enriched fire against Obama's elitist motives. Real legal citizen American Civil Rights means halting all unplanned growth immigration and amnesty now! Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 13, 2008 02:08 PMTo hell with those racist anglo laws like making it a criminal offense to drive while intoxicated and driving on the wrong side of the highway or freeway. The idea of having automobile insurance is so white America and who needs those stinkin seat belts- those 12 beers make you feel no pain when your head goes through the windshield, and hell, that family that you hit head on while going 110 miles per hour while driving on the wrong side of the road is dead anyway- so what good did the seat belts that they were wearing do them anyway. This is third world bizarro world America we live in now. Posted by: Future Day Laborer on May 13, 2008 03:02 PMTHIS ANTI-WHITE MIDDLE AMERICA ELITIST WILL SURRENDER OUR COUNTRY TOO THE THIRD WORLD, AND GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS THE KEYS TOO THE COUNTRY! Posted by: American Me on May 13, 2008 03:31 PMSenator Obama has positioned himself far to the left of Clinton on immigration ever since the debate in which he denied any effects of illegal immigration on the African-American community. Readers here will remember that Clinton responded no, illegal immigration depresses wages, hurts black workers, and can be substantially reduced through our nation's foreign policy with Mexico. I agree with all of her points and consider Obama's obfuscation despicable. Despite her tougher stance on illegal immigration, Senator Clinton does far better than Obama with Latinos. If her campaign blog is any indication, she's also faring well with Lou Dobbs Democrats, demonstrating that statesmanship and resolution of this crisis is more than possible with the right leadership because it affects everyone of all ethnic groups. She's also poised to win the popular vote nationwide, so the MSM-adored Obama will have a tough battle ahead if he plans to hoodwink the entire nation into accepting his racially cynical immigration policy. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on May 13, 2008 03:51 PMI translate his statement to: "I really don't want to be president but if the American Public is so stupid to elect me (maybe not by popular vote - but by electoral votes) then I will accept the position so I will pardon all of you illegals and give you licesnes to drive on American highways." NO WAY, JOSE! He just lost any possibility of a vote from me. I guess the Libertarian who just tossed his hat into the ring will get my vote. For that matter, I might just write in Fred's name. Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 13, 2008 04:26 PMObama is an "open border" crazy who claims he is for working men and women. However, he is for illegal aliens taking American jobs and depressing wages. Is there a conflict of interest here? Posted by: Rick S on May 13, 2008 04:49 PMOBAMA NEEDS TO HELP THE POOR BLACK AMERICANS THE ONES THAT ILEGALS ARE TAKEING THEIR JOBS. Posted by: ALOHA on May 13, 2008 06:08 PMFace it, none of candidates will turn away the illegals or immigrants as they wrongly see them as. scary times when our government supports the overflow of our country, Posted by: Mephisto on May 13, 2008 08:16 PMPANDERING, PANDERING, PANDERING! IT`S SICKENING! ILLEGAL ALIENS CAN`T VOTE, SO WHY WOULD THIS OPEN BORDER NUT BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO GIVE THEM LICENSES. LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND AMERICANS OF HISPANIC DECENT COULD CARELESS ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS, AND MOST DON`T WANT THEM TO HAVE LICENSES EITHER. Posted by: Independent Voter on May 13, 2008 10:02 PMWhat a crock! His father was not an immigrant -- he came here to get an education, then abandoned the woman he had impregnated and the child she bore. He left for the mainland to get further U.S. education, then returned to Africa, and took a third wife. Keep going. I may decide to vote for "Dogleg McCain" after all. But keep in mind that candidates often say a lot of things that they know won't come true just to get elected. Posted by: James on May 14, 2008 07:43 AMTO INDEPENDENT VOTER: We all know that illegals "CAN'T" vote but that doesn't mean they "DON'T" vote. Go to the State of California Secretary of State website and you can register on-line and when you do that you are saying to yourself that you are a citizen - there is NOTHING to verify that citizenship. This is another shining example of why we need to show a valid photographic ID when we go to vote. Problem is; no more and more people are signing up for permanent absentee (vote by mail) status so they don't have to show an ID once they are registered. ONE PROBLEM SOLVED - ANOTHER RAISES ITS UGLY HEAD! Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 14, 2008 11:07 AMThe U.S. Supreme Court said it was and is not a burden for persons wanting to vote to have to provide a picture I.D. In Louisiana this has been the law and a requirement for years. No state I.D., state driver's license, passport, or military I.D., NO VOTE! All of these require a birth certificate to obtain. The problem is when persons come from other sanctuary styled states and we are to honor their driver's licenses. I hope we have the common sense to force these people coming from other states to produce a birth certificate and social security number with their out-of-state licenses to prove who they are. Otherwise it's a disservice to Louisianans and unfair to us as well. I don't worry about Barack Obama or the other 2 clowns. I've stated before that I'm voting with the Constitution Party. Voting for any of the "3 AMIGOS" is a wasted vote! Posted by: United Statesian on May 14, 2008 04:49 PMWhen ,oh, when will people understand the Democratic platform towards illegal aliens? In a phrase it is,"the legitimazation of lawlessness." My finances are kind of strained this year, is it O.K. with the Democratic party if I just skip my taxes this year?? You see, I feel I should get a break because the democrats policies of taking my taxes and giving it to anchor babies year after year, has kind of put a strain on my pocket book. You understand, Mr. Obama, don't you? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. Posted by: Bobby on May 14, 2008 05:40 PMCriminal Illegal immigrants do not need drivers licenses. They know that we always given them a bus ride back to the border. Posted by: Brian H. on May 15, 2008 12:03 PMCriminal illegal immigrants do not need drivers licenses. They know that we alway's give them a free bus ride back to the border. Posted by: Brian H. on May 15, 2008 12:05 PMi hope that are moer jamel shaw;s then Posted by: impeachbush on May 15, 2008 10:24 PMLet's not forget that Obama thinks that the fees involved with immigration applications and the lawyers are too expensive and said that he thinks that the taxpayers should be funding their services. There has to be some serious laws that would protect the taxpayers from being ripped off by people who use loopholes to gain legal residency like anchor babies. American's need to be protected from immigrants who would end up causing trouble, or costing us more than we would be willing to spend for their presence in the U.S. I wish that we Americans would get over the guilt that has been inflicted on us making us feel that we owe the rest of the world everything and that we should deny our traditions, language, and culture for the benefit of immigrants who may be offended by them. Someone needs to have the balls to tell the immigrants that they have to be held to the same rules as everyone if they truly want to be equal. Posted by: joeyindc on May 20, 2008 06:31 AMIllegal Alien Raid at Iowa Kosher Meat-Packer A raid by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents yesterday apprehended about 300 We regularly read about ICE raids and deportations of illegal aliens but little information about prosecutions of illegal employers? 80% of the workforce !!! "Authorities have released about 40 workers. . .because they are primary caregivers." Okay. Now, folks, while we are processing these people, let us PLEASE, PLEASE find any and all anchor babies who were born to any parent while in the employ of Agriprocessors - AND HAND THE BILL TO THEM!! I mean it! We need a lawsuit for reimbursement for ALL the costs incurred by their crime. That means ALL the costs for health care, education, welfare, HUD amd WIC. Even if the case lost, it would be very useful to show just how expensive this 'cheap' labor is. Posted by: Bill Dexter on May 13, 2008 01:33 PMMANDITORY MINIMUM SENTENCE OF TWO YEARS IN A MAXIMUM SECURITY FEDERAL PRISON FOR ANY PERSON FOUND GUILTY OF KNOWINGLY EMPLOYING AN ILLEGAL ALIEN AT THIS MEAT PACKING FACILITY. THROW THE BOOK AT THIS PREDATORY SCUM WHO FOLLOW THE PRACTICE OF HUMAN SLAVERY. THE PRACTICE OF HUMAN SLAVERY MUST BE STOPPED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE POLITICIANS WHO ENCOURAGE AND ENABLE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INTO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE THE TRAITORS AND THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS MEANS YOU,,,NANCY PELOSI,,,,AND HARRY REID,,,,AND THE SACK OF GARBAGE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.....PASS THE SAVE ACT AND MAKE E- VERIFY PERMANENT LAW----FOR STARTERS..... Posted by: T. Jamieson on May 13, 2008 01:34 PMI DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO SAY, WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON, WHEN OUR OWN COUNTRY CAN'T & WON'T DO THE JOB (GOVERNMENT). WHAT DOES CALDERON HAVE ON BUSH? THATS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. WHY DOES BUSH WANT TO GIVE 1 BILLION TO MEXICO, AND LOOK AT OUR OWN BACK YARD, THEY ARE MOVING FROM MEXICO, TO THE U.S. I AGREE TOTALLY TAKN I'd go one step further, arrest the company owners as you suggeted and also make them pay to deport the illegal workers and their families back to their mother countries; after-all, they kept them here "knowingly" and are the root cause of this depression wage mitigation slave trade mess our "unplanned growth economy quagmire" the politicians won't address [they want to brainlessly make it worse with even more American overpopualtion]. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 13, 2008 01:55 PMIT`S BECAUSE OF GREEDY COMPANIES LIKE THIS, WE HAVE THE ILLEGAL ALIEN PROBLEM WE HAVE... FINE AND JAIL THESE SCUMBAG EMPLOYERS, THEN THE ILLEGALS WON`T HAVE ANY JOBS TOO STEAL, AND THEN THEY`LL SELF DEPORT... ILLEGAL HIRING IS THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL THIS CHAOS, ALONG WITH THE PANDERING CORPORATE WHORE POLITICIANS, WHO ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS, TOO PLEASE THEIR CORPORATE PIMPS. ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT WORKS! Posted by: American Me on May 13, 2008 03:28 PMTag'em and Bag'em boys!!! Well done I.C.E.!!! Posted by: Edgar on May 13, 2008 03:29 PMIt’s common these days among the ignorant to think that the employers can be easily prosecuted. The fact is that employers are only required to complete and retain a form and to check documents. Said documents can be easily forged and are available on street corners in most major cities and in many small towns throughout America and are of sufficient quality to fool the naked eye. Employers are not required to check the validity of these documents, only to review them. An employer who completes and retains the required form is difficult to prosecute. The raids against Swift & Co and Pilgrims Pride didn’t net any high level people. When they nailed Walmart a few years ago it took court approved wire taps to get the evidence. Look who’s getting hauled off to jail, some scum bag subcontractor. It’s not that simple to prosecute the employers. People that think otherwise really need to be educated on this issue. Posted by: Ralph on May 13, 2008 03:50 PMEveryone is saying throw the book at them because of the illegals - and I fully agree with all that. Nobody mentioned in their posts about the meth lab. Will the owners be thrown the book or slapped on the wrist for having a meth lab on their company land? I want to see a criminal follow-up on one of these so we can see what, if anything, is being done to these employers. Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 13, 2008 04:21 PMkudos for ice. I hope they will come to Southern ID ad roundup a few thousand more. Posted by: ALOHA on May 13, 2008 06:14 PMOh God, Ralph is back... Posted by: takn on May 14, 2008 02:58 AMRalph does make a good point on this post. We need to close these loopholes that let employers get away with their criminal activity. Posted by: Dave A on May 14, 2008 09:17 AMRalph, you know full well that we are aware of the laws that make hiring illegal aliens so easy. You know that it is these laws we want to change. Saying we are ignorant of the laws we seek to change is really an avoidance response. Isn't that beneath you? Posted by: Bill Dexter on May 14, 2008 11:11 AMSoftwareengineer, I like your idea. Employers who get caught hiring illegal aliens should not only be heavily fined but also forced to pay the cost of deportation. Why should our tax dollars be used to pay for deportation when it's the employers greed that start this mess to begin with. Brian Posted by: Brian on May 14, 2008 01:06 PMit's seems like you people care more about illegal immigration than illegal drugs....meth kill the youth of this country...and all that under the cover of a Kosher meat packing plant(under religious supervision)....Are you all trying to cover the real crime here??? Posted by: Bill on May 14, 2008 02:01 PM[The source also reported that some employees were running a methamphetamine lab in the plant and were bringing weapons into the plant, which employs about 1,000. He said he was fired after he told his superiors.] I read this too Sick 'n Tired!! Whaaaattt!! Weapons and a meth lab?! ICE has enough to deport every ILLEGAL ALIEN just for being here illegally but the employers "have" to be arrested for the meth lab (unless it was dismantled beforehand). The fired employee has a hell of a lawsuit at the very least for his termination. He might be satisfied enough with the raid and knowing the Orthodox Jews won't pay top dollar for kosher/meth meat. Too bad we all can't learn if the listed grocers in our hometowns are buying from this company. Then again I never shop at any of the stores listed anyway. Posted by: United Statesian on May 14, 2008 04:14 PMBill, speak for yourself. Some of the members of the "we" that you refer to obviously haven't a clue about the immigration laws in this country. Posted by: Ralph on May 14, 2008 06:25 PMGood Job ICE. Taking 300 more criminal illegals immigrants off the street is a good thing. I hope the politicians in near by Wisconsin (my home state) are watching this and seeing that the legal citizens of Iowa do not want these criminal's in their state and neither do the citizens of Wisconsin. Trying to turn Wisconsin into a sanctuary state like you have been doing is the wrong thing for Wisconsin. Posted by: Brian H. on May 15, 2008 11:28 AMtell them how you feel BOYCOTT AGRIPROCESSOR PRODUCTS from Postville, IA!!!! Posted by: USA1 on May 15, 2008 05:36 PMTemporary Workers Denied Transportation IDs "A German graduate student in oceanography at M.I.T. applied Wow! Wait until the White House hears about this. They will clear up this nonsense right away. Can you imagine restricting access to ships and docks to those brilliant students who are studying here so they can be available to do work American Citizens won't do. Posted by: Jersey Joe on May 13, 2008 02:04 PMCOME ON, THERE'S A RECESSION GOING ON Why do we open jobs for any foreigner in America; until we're "full tax base" employed again? Perhaps we can keep the interest payments paid on the federal deficit if we do this first....I know, our tyranical elected leaders want to bankrupt our tax base with more uncontrolled foreign population growth, laundered money leaving the country and slave wages paying no taxes. That way, we'll all prosper [down the proverbial toilet that is]. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 13, 2008 02:23 PMSoftware, That's one thing I've never understood. By allowing this flood of illegal aliens and H1B Visa holders our government is causing a our wages to shrink which means less tax revenue collected then on top of all of that you have illegal aliens milk the system dry of our tax dollars by getting free health care, access to our schools and welfare. Brian Posted by: Brian on May 14, 2008 01:09 PMIf you don't like the service you recieved from our government? When you go home tell your friends, that way they won't want to come here. Posted by: Brian H. on May 15, 2008 12:12 PMYeah, why is Bush expanding the H1-B visa program? My guess is it because corporations want low-income workers. Posted by: Bob on May 16, 2008 01:07 PMUhm... Sorry...better safe than sorry and put Americans to work, since those jobs are supposedly union held and pay well! 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