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May 08, 2008


Hispanic Immigrants Not Happy With Provision to Favor Irish Illegal Aliens

"An effort by the Irish to secure a special immigration deal solely for illegal immigrants from Ireland isn't sitting well with some of their former partners in the fight for an overhaul of federal immigration policy. Although immigrant organizations officially have refrained from criticizing the Irish, many rank-and-file Hispanic immigrants — who say their families have been hit hardest by deportations — are saying they are shocked that the Irish are quietly working for a separate pact with federal officials," the New York Sun reports. "Irish leaders have defended their proposal for a separate pact by saying it would correct what they call historic inequities, referring in particular to a change in the law in 1965 that reduced the number of visas for the Irish as it opened up those available to immigrants from regions other than Europe." (Via Freedom Folks)

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Why not favor the Irish? After all, they speak english and are more highly educated than the [FAIR edit] crossing our southern border!

Posted by: Rick S on May 8, 2008 01:36 PM

Illegal means illegal. No special treatment for anyone. Period!

Enforce the existing laws NOW!

Posted by: melena29 on May 8, 2008 02:45 PM

Hilarious, two groups of skank illegals arguing over which one should have the right to ignore our laws.
Somehow, the fact that none of them should be allowed to stay here eludes them?
Wonder how they came to that conclusion?

Posted by: Bob Hubble on May 8, 2008 03:25 PM

WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DOESN`T ANYONE UNDERSTAND!

Posted by: American Me on May 8, 2008 03:41 PM

Bring in the Irish! At least they already know our language....

Posted by: CHogan on May 8, 2008 03:45 PM

Of course Irish have the right to be in this country than anyone else. About 50 million Americans are proud of their Irish heritage.

We effectively settled the Northeastern part of the country through sheer hard work and courage to face daunting challenges.

Legalize Irish first and then think about the Mexicans.

Posted by: proudirish on May 8, 2008 04:06 PM

Hispanics should really quit bitching. Isn't tens of millions more than a few thousand Irish? Not that illegal isn't illegal, but we really don't operate with logic on this issue, hence the nature of my comment.

Posted by: Bobby on May 8, 2008 04:39 PM

Did the Irish sneak across the Atlantic Ocean and illegally enter this country?

I didn't think so!

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 8, 2008 04:52 PM

proudirish, that is the truth. Although I am not Irish, it is a historical fact that the Irish were some of the hardest working folks that built up this nation. They did backbreaking work as farmers, bridge builders, road builders, skyscrapers,etc. etc. The only reason these pathetic politicians and other LAZY AMERICANS are always talking about hard working hispanics, to the exclusion of other groups that really built this nation, is because they are such low people character wise and have never done an ounce of real work in their lives and think pandering to hispanics is going to keep them on the gravy train. The stupidness of so many Americans in not seeing through this stuff,and firing these morons from their undeserved jobs amazes me to no end. Why are we so afraid of voting for people who are unpopular. Unpopular to whom should be the question? We will never, ever, get change supporting anyone, whom the Main Stream Media Supports.

Posted by: Bobby on May 8, 2008 05:40 PM

Illegal is illegal, but look at it this way. You don`t see many Irish gangs destroying neighborhoods, smuggling and selling drugs, robbing, killing and raping, or having anchor babies on the backs of American taxpayers, costing us billions!

Posted by: Independent Voter on May 8, 2008 06:25 PM

Chogan, proudirish, and Sick ‘n Tired, here’s the problem with your arguments:

#1 - There can be no exceptions for any reason. We either insist on total enforcement of current immigration law, or we disregard it altogether. Otherwise you are providing grounds for exceptions for everyone. There is simply no justification for exceptions to our laws.

#2 - This is a pet peeve of mine so grant me a bit of latitude here: Where ever your ancestors came from they made an extraordinary sacrifice in order to give you the gift of American citizenship. I choose to honor my great grandparents for their selfless gift by pledging my allegiance to this country and this country only. If you call yourself an American, you really need to drop the hyphen. It only serves to divide us, and as history has demonstrated time and time again, divided we will fall.

#3 - Whether they swam across an ocean, came in on a work visa and overstayed, or snuck across a wide open border, they are in violation of our immigration law and we cannot tolerate or make an exception for any reason (see #1).

P.S. I have the world’s most amazing grandson, whose paternal grandparents are of Irish descent. He will call himself an American.

Posted by: melena29 on May 9, 2008 08:34 AM

Three of my four great-grandparents came from Ireland (maternal side) during the potato famine, yet the Irish who are here now illegally should get in line - in Ireland - just like the rest of the world. And speaking of the rest of the world, we need a moratorium on ALL immigration until the last tsunami of humans (legal) can be assilimated. We keep taking them in, or allowing them to sneak in. We simply cannot sustain this massive influx. Food, water and all the natural resources are being used at an alarming rate. But the three pro-illegals running for the highest office in the land, will just about finish us off. It's insane for them not to discuss the ramifications of this invasion. When they speak of health, education and sustainable development, they need to state that all of these factors are impacted by illegal immigration.

Posted by: June on May 9, 2008 09:01 AM

I for one believe strongly that rather than an arbitrary age hurdle to determine the right to vote we ought to have a passing grade on an intelligence test as the determinant. Proudirish would undoubtedly fail such a test. The Irish have lots to recommend them however a claim that they are so special as to confer a right to not be held to the same rules and laws as apply to the rest of us is rock solid proof of idiocy.

Posted by: MARVIN WAGNER on May 9, 2008 09:42 AM

Here's a special deal for every criminal illegal
immigrant in this country. Go home to your own country and apply for U.S. citizenship. Jump through every hoop, pay every fee, and wait. If at the end of the process you are granted U.S. citizenship, you will have the special status of knowing that the American people welcome you to the U.S. and that you did it legally.

Posted by: Brian H. on May 9, 2008 09:54 AM

Thanks for that post Melena29. That's the best comment I have read here in a while.

Posted by: Dave A on May 9, 2008 10:06 AM

WHEN DID ANY TYPE OF ORGANISED CRIME IN AMERICA BECOME MOTHER TERESA?

I agree with Melena29 too. The Constitutional Laws on immigration aren't elite toilet paper to flush down their overpopulated American sewage disposal they created with too many recent immigrants, legal or illegal.

But make sure to recycle and buy flourescent bulbs.

Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 01:20 PM

Sorry, my Irish posters, but it was the ENGLISH settlers who explored, prospected, claimed, and settled North American lands. It was the ENGLISH settlers who formed the United States of America long before the Irish began coming here in large numbers.

The only reason many Irish immigrants were hired to build bridges, skyscrapers, etc. is because they were cheaper and more desperate than U.S. natives.

If you truly were proud Irishmen, you'd all go back to Ireland and kick out the third-world foreigners that are infesting your homeland.

BAN ST. PATRICK DAY!!

Posted by: Sonja on May 9, 2008 01:51 PM

Screw the Irish - they shouldn't get any special treatment just because they speak English. (I am at least 25% Irish, or so I am told, but I am 100% American and have no loyalty to any country or any people but my own!)

Posted by: Rex on May 9, 2008 01:57 PM

Proudirish, you are an idiot. I thought only the Hispanics were of the mindset, "I am [INSERT NATIONALITY OR ETHNICITY HERE], so therefore people of my same nationality/ethnicity should receive special treatment and be exempt from the law." I guess I was wrong.

To he11 with the Irish - they shouldn't get any special treatment just because they speak English. (I am at least 25% Irish, or so I am told, but I am 100% American and have no loyalty to any country or any people but my own!)

Posted by: Rex on May 9, 2008 02:18 PM

Let the Irish in!

They already speak ENGLISH!

They are easily assimilable!

The Irish have long, deep , roots in America!

I say; LET THE IRISH STAY!

Deport the mexicans!

AUDIOS!

Posted by: Red on May 9, 2008 02:51 PM

My ancestors came from Ireland too, and although you can make many arguments for Irish immigration - they are mostly single, educated, taxpaying, English speaking, and not using our schools and/or social services- illegal is still illegal.

I've looked at some of the blogs in Ireland, and many of the Irish people think illegal immigration is a slap in the face to the U.S. They are correct.

The upside of this is the rupturing of the illegal coalition, which weakens the power of these lobbying groups.

Posted by: hasslebc on May 9, 2008 05:43 PM

My ancestors came from Ireland, and although many arguments can be made for Irish immigration- they are mostly single, educated, English speakers who are not clogging our prisons or sapping our services- illegal is stil illegal. I've checked some Irish blogs, and the people in Ireland mostly oppose Irish illegal immigration, because it disrespects our laws. On the other hand, I'm happy to see different illegal lobbying groups at each other's throats.

Posted by: viva la migra on May 9, 2008 06:08 PM

I would be less opposed to grant special status for illegal aliens from a WASP-type country. But Ireland is mostly Catholic, and gained notoriety for staunch reluctance against birth control. Not that all Irish are of that kind, but excessive breeding will drag us all into poverty before long (just like it dragged Irland into poverty).

Also, growing influence of the Catholic Church in the U.S. may spell out trouble for all of us. After all, there were many good reasons why we did separate from the Rome's rule more than half millennium ago. There is no good reason to go back.

So, be careful what you wish for when you call for legalization of all Irish illegals.

Posted by: A Reader on May 11, 2008 12:19 PM

Immigrants of today should not be allowed to take credit for the efforts of immigrants of yesterday. I hate it when I hear the statement "immigrants built this country" or "this is a nation of immigrants". It doesn't mean that these are the people that deserve the credit for the work of other people. So what if this country is a nation of immigrants. Things are different now. We have less room and they are offering less skilled people. We provide more for our people now at our expense and it doesn't mean that we have to provide for illegals just because they want us to.

Besides, it isn't up to the hispanics to decide what we do for anyone in this country. They seem to forget that they don't run this place.

Posted by: joeyindc on May 12, 2008 06:22 AM

I disagree Sonja, and believe the record would prove me right. Yes, the English came first, but as far as hard workers, forget it, generally speaking they were lazy, LAZY, compared to the physical work done by the Irish, blacks, and Germans for instance. LAZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYY.

Posted by: Bobby on May 12, 2008 05:34 PM

GET A LIFE: WE ARE NOT PUTTING THE RED CARPET DOWN FOR ''ILLEGALS'' YOU JUST WALK IN AND THINK WE OWE YOU.

SO, GO HOME WITH THE PAPERS IN YOUR BACK
POCKET. FILL IT OUT AND WAIT. TO YOUR NAME IS CALLED.

ITS ALL BLACK AND WHITE, READ IT.

Posted by: SUSAN MARIANO on May 12, 2008 08:26 PM

This unwarranted allegiance to your ancestral homeland is exactly what I’m talking about. The last thing we want or need is this kind of divisive, counter productive backbiting. We are all of us, after all, Americans, aren't we? Let’s keep our eye on the ball, shall we?

Posted by: melena29 on May 13, 2008 11:29 AM

Now Bobby...the CHINESE made the Irish, the Blacks, and the Germans look like bums. Shouldn't we then legalize all the Chinamen? Go back to your whiskey, my friend.

Posted by: Sonja on May 15, 2008 01:43 AM
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Michelle Malkin: More Reasons for McCain to Avoid the La Raza Conference

Michelle Malkin gives more reasons for Sen. John McCain to avoid speaking at the La Raza convention in her latest entry. Among those reasons: "La Raza/The Race joined the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in a failed lawsuit attempt to prevent the feds from entering immigration information into a key national crime database–and to prevent local police officers from accessing the data; La Raza/The Race opposed the state of Oklahoma’s tough immigration enforcement-first laws, which cut off welfare to illegal aliens, put teeth in employer sanctions, and strengthened local-federal cooperation and information-sharing."

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Since illegal immigration is the #1 topic here in Texas, I just don't know who to vote for in November. I may just stay home as McAmnesty and Obama both want to give our country to illegal aliens!

Posted by: Rick S on May 8, 2008 01:31 PM

McCain should be smart and see through what La Raza actually is - a racist organization [FAIR edit].

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 8, 2008 02:48 PM

Don't do that, Rick. Go to the polls and vote for a third party candidate. It's much better than doing nothing.

Posted by: melena29 on May 8, 2008 02:48 PM

John McCain out on the straight talking Espanol panderfest campaign trail- pledging to continue Bush's pogrom of ridding America of middle working class Americans. McCain, Obama, and Clinton are competing to who gets to fire the starter's pistol to begin the global marathon of millions of third world peasants who will stampede to America in mass hordes and trample a once great 21st century nation beneath them,

Posted by: Future Day Laborer on May 8, 2008 02:57 PM

I think the McAmnesty label is appropriate but a little too direct. Let me propose something new and slightly more subtle: "Dogleg John". This would be after the A. Lincoln story about a dogs leg/tail (not-an-amnesty/amnesty), which of course is entirely fitting.

Posted by: James on May 8, 2008 03:01 PM

La Raza is a racist, fascist group that actually believes their own rhetoric! McCain, with his best puppy face on, stated that anything less than amnesty for the 20 million illegal alien criminals was, "inhumane and un-compassionate".
You could list a thousand reasons why any politician should stay away from La Raza but, being the political whore's that all of them are, listing them is just a waste of time.

Posted by: Bob Hubble on May 8, 2008 03:38 PM

JUAN McAMNESTY WILL SURRENDER THIS COUNTRY TO MEXICO, AND THE REST OF THE THIRD WORLD!

IT`LL BE BOOSH 3!

Posted by: American Me on May 8, 2008 03:39 PM

LaRaza is McAmnesty`s buddies. LaRaza (aka The Tan Klan) is the biggest racist, hispanic supremecy group in the country, and this clown is going too their anti-American meeting, to probably push his amnesty disaster once again. Juan "Mexico First" Hernandez, McCains new best buddy, probably put him up too it. McCain is a stubborn old man, who will never listen too the American people.

VOTE ANTI-INCUMBENT!

Posted by: Independent Voter on May 8, 2008 04:05 PM

If we all voted for the constitution party, couldn't we pull enough electoral votes away from both reps and dems to not let either get the required number of to win?

Posted by: jmac on May 8, 2008 08:25 PM

There are no canidates would vote for. I to will go vote for a 3rd party candidate. This ciuntry is going to end up being a third world coutry.

Posted by: ALOHA on May 8, 2008 08:40 PM

I hope that if McCain is treacherous enough to promise amnesty to all the illegals in this country if he is elected, even though he knows the people of the U.S. don't want this. That once he is elected president with the help of all the pro illegal groups votes. He is treacherous enough to then boot all the illegals out of this country against the wish's of the pro illegal groups that voted for him.

Posted by: Brian H. on May 9, 2008 10:14 AM

Sounds like we'll have to fight on for another four years and keep the pressure on the Senate and the House from passing an amnesty for illegal aliens.

This really shouldn't be our fight and I resent the hell out of McCain and the rest for having to fight it.


Remember, we stopped Bush and we can stop McCain or whoever gets into office by keeping the pressure on the Senate and House.

Brian

Posted by: Brian on May 9, 2008 10:39 AM

ANY OF THE ABOVE FOR PRESIDENT LOSES WHEN THEY WIN

Its slam dunk in my book, if you win the American Presidency next November, you'll be gone in one term. You'll be blamed for the horrifying chronic stagflation depression or severe recession we're in now, that's getting much worse and isn't going away either I predict, until America depopulates. This uncontrolled growth mess in America has been going on for decades...it just hit the fan really bad after 911.

Here's an essay on immigration, I helped my daughter write, enjoy:

Current Events and Politics
8 May 2008
Unit 5: Our Changing Nation Essay Assignment

The various websites I found for immigration are listed in my Works Cited and one of them is a useful neutral non-partisan discussion website (Messerli, Joe), albeit lacked recent immigration news issues that the mainstream media generally omits anyway. I went to the Numbers USA website (Comparison of Immigration Reform Proposals: SAVE Act (2007) vs. H.R. 4432 (2005)) to get the recent legislation scoop on immigration, as it’s the best source that I know about on recent government law actions in process.
The reliability of all my websites is they are all non-partisan and Numbers USA is non-profit too. The BalancedPolitics.org website (Messerli, Joe) source I used documents both “pros” and “cons” to maintaining/increasing immigration in America, so it’s appearance is trustworthy, but in my opinion, still lacks key details on the “con” side of the issue. The Numbers USA sources are obviously “con” websites only, but since mainstream media and alleged neutral immigration websites generally refuse to publicize recent bi-partisan government actions to limit immigration, I used them as a best/only sole source available. I added more references as I wrote the essay to back up my salient points too.
The differences of opinions on the subject of immigration are documented in some detail from the BalancedPolitics.org website. The “pro” side had much more details and emphasizes increasing diversity of ethnic groups and providing big business plenty of cheap labor, while offering amnesty as a way to eliminate the illegal alien counts. The “con” side description from this “alleged balanced website” of increasing/maintaining immigration did a poor job in my estimation, as they omitted the adherence to America’s Constitutional Immigration Laws by our employers as a key rationale (in my opinion, it is); irrespective, the website focused on drug elimination and wage depressions. It also omitted another key “con” argument, uncontrolled population growth (Messerli, Joe).
The Numbers USA website documents the Secure America with Verification Enforcement (SAVE) Act of 2007 (Comparison of Immigration Reform Proposals: SAVE Act (2007) vs. H.R. 4432 (2005)) hitting the Senate and the House for possible Discharge Petition; which has absolutely no amnesty provision and basically emphasizes border protection and employer enforcement only. It has clear and substantial bi-partisan support (The Campaign to Pass the SAVE Act), as its split between 162 Democrats and Republicans alike on support and petition signatures to date. Congressman Pelosi and Senator Reid are against the bill, but when it comes to immigration overpopulation they don’t listen to approximately 90% of the voters’ desire to trim growth from their neighborhoods’ roads, wetlands, parks and schools, as they apparently want to add to it and support more and more overpopulation amnesty. Then they want green house gas reduced too, with their magic wand.
The mainstream media usually weasel words pro-amnesty polls to say, “Do you support guest workers on farms”, to split the results, but you’ll never find an intelligent Zogby Poll that asks, “Do you support more growth in your neighborhoods”.
My take on immigration is very clear; we need a break from it. We have more important issues impacting our country like hyper-inflation destroying our economy due to uncontrolled growth. The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) documents 87% of the American environmental destruction overpopulation is legal/illegal immigrants and asserts the other 13% is the illegal anchor babies. The baby boomers are environmental kings and queens, as they kept population in America on a positive environmental decline, until greedy illegal businesses pushed unplanned growth and reversed their positive trends (Cleaning the Air on Immigration and the Environment). Yet we hear on mainstream media the horrors of the baby boomers for being infertile and not overpopulating America like good citizens increasing our carbon footprint, so we need illegal immigrants’ anchor babies to bring us back to utopia again. The brainlessness of this is not educated liberal in my book, as it’s clearly unplanned nonsense and the result in my opinion: the subprime banking mess, $4/gal gas, bridges collapsing and masses of unemployed kids with college degrees heading into this current American recession, etc, etc. It’s clear from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only about 20% of the growth in jobs requires a degree, yet, about 30% of American youth from age 21-30 have degrees (The 30 Occupations with the Largest Employment Growth, 2006-2016) and (Leaf, George).
In my book, the next President doesn’t win the election, he inherits this hopeless mess that took decades to create and will be serving one term too, especially if he/she doesn’t implement depopulation in immigration ASAP to head off possible stagflation depression. My generation is doomed too, if we don’t depopulate now.
Works Cited

“Cleaning the Air on Immigration and the Environment.” The Dan Stein Report. May 2008.
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“Comparison of Immigration Reform Proposals: SAVE Act (2007) vs. H.R. 4432 (2005).” Numbers USA.2008.
http://www.numbersusa.com/PDFs/SAVEvHR4437chart.pdf.
Leaf, George, “The US doesn’t need more College Grads.” The Christian Science Monitor. Sep 2006.
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Messerli, Joe. “Should America Maintain/Increase the Level of Legal Immigration.” BalancedPolitics.org. 2008.
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“The Campaign to Pass the SAVE Act.” Numbers USA.2008.
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“The 30 Occupations with the Largest Employment Growth, 2006-2016.” United States Department of Labor Bureau of Labor Statistics. Dec 2007.
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Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 01:07 PM

THE IMMIGRATION ESSAY ABOVE GOT A 100%

There is hope for our American teachers and schools, maybe FAIR and my daughter can brainwash them to our camp after-all....lol

Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 01:45 PM

TO SICK & TIRED: YOU ARE SO RIGHT, 100%

IS FOR THE V.O.T.E. THE COUNTRY HAS NO

B.A.L.L.S, TO EVEN STOP ILLEGLAS, DRUGS,

SOCIAL SERVICE, ETC AND WE PAY, THAT GETS

ME.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$SUSANM

Posted by: SUSAN MARIANO on May 9, 2008 04:17 PM

DON'T GIVE UP! BUSH WANTED SHAMNESTY AS WELL AND DIDN'T GET IT. THE NEXT PRESIDENT, OBAMA OR MCCAIN WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO PASS FEDERAL LAWS BUT THE STATES WILL TAKE OF IT. THE SANCTUARY CITIES WILL BECOME SO FLOODED WITH ILLEGALS, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL HAVE TO GIVE IN.

I AM VOTING 3RD PARTY!

Posted by: Jeff on May 10, 2008 01:17 PM
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10-year Old Idaho Girl Gives Birth; Illegal Immigrant Charged With Rape

"We broke the unbelievable story last night of a 10-year old girl in St. Anthony who gave birth to a baby. She's now one of the youngest kids in the country to become a mother. Residents both on and off camera were shocked and in dismay over the situation," says KIDK-TV in Idaho. "Lyle Rumsey: 'I don't think anything is wrong with our town. I just think something's wrong with that person.' That person is this man, 37-year old Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez. Juarez is actually an illegal immigrant, and is now behind bars in the Fremont County Jail on other rape charges. Since we broke this story exclusively yesterday, we've been checking with sources throughout the North Valley for more information. The criminal complaint against Gutierrez-Juarez says the rape of the 10-year old happened between November and January."

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JORGE BOOSH`S GOOD HEARTED FOLKS...

FAMILY VALUES DON`T STOP AT THE RIO GRANDE...

DOING THE RAPES, AMERICANS WON`T DO...

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!

Posted by: American Me on May 8, 2008 03:44 PM

I really don't know what to say except that when this stuff happens and Americans are surprised, they should ask themselves why the so-called leaders in this nation simply allow any drunken bum to come stumbling across the borders of this nation without giving a cr-p as to the mayhme they might commit.

Posted by: Bobby on May 8, 2008 04:28 PM

I m frm Idaho and this tory mademe sick to my stomach. My grandaughter i 11 and I can't imagine anything like thathappening to her. I can think of punishment but don't think the judicial system will go along with it.

Posted by: ALOHA on May 8, 2008 04:56 PM

And you wanna know what is just as sick in all of this? There are people out there that DEFEND this kind of behavior. Whether is was an illegal alien or not.


GOD is getting very angry with this country right now.

Posted by: press2_4english on May 8, 2008 10:31 PM

[FAIR edit: The figure isn't 1 million a year, if the study you are referring to is the one by Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, Ph.D. Violent Crimes Institute, Atlanta, Georgia. Her estimate was about 1 million crimes over a 7 year period, not over one year.] At some point, we have to realize that our year will come up and we will be the next victims. I find this one of the prime reasons we should not be giving a blanket amnesty to a group of law breakers. We don't know what each and every individual has done in this nation since they broke into our country. We have immigration laws on the books that need to be followed and pretending these are good people is ridiculous. There is little evidence to show they are good people and lots of evidence to show they will continue to defy our laws. This loser is a pedaphile and a dangerous sexual predator. He needs to go to jail and never be let out and his nation of origin needs to foot all the bills his behavior has caused. Her childhood has been taken from her by someone who should not be allowed to breath our air. Her innocence can never be given back to her. It is beyond shameful.

Posted by: jaded on May 8, 2008 11:20 PM

Am I the only one who thinks the death penalty should apply here?

If this was my child that piece of garbage wouldn't be walking upright anymore.

To make matters worse, I'm sure someone in the MSM will try to say that the illegal alien is just a poor misunderstood immigrant.

Brian

Posted by: Brian on May 9, 2008 10:47 AM

This is a disgrace. The bleeding heart liberals will blame it on society. The corporate whore politicians are just as much to blame, as this piece of garbage illegal alien rapist.

Posted by: Independent Voter on May 9, 2008 11:48 AM

This is a outrage! Death penalty? Sure!

Does any one think that the opener border crazies care? The crazies just want American taxpayers to keep providing free vision care, free dental care, free health care, free food stamps, free educations, housing assistance, etc.

Posted by: Rick S on May 9, 2008 01:01 PM

EVEN THE RECENT MORMAN NEWS STORY ON KIDS SEEMS TOTALLY INNOCUOUS COMPARED TO THIS ONE

But you'll never see anything like this on the news or mainstream media. Those blatant liars cover up the important truth on immigration problems.

Thank God for FAIR.

Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 01:25 PM

I am an OBGYN and America better wake the heck up and soon. The disgusting behavior of some illegals coming to this country is astounding. You can get mad at me all you want, but many of their behaviours would make a whore look like a saint.

Posted by: Kim on May 10, 2008 10:48 AM

Have you noticed the almost complete lack of news concerning this atrocity on any of the major news outlets? There is an average of 8 child molestation per week by illegal aliens. There are 13 American killed weekly by illegal aliens drunk-drivers, and 12 innocent American murdered weekly by illegal alien scum. There have been more American killed by illegal aliens since 9/11 than soldiers killed in Iraq.
We don't have to wait for the terrorist to attack, their already here and killing on a massive scale.

Posted by: Bob Hubble on May 10, 2008 09:51 PM

This case is very indicative of what's going on. Most of "Latinos" are volume baby makers (dedicated breeders, if you will) that will not miss a single oportunity to procreate.

Mexico, altuogh decidedly the most affluent country in Latin America, is already falling into poverty due to exorbitant fertility rate of "Latinos" that no economy, not even the U.S. economy, can keep pace with for too long.

It will help us understand the root cause of many serious problems that America is facing these days if we recognized "Latinos" for what they are: a model Malthusian population that will quickly translate any increase in their living standards onto accelerated population growth that, in turn, will drag us all into poverty.

Posted by: A Reader on May 11, 2008 12:26 PM

I have long contended that any crime against a child should have the possibility of the death penalty attached to it...This POS doesn't deserve anything from us, especially the legal help and care we will all be "taxed" with.

Posted by: takn on May 12, 2008 01:51 PM

A Reader, yep.

Posted by: Bobby on May 12, 2008 05:36 PM
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Court Case Seeks to Broaden Asylum for Chinese Affected by One-Child Policy

"Partners of Chinese women who were forced to have abortions are pressing the Supreme Court to make it easier to get asylum in the United States. The Bush administration is resisting the male partners' efforts to get asylum, even though the Republican congressman who wrote a 1996 asylum law said it was intended to cover men as well as women who are victims of China's controversial family planning policy. There is no dispute that women can seek asylum under the law," the Washington Post reports. "U.S. courts have taken varying approaches to claims by Chinese men that they should be allowed to stay in the United States because they have suffered under a policy that generally limits couples to one child."

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China's policy is an overpopulation issue, not a human right's issue. If you know you can only have one child, practice birth control. I may sound a bit hard-hearted right now, but isn't what they are really asking for is to come here and have larger families which will overpopulate the U.S.?

Posted by: melena29 on May 8, 2008 02:51 PM

As I recall, our aslym policy resulting from Chinese birth regulation was initiated by the Republicans. I wonder what they would have done if it were Mexico instead of China.

Posted by: James on May 8, 2008 03:03 PM

GEE, LET`S HAVE EVEN MORE OVERPOPULATION!

Posted by: American Me on May 8, 2008 03:46 PM

melena29 is right on the mark. And it's not hard hearted, its called being responsible. Victims? Asylum? I don't think so. Creating more overpopulation will make victims of every one else in whichever country they inflict themselves upon. And if irresponsibly creating more children is their primary objective, then there are plenty of places to do it besides America. We aren't obliged to provide our home as the worlds incubator of more global poverty. It would be reckless and irresponsible policy to permit such a catastrophe to be inflicted upon our own citizens, or to the rest of the world. Deny their applications a hundred times over.

Where the heck is that wall?

Posted by: jeebie on May 8, 2008 05:02 PM

Just what we need is for China to export it's overpopulation problem to the US. Does the US really want to be the dumping ground for every country with an overpopulation problem?

Posted by: HAD IT on May 8, 2008 06:25 PM

Ditto melena29 and jeebie. I'm sick and tired of everywhere else's problems being America's responsibility. And I'm sick and tired of American taxpayers, who responsibly limit their family to a size they can financially support, having to subsidize other irresponsible people's incessant breeding.

Posted by: D on May 8, 2008 07:17 PM

The Chinese are seeking political asylum so they can come to the U.S. and have as large of family as they like. It seems to me that the only Chinese women that could show they are truly victims of this Chinese law are the women that were forced to be sterilized by the Chinese Government. This being the case the only Chinese women that should be considered for political asylum in the U.S. would have to be sterile.

Posted by: Brian H. on May 9, 2008 10:32 AM

China's population control is the best thing that human beings have done for the biosphere since we first rubbed two sticks together. What might be confusing American lawmakers who think the Chinese women are 'victims' of the policy is that you have never seen a policy that actually identifies a real problem and effectively corrects it.

Posted by: Bill Dexter on May 9, 2008 11:47 AM

AMERICA:

THE WORLDS DUMPING GROUND FOR ALL THEIR PROBLEMS!

Posted by: Independent Voter on May 9, 2008 11:52 AM

WE GIVE THEM ALL OUR SECRETS ANYWAY

Their aerospace engineers get secret clearances in teh America, then later, ship boxes of our proprietary secrets to China and our over-crowded local universities train them to make lasers to shoot our sattelites down....we might as well take their excess population in too.

Maybe they'll lend us a bit more money to keep us buying more of their stuff a few weeks longer?

Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 01:32 PM

Great!! Now the Chinese will ensure their spies are sent to America under the guise that the Chinese Government will abort the family's second or third child. Oh no, we're not spies, just a simple pregnant couple trying to avert China's abortion policies. China checkmates America again!

By the way, how many African women who faced mutilation of their lower body parts were flown to America? Many of them died in that ghastly government sanctioned procedure. Oh yeah, the number was 0.0!!

Posted by: United Statesian on May 9, 2008 05:13 PM

I am so sick of the liberal courts in this nation, pandering and catering and advocating for every group in the world on every conceivable issue, while totally IGNORING the effect their treasonous actions have on the AMERICAN CITIZENRY. MOST OF THESE JUDGES ARE VIOLATING THEIR OATHS OF OFFICE WHEN ILLEGAL ALIENS COME BEFORE THEM FOR WHATEVER CRIME THEY COMMITTED AND THEY DON'T IMMEDIATELY CALL I.C.E. TO HAVE THEM DEPORTED. THESE OFFICERS OF THE LAW ARE EXHIBITING CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR EVERY SINGLE DAY ACROSS THIS NATION. THEY NEVER SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM PROSECUTING AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR THE SLIGHTEST INFRACTION. WE DON'T NEED CHINESE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHILDREN IN CHINA. GOD HELP THIS NATION!!!!!!!

Posted by: Bobby on May 10, 2008 03:09 AM
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Raid Catches 33 Illegal Workers At Federal Courthouse

"Federal immigration agents raided the construction site of a new federal courthouse in Richmond on Monday, arresting 33 workers on charges of violating federal immigration laws and being in the United States illegally, officials said yesterday. Ernestine Fobbs, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, said the 29 men and four women who were arrested were from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua and Peru. All were found to lack documents that would allow them to live or work in the United States, Fobbs said," the Washington Post reports. "According to radio reports, federal agents and Virginia State Police officers surrounded the work site about 8 a.m. and rounded up about 50 workers while others attempted to hide inside the half-built complex. The reports said that officials were still searching the site hours later and that the remaining workers were required to wear wristbands showing that their IDs had been found valid."

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. . . and the contractor who hired them? What will happen to them? They should pay back and forefeit ALL funds paid to them for illegally hiring work via a federal contract.

THE BUCK HAS TO STOP SOMEWHERE AND WHY NOT WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOWERING THE BOOM ON EMPLOYERS ILLEGALLY HIRING WORKERS.

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 8, 2008 02:46 PM

I never hear much about the employers fines and jail sentences.

Posted by: Steve on May 8, 2008 03:05 PM

I can tell you this they will all be back to work in a week. GOOD LUCK ICE you will need it. Hast lavista baby

Posted by: Red hot chile pepper on May 8, 2008 03:29 PM

FROM THE ARTICLE:
Aaron Samsel, a representative of the Virginia Immigrant People's Coalition in Richmond, said his organization and others would be available to assist relatives and friends of the arrested workers . . .

MY COMMENT:
Maybe they can assist the relatives out of the country, too!

FROM THE ARTICLE:
The raid was the third roundup of illegal immigrant workers in Virginia in the past two months. On April 8, federal agents arrested 59 Hispanic workers at the Lansdowne Resort in Loudoun County on charges of immigration violations and said most would be deported. In March, immigration officials arrested 43 Latin American immigrants at a construction site in Manassas.

MY COMMENT:
OK . . . and what was the result?

Did the employers get fined? Jail? Excluded from further contracts? Slap on the wrist? Verbal counseling? Anything?

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on May 8, 2008 04:50 PM

GREAT NEWS!

12 MILLION MORE TOO GO!

Posted by: American Me on May 8, 2008 06:25 PM

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ALL ANYONE WANTS NOW IS MORE, & MORE MONEY UNDER THERE BEDS, BECAUSE THE DON'T CARE ABOUT THERE OWN AMERICAN FAMILY, AND ''THE UNITED STATES. ITS MONEY.


SUSANM

Posted by: SUSAN MARIANO on May 9, 2008 12:15 AM

Beside the fact that there is no mention of employers being fined or punished for hiring illegals. It's good to see that the Common Wealth of Virginia is trying to reduce it's criminal illegal immigrant population.

Posted by: Brian H. on May 9, 2008 10:39 AM

THE SYMBOLLISM IN THIS STORY IS HORRIFYING

A local government is contracting out to an organised crime contractor to build a court house. Next, they'll be using the Mafia sweat shops to print Constitutional Law library supplies.

Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 9, 2008 12:56 PM

GREAT NEWS!

ONLY 12 MILLION MORE TOO GO!

Posted by: American Me on May 9, 2008 01:17 PM

Thanks for the laugh Softwarengineer! Though I'm not sure if the tears I wiped away were from laughing or the misery of what has taken place in our country.

Posted by: United Statesian on May 9, 2008 05:38 PM

It's not that hard to stop this. If ICE busts 20 businesses a day with 330 workers, multiplied by each State, they would deport 330,000 illegals a day in the country. It wouldn't take long to drain the swamp.

Posted by: viva la migra on May 9, 2008 05:53 PM

So I guess they were doing jobs no American would do. These people need to get out of our country.

Posted by: Kim on May 10, 2008 10:34 AM

Red hot chile pepper, were you the guy/women who said you were harboring illegal aliens in your house. If you were than you may one day be the one "sneaking back in."

Posted by: Bobby on May 10, 2008 05:15 PM

I think that it is really bad that the company who was hired to do the work on the courthouse got the job and had the balls to hire illegal aliens who would be getting paid with tax payer money. They probably underbid many other contractors who do things legally and take out taxes and pay benefits to their workers. What message does this send to other companies initially other than if you play by the rules, you are out of the game. I am glad that they got busted, now they should fine the employers and take their contract away and give it to someone who does things the right way. The company should also be barred from doing anymore jobs for the government. They should be investigated for their practice of hiring illegals and see if they were paying their fareshare. If not, then they should be forced to pay it now. They should see if there has been any workplace injuries of their workers, tally the costs for medical care, unemployment, EMTs who would have responded at the cost of the taxpayers, etc, and charge them for that as well.

They should also investigate the addresses of the illegals and see if they are paying rent to a landlord who may not be claiming that as income. They should also check the information given to the employers to see if there has been an ID stolen from someone else. Then there should be arrests made for any infractions made by any of these people involved.

Posted by: joeyindc on May 12, 2008 06:06 AM
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