In any language...our president needs to say NO !!!

It is beyond my mentality understand why the
american public doesn't select congressmen and, A
president who can look beyond giving this country
away. On the other side of the coin is some other
Statesmen, if I may who are in State governments and
are doing a splendid job, for their states, hopefully this may filter up.

Can we double or triple that number of deportations please?

Let's not address in a multilateral way but a UNILATERAL way and that is to take away the magnet that attracts them here, disallow benefits at taxpayer expense and force them to return to their home countries.

IT IS JUST UNBELIEVABLE HOW ANYONE AND EVERYONE STICKS THEIR NOSES IN OUR BUSINESS, AND TRIES TO DICTATE WHAT WE SHOULD DO ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS, AND ONCE AGAIN OUR USELESS, SPINELESS, PC INFESTED POLITICIANS WON`T TELL THEM TO MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

IS THAT ALL THEIR PRESIDENTS DOWN SOUTH DO?

Ask America for more handouts. Get a life.

Thanks so much Mr. Colom for that little group of people trying to broaden their economic horizons known as MS-13!
Why would we want to deal with illegal alien immigration in a multilateral way, and only dealing with regional governments? This sounds like you would like to deal with a fragmented group rather than a solid front more inclined to tell you to, "get real"!
What the hell does, "great sacrifice", supposed to mean? The only sacrifice I see is, Americans loosing their jobs to these parasites! When 12-13% of any countries economy is based on stealing billions from the United States, they have lost any right to say or ask for anything!!

Isn't it a shame that we have a President who can't say no to an illegal alien? First the Mexicans, then the Irish and now the Guatemalans.Just step right up the rest of you out there who want the American Dream. We hand it out for free. Want citizenship? Just have your mama step across our border, produce YOU and you've got it. Want free education and medication? Okay. Want a job? Any greedy business will be glad to replace an American with you. Want a house? A bank account? Any mortgage company or bank will accommodate you. Just march, wave your native flag and you're in! Welcome to the newest third world country. You didn't leave home, you brought it with you!

Welcome to the "North American Union" where presidents of other countries in the Americas are no more than "governors" and Mr. Bush is the "real" president. As George W.'s father planned it we are in the "New World Order". Other leaders must come to the United States to plead with their superior/boss (G.W.) to let their constituents remain in the USA. George Walker Bush, President of the Americas!

Well said June !

Jorge Bush wants to give them BILLIONS and yet we haven't got enough to build the fence???Blow it out your hole BUSH!!! You are a traitor and a liar, may all you have done to the US come back to you in SPADES!!!

I'm just sick of them all!!!!! Trying to import their dysfunctional people here because they are so incompetent! Of course, what choice do we have in November?????? Just a sorry, sorry situation!

NO,no, the article has it all wrong. Bush lobbied for Guatamalan Amnesty. You have to admit, it isn't farfetched with Mr. New World Order.

Colom and other world leaders need to take care of their own people, instead of coming here and telling us what we should do for them. Get out of here and go home and take your people with you!

Surprised? I'm not...
The only thing I don't understand is how the good people of Arizona keep her in office...
She's worthless and undermining the citizenry!

SANCTUARY STATE GOVERNORS

I suggested impeaching sanctuary mayors for misuse of government funds for illegal marches. How about impeach all sanctuary state governors for clearly not enforcing our federal/state immigration laws?

Can you imagine if, say, drunk driving advocates got together to urge a Governor to veto a drunk driving bill? Would the press 'report' that they were concerned about sober drivers being profiled?

If this sounds silly, then think for a minute - EVERY,EVERY SINGLE TIME 'latino' activists advocate no immigration enforcement, the press includes this lie that they are concerned about 'legal' immigrants being 'profiled'. We are to believe that if legal immigrants are at risk of being asked their status, then we must therefore abandon all enforcement.

Well, lets apply this to drunk driving. Can we also assume that if sober drivers are at risk of being stopped and questioned about their blood alcohol level, then we must therefore abandon all enforcement?

Would the press 'report' such a concern? No? This is the same lying press that will 'report' on the May Day rallies.

Bloggers:

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I used to live in Lake Havasu City Az. It seemed that every other week they were trying to recall the Mayor. Why don't the good legal citizens of Arizona take a shot at bouncing their Govenor out on her ear. If accomplished it would send a clear message to every other pro illegal govenor in this nation that they are responsible to the citizens of their state who elected them. It might also change a few presidential candidates attitudes also.

The Federal Government should withhold ALL federal funds from the State of Arizona since they are directly and willfully disobeying federal immigration laws by impeding federal authorities from actively doing their jobs. . . along with aiding and abetting criminal activity. Maybe the RICO ACT should be invoked.

Another Democratic governor who will not enforce the will of the voters. She cares more about illegal aliens than she does about the citizens of Arizona!

I doubt this women will be returned to office. She is woefully unqualified for the job. It would be interesting to see where her biggest contributions are coming from.

How many times do people need to fooled? How many times has Napolitano slapped those who voted her in? By the way, Arizonans are also overlooking Giffords. She is helping to ruin you to. Just being a Democrat, practically assures one that she is in line with Napolitano.

McAmnesty will rely on Napolitano, Richardson, Perry and Schwarzenegger, the no-borders, chamber of commerce governors, to certify the border as secure before he opens the floodgates. Wow. That is so reassuring. And Chertoff is building a fence, somewhere, in his own mind.

One million asking for amnesty in 1986 resulted in 20 million making demands for it today. If the error is repeated, it will become 100 million the day after that. That next wave will demand nothing. They will take it. Americans will be the ones begging for amnesty.

MY Dear next door neighbors in Arizona,

Its time to do a RECALL on this gal gov. Her sympathy lies with the law breakers and big business pals and not the great common sense of the Arizonan citizens. Recall! RECALL!! RECALL!!! Get it together. I Nominate J D Hayworth. You got any other names?

WHEN WILL THE VOTERS OF AZ THROW THESE ILLEGAL ALIEN LOVING GOV OUT OF OFFICE, ALONG WITH THE MAYOR OF PHOENIX!

This is the kind of Governor, if not specifically one of the Governors, that McCain's alleged "border enforcement" "plans" will rely on to "declare the border is secure" (BEFORE...[fill-in the blanks, becuase McCain avoids stating the rest of that thought]).

A bleak forecast, to state the obvious, for actual border security as also national security.

Ifanyone gets stopped fora traffic violatin and get ask fo theirlicense, proof of insuance, and registration. Iguess Ihave been profiled a couple of times. Coe n Govenor do your job and consider the people of Arizona.

I have been profiled. I got askfor my license my registtratin ad proof of insurance. Only going over the speed limit a couple of miles. Arizona show tis Governor the door and don't let it hit her in the a--on the way out.

AMERICAN PEOPLE, CALL YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESANTATIVES AND TELL THEM TO OPPOSE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS, ANDY BENEFITS!!!!!!
NO AMNESTY-NO ILLEGALS! NO ILLEGALS- AMERICA IS A SAFE COUNTRY AGAINST DRUG-SMUGLERS, GANGS AND OTHER CRIMINALS!!!!

AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO NOT LET ILLEGALS TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY!!!!EITHER YOU OR ILLEGALS--- CHOOSE!!!

Nothing this worthless female does surprises me anymore. Vote for a liberal and everyone is a victim except for US citizens, who will have to pay for these victims forever and ever--AMEN! It seems to me that one just has to look at what that entire politcal party wants to do, when they don't care about the citizens of this nation and want to continue to reward international criminals. They know what Americans want, as we continue to fight every amnesty that comes up, yet they refuse to listen to us. How does one vote over and over again for people who don't give a rip about this country, who want illegals here because they will be voters for Democrats and who don't seem to understand that the government doesn't have money unless it comes from taxes. Isn't this classical taxation without representation when what the majority of US citizens want is not listened to? Also, hispanic is not a race--it's an ethnic class and if one doesn't want to be profiled then leave my nation and go back to your own. Illegals have no honor in themselves, no integrity and no business being here marching in our streets demanding anything. We need them out of here and we need to follow the immigration laws that are on the books. Deportation of millions will occur, even if they do it themselves, if we administer the laws. Law enforcement agents, including the politiicans, who seem so at ease ignoring their sworn duties, make me sick and they also need to go. If they are too cowardly to do their jobs, there are certainly others who will. Illegals can march all they want, but I guess their memory is short lived as the last time they did this the backlash against them increased. It will increase again and the outrage will just make them cry victim yet again. Isn't being a liberal something--behave badly, then cry victim, behave even worse and cry victim, behave the same way yet again and cry victim. Boring beyond belief! I wonder why they don't want to move up the evolutionary food chain, go back to the country and "improve" things there.

We should have known. Why, oh why, do the people of AZ keep her in office? Must be a lot of illegals tipping the polls. Get rid of her and them.

I honesty hope you folks in Arizona don't believe Giffords is any different from Napolitano. Pleas, we have got to wake up to these treacherous people.

And where will DHS and ICE be?

They should be waiting w/ buses at the ready...
Load em up, move em out!

I'm sick of criminals being allowed to parade their crimes and not be held accountable !!!

I can't wait to see the spin on this.

AND SANCTUARY CITY MAYORS WILL BE USING OFFICIAL TIME AND OUR MONEY TO FUND THE MARCHES, LIKE BEFORE?

We need a lawsuit to hit the courts against this blatant misuse of local government monies for police protection, santation cleanup, politician's salaries, etc, etc..

Perhaps we really need to see all the sanctuary mayors get impeached for this blatant anarchy and government waste.

I WILL BE THERE WITH MY ILLEGAL WIFE AND MANY OF OUR ILLEGAL FRIENDS. ICE AND THE POLICE CAN DO NOTHING TO STOP US WHAT A JOKE AMERICA IS BUT WE STILL LOVE THIS COUNTRY. BECAUSE IT IS BETTER FROM WHERE WE CAME. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ARNALD SWATZNIGER.

This is absolutely ludicrous!! Can American citizens march in any country to demand rights?? As they march, they should be placed on buses and driven back to Mexico. These are criminals, folks. They are causing our tax money to be spent on their healthcare, their education and their incarcerations to the tune of billions of dollars. Those who work here for employers who should be fined send their money back to Mexico, again to the tune of billions of dollars. Where is justice for American citizens and those who are LEGAL immigrants? Their answer to these DEMANDS should be an emphatic NO WAY!!!

The last I knew the only right criminal illegal immigrants have in this country is to leave before being arrested and deported. DHS and ICE should be all over these rallies making arrests but they won't for fear of upsetting the Status Quo in Washington. Maybe its time for the legal citizens of this country to make our own arrests and deportations. Then watch how fast they would have bus's and police to arrest us for protecting our country from criminal illegal immigrants and making our streets safer for our children.

I hope ICE is gassing up the buses and bring in additional agents to make massive arrests.

Softwareengineer is right. We need to report the fraud, waste and abuse to the United States Government - not that they would likely do anything but if we were to open the floodgates maybe they might take some notice.

Here is the link:

http://www.gao.gov/fraudnet/fraudnet.htm

so everyone needs to send them an e-mail about what the fraud, waste and abuse is in their locale.

When did May 1st become "Illegal Immigrant Protest Day" What makes these people think we owe them anything? Haven't they bleed this country dry enough ? Free food, medical, education, U.S. jobs and money! Their familes south of the border are living off of us too !
I am waiting for America to push and protest back! I live in Los Angeles, we are trying to get "Jamiel's law" ( Jamiel is the high school student that was gunned down by an illegal alien on his way home from the mall last month) passed, and do away with Special Order 40, which prohibits the police from asking the status of criminals. We have had enough here. I have written our Mayor, Governor, Senators, and today filed a complaint against our Police Chief. Hopefully others will follow. Flood the telephones ! Send faxes and e-mails. Protesting the march, Special Order 40, and support for Jamiel's law ! Write to Chief Bratton @ Parker Center 150 N. Los Angeles Street, L.A., CA 90012 Or (213) 473-5151 to lodge a formal complaint.

WHO CARES!

ALL THE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL DO IS OUTRAGE MORE AMERICANS THEN THEY ALREADY DO...

JUST GOES TOO SHOW HOW STUPID THESE PEOPLE REALLY ARE...

THEY CONTINUE TO BEAT A DEAD ISSUE, THERE WILL NEVER BE AMNESTY, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR PROPAGANDA IS THIS TIME...

Chimichanga and his illegal wife should enjoy it while they can. Wave those flags on Mayday. SCOTUS just put an end to illegal voting. Deportation Si Se Puede.

"Latinos/Hispanics" and the groups that define themselves as such (LaRaza, etc.) are ethnic-supremacists. They are convinced that because of their DNA, they are entitled to special rights or some sort of "rights classification" that is due a specialized series of operations in the U.S.A. BASED UPON THEIR DNA.

That is the "classic" definition of an ethnic supremacy organization in the works, what it means to be such in application and process and use of our government to further "special" or extraneous considerations for and about an ethnicity and nothing else than ethnicity.

"Latino/Hispanic" is not a race, it's not even an ethnicity specificaly as such are defined. The races among the human species are: White, Negorid, Asian and Aborigine. So, "Hispanics/Latinos" claiming all this specialized attention and privilege due to their alleged "race" is nonsense, and I doubt that it is even credible enough to pass any trial process in any court of law, as to burden of proof (just try "proving" a distinct "race" privileged to specialized "rights" due to one having had an ancestor from Asia, Spain, the Caribbean and Central America at various times in one's ancestry).

IF this nonsense continues -- Hispanics/Latinos threaten at every opportunity and Season in the U.S. to do harms to someone and anyone (someone will suffer negative consequences if this charade of "rights" and specialized privileges is not supported, funded, publicized, otherwise granted ongoing indulgence despite it being an irrational AND an illigitimate one) -- then the entire consideration in our nation as to "rights" is just reduced to drivel.

There are "human rights" as to civilizations of human beings the world over -- what it means to be civilized and behave accordingly and what it means not to do either or both -- and then there are "civil rights" in the U.S. as a Constitutional (and therefore, a governmental and legitimate concern under the rule of law) THAT APPLY TO CITIZENS, TO ALL CITIZENS of the U.S. and not to only one "color" or another, but to all citizens.

The Civil Rights issue does not extend globally to all human beings simply because our Constitution does not do so -- it's not a document that rules the world, it's a defining document that establishes and addresses our nation and what it is and is not, and in that nation, as to ciitzens and everything else from the top on down.

But it does not extend to Mexico, to citizens of Mexico, it does not reach into Guatemala and declare an individual there as being endowed with "rights" in the U.S.A. parallel with citizens in the U.S.A.

So this entire "Hispanic/Latino" (people who define themselves by a very vague reference to their DNA, to ancestors and cultures mostly of the Central and South American nations -- it is a very rare thing that a citizen of Spain in Spain or Europe goes around claiming to be "Latino" or even "Hispanic") is A CULTURAL MANIPULATION OF TERMS and it is furthered and popularized becuuse the goals are to establish FALSE "RIGHTS" by exaggeration and falsification of our terms under the Constitution.

Our Civil Rights in this nation define what cannot be done to and about an individual (a citizen can't be denied housing, for example, because of race or awarded housing because of race - "race" being not a ticket to be evaluated for gain or denial, in other words). They don't, to my understanding, "award" "special goods and services" to people just because a great-great-great-grandfather from Spain married the descendant in Nicauragua of Asian immigrants from centuries earlier.

What Hispanic/Latino "rights" afficiondos seek is some sort of "I deserve or merit to receive a special circumstance because of my name, my ancestors, my SOCIAL STANDING OR PRIVILEGE." It's an antiquated form of "award" or demand for provision from the general taxpayers and nation just like the feudal system was in "Olde Europe": a son is due something just because of who is father was, and on and on, while those outside that "privilege" feudal system were denied the same receipt of whatever (goods, money, privilege, social standing, exemptions from penalties, etc.).

I've posed these confronting questions before on other sites and no one has yet (ever) come forth with any reasonable definition nor "excuse" as to why "Hispanic/Latino" afficiondos/affiliates (they define as such, are participants in this socio-political movement) are due anything, anything at all, that individual ciitzens of the U.S. are not already eligible for. In other words, where is the specialized edge or privilege just by nature of someone having had certain ancestors?

If we as a nation are going to develope and recognize specialized rights and privileges for "Hispanic/Latino" people, as they claim to be, then we will also need to start rewarding the same things to "Anglo Saxons" and "Bavarians" and "Northern Italians" and the Hunans and Schezuans and whatnot else. They're as "eligible" under "ethnicity" claims as any "Hispanic/Latino" is.

The issue is citizenship. If you're a U.S. citizen, you're already receiving all the "rights" other citizens are. When you're denied these civil rights, you can bring legal claims against the perpetrator or try to. That's about it. You don't get a free house, free identities, free healthcare, free educations, free conferences with governors, free lunches in Congress, free anything, just because your ancestor was a Grand Poobah of some tribe somewhere.

Sorry, typo (^^): "Negroid" not "Negorid".

Lets hope the national media doesnot cover their march. If he do ot gt meia coverage that should put a leak n their boat. Come onAmerians lets start protesing for our rights.

More of the Californias citizens taxpayer money right down the drain. The brave new world of Mexico--in California. What state will be next?? What politician will win the next academy award for enabling Mexico to overrun the United States? Why are there 49 Mexican embassies in the U.S. gain ? I keep asking this question, but no one seems to be able to answer it. Cloak and dagger type stuff, isn't it?

How come when polygamist's familes are broken up, we charitably realize that these are the just consequences of knowingly breaking the law. But when famlies of illegal alieans are "traumatized" when asked to get right with the law, all of the sudden the law is cruel and noncaring?

COMMENT: THIS S.H.I.T HAS TO STOP, "DEMAND"

I'M 62YRS OLD AND ALL I GOT TO SAY IS F#@!
THE WHOLE BUNCH..ASSHOLES.

SUSANM

COMMENT: WHERE IS MY COMMENT: TO SICK & TIRED. I'M SO FEED UP WHIT THIS BULL, AND I HOPE THE GET A CARRIED AWAY IN L.A, REAL CARRIED AWAY, THEN PEOPLE WILL KNOW THAT
IT HAPPENED IN A SANCTUARY CITY. AND JUST MAYBE THIS WILL START THE END OF THIS.
THE WORDS "DEMAND" I DEMAND THAT HEY GET THE HELL OUT. WHO'S BACKING THIS BUSH OR CALDERON. AND THEY WANT N.A.F.T.A, RIGHT!

Our government isn't listening. They've turned a blind eye for so long, and rather than enforce our laws, they are now impotent and in hiding, to chicken to take a stance.

I don't get the free benefits they do. The government doesn't live on the same level as the rest of us chumps, who follow the laws of our country, we keep yelling and nothing is happening.

I believe that the people who are "for" these unwanted people, should be made to sign up to be solely, financially liable for what the illegals and their litters cost the the rest of us. Maybe that would shut 'em up.

These illegals spit in our faces, like chimanga-pedro-jose-luis-etc., and his amigos.

When Americans really wake up and realize we are fighting for nothing, and that our government is protecting them, maybe vigilante justice will prevail

COMMENT: HAS ANYONE LOOK UP THE WORD,

CESSPOOL: FILTHY, EVIL CORRUPT PLACE OF

STATE. OUR COUNTRY, THE U.S.A IS NOT FAR

FROM IT. JUST LOOK AT THE MEXICAN BORDER,

ARE WE THERE YET.........SUSANM

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I'd like to volunteer to chauffeur some IA's to these rallies. They're like huge advertizements for enforcement. You know what Americans don't like? Foreigners in their country telling them what to do. They'd be much better off trying to slide through a back room deal in the middle of the night.

I hate playing Devil's Advocate but:

when I look at colleges and university's all around the country, the ones teaching computer science. I notice that virtually all of those programs dont seem to adapt to new technology. They still teach Unix and C and a LOT of theory. Along with all of those Gen. Eds. focused on political correctness.

I agree with Bill Gates to a point, these schools....even here in Seattle dont teach C#, ASP.NET deep enough.....if at all. Or just a little of those or Java or C++.

Bellevue Comm College has a 6 month MCAD program. Fine but the MCAD's are being retired in 1 year and are being replaced by MCPD's.

Sure it looks nice to have a BS or AS in Computer Science, but it might as well be a Chemistry degree.

Don't get me wrong, I hate mass immigration(legal and otherwise) as much as anybody. I know that the high price of fuel, groceries, housing, high traffic, wage depression, etc. has a lot to do with people coming here, the majority of which don't want to assimilate.

ADD LOW SLAVE PAY IN TOO

As Bill Gates and his buddies replace Americans with slaves; they pay them peanuts too.

See the proof:

"...The temporary visa program known as H-1B enables U.S. employers to hire professional-level foreign workers for a period of up to six years. According to the law (8 U.S.C. § 1182(n)), employers must pay H-1B workers either the same rate as other employees with similar skills and qualifications or the "prevailing wage" for that occupation and location, whichever is higher. This is to prevent the hiring of foreign workers from depressing U.S. wages and to protect foreign workers from exploitation.

This report examines the wage data in Labor Department records for Fiscal Year 2004. It compares wages in approved Labor Condition Applications (LCAs) for H-1B workers in computer programming occupations to wage levels of U.S. workers in the same occupation and location. The analysis demonstrates that, despite the H-1B prevailing-wage requirement, actual pay rates reported by employers of H-1B workers were significantly lower than those of American workers. These findings show that the implementation of the prevailing-wage requirement in the H-1B program does not ensure that H-1B workers are paid comparably to U.S. workers. Moreover, the data suggest that, rather than helping employers meet labor shortages or bring in workers with needed skills, as is often claimed by program users, the H-1B program is instead more often used by employers to import cheaper labor...."

The rest of the URL:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back1305.html

Anybody who has ever worked with H1bs would know this finding well. I guess CIS had to do a report to prove the very obvious - like reports that show smoking is bad for your health or rich people have bigger houses, etc.

95% of H1Bs are run of the mill workers with no special skills except for their willingness to work for less so as to gain US residency for their family.

Why not agree to give all of a competency test, even the ones already here, and if they don't show a high level of ability then they don't get the visa, or they lose the one they have and have to return to their country of origin.

Sure didn't need a study to tell me that!

It was never about the brightest or best. It's always been about the bottom-line. While living and working in Silicon Valley California, I routinely came into contact with imported foreign workers. Nice people for the most part, but no where near the high caliber of American workers. In salary alone, High-tech industries were able to hire two foreign engineers at less the wage of one American engineer. And of course, foreign workers got far less in benefits. The huge amounts of savings these companies were making never translated into lower retail product prices. People like Bill Gates became billionaires off of the combination of extremely cheap labor and high product prices. American workers have been effectively excluded from these jobs because, the business conglomerates have been able to put the people of their choice in office with huge amounts money given to election coffers. And in return, the paid for politicians, pay back Big Business with even more H-1B visa's.

!!!!!!!!!ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!

04/29/2008: Republican Senators Bill to Terminate DV Lottery Replaced by Immigrant Visas for Advanced Degree Holders

Senator Judd Gregg (NH) introduced a bill "to replace the diversity visa lottery program with a program that issues visas to aliens with an advanced degree." This bill is co-sponsored by Sen. Lamar Alexander (TN). Sen. Elizabeth Dole (NC), Sen. John Sununu (NH), Sen. John Cornyn (TX), and Sen. Orrin Hatch (UT). These Senators are proposing to expand the immigration opportunities for Advanced Degree holder foreign workers in STEM or related fields without increasing the total annual number of immigrant visa under the current immigration system. Interesting legislative bill. For the full text of the bill, click S. 2868.
Part of the statement in introducing this bill co-sponsored by "leading" Senators in the Senate includes the following:
Sen. Gregg stated, “Talent is a nation’s most important resource in today’s information age, and our nation’s immigration policies need to catch up to this economic reality. In addition to increasing the number of H-1B visas and employment-based visas for highly skilled workers, I believe that Congress should realign our immigration programs so they better meet our economic needs, including the well-documented shortage of workers with advanced degrees in the math and sciences. By converting a lottery visa program that has marginal skills requirements into one that is focused on the best and the brightest, we strengthen our competitive advantage, spur economic and job growth here in the United States, and deter employers from sending work overseas where highly skilled talent is located. Our visa lottery programs should not just benefit those who are selected, but should have significant positive ramifications for our nation as a whole. I look forward to working with my colleges on this measure and other immigration proposal to keep America competitive."

DO WE HAVE TO KEEP BEATING THIS DEAD HORSE!

The majority of H-1B visa holders possess no special skills that their American counterparts lack. They are desired because they come CHEAP. The average H-1B foreign worker is paid 20 percent less than a comparably qualified U.S. citizen.

EVRYONE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH, KNOWS H-1B IS A SCAM, PERIOD!... ONCE AGAIN HERE`S THE TRUTH!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

I live next ot UCSD, and a huge prrecentage of the study body are Chinese (not American born). Considering how hard it is for American born to get into Universities, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy when they say they can't find workers (and not totally convinced of that). We don't need all these foreign students, who will probably overstay their visas, and be added to the illegal population.

Excuse all the typos above, I was getting worked up.

PRESS2 4 ENGLISH, COLLEGE DROPOUTS LIKE GATES DID JUST FINE WITH C+

Number one, software and technical jobs at MSFT require like one techie type and approximately 20-30 paper shufflers. The Vice President of MSFT has a degree in Asian Arts, that says it all. Most of the H-1Bs aren't skilled labor.

The Chemical Engineer, you mentioned, if there were jobs in Seattle for him/her [there aren't], designs massive process plants that produce an industrial base and thousands of American jobs.....oh, that's right, we sent all the industrial base engineering work to China, Japan, Korea, etc....we just fiddle around with video game design and X-Box.

MSFT or Gameboy companies don't need any more H1-Bs or workers outside of America to invent VISTA; they tried that and its a failure. I use XP and am tempted to switch to Mac; I bought Vista earlier and a lot of my key S/W didn't work on it [or slowed it way down and caused crashes], then the new Vista computer I was downloading on crashed with no warranty [place to bring it].

I'm buying all used computers next time, so I don't lose so much money with toilet paper warranties. Even the Washington State Attorney General I reported it to told me to go to Hades.

Ohhhh...have you tried getting your Vista O/S to reboot from a factory motherboard replacement with no Key Code provided....lol.....you have to talk to that rude guy from India that hangs up on you. I got through to him, talked to him in a mean low voice and he finally reluctantly provided me the alternate 58 character mesmerization time waste code, and through a miracle even I, Software engineer got it entered right, to keep my Vista alive [it was on a temporary boot from factory with no Key Code], until it crashed days later anyway permanently.

This Seattle computer business, especially with Vista, and all the wonderful recent help from the C+ foreigners has gone to Hades in a hen basket!

AMERICAN INDUSTRIAL BASE ENGINEERS DINOSAURS AREN'T SOFTWARE RELATED

Here's a backup paper [high school essay paper I helped my daughter develop] on chemical engineering as a career choice, enjoy:

Chemistry B
25 April 2008
Career Fields Related to Chemistry

The level of education is required is a college education for Chemical Engineer, Environmental Engineer and Petroleum Engineer.
The type(s) of degree(s) is/are required for a Chemical Engineer is at least a BS, but could proceed to MS and then PhD in Chemical Engineering. An Environmental Engineer generally requires a Civil Engineering degree, similarly with a BS through PhD required. A Petroleum Engineer requires a Petroleum Engineering degree, similarly with a BS through PhD required. (BS Degree Requirements)
The job outlook for the next 5-10 years is anomalous. There are currently no engineering jobs are listed in the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) as the fastest growing among the top 30 professions, except software engineering in America. The job outlook in Texas looks adequate enough in the three areas (Job Search), but who wants to live in Texas? Out sourcing of technical positions may destroy this dream though, so monitoring opportunities constantly state by state, will update the job outlook analyses for all technical positions in America. (30 Occupations with the largest Employment Growth, 2006-2016)
The average salaries are starting at $40-50K and with experience can reach an approximate average of $60-90K in 5-10 years for all the positions. But bear in mind, the out sourcing of America’s technical base and using mass foreign guest worker H-1Bs can severely impact all three (3) salaries on a high probability of late and cut them down as much as 30-40% as globalism growth by corporations continue to impact America. (30 Occupations with the largest Employment Growth, 2006-2016)
Most of the jobs are located related to chemistry are in Texas. Some are in Alaska too (Job Search).
I am not pursuing engineering math or science employment because of chronic wage deterioration through out sourcing. The pragmatic BLS evidence documents that all engineers are likely a dinosaur in America. Couple that with the excessive GPA competition at the University of Washington and likely grim job outlooks in technical areas in America as we head into a severe recession recently due to improper growth planning in America. I’m going into a more stable job area that relies on more overpopulation growth expectations from globalism, a Social Worker (US Doesn’t Need More College Graduates).

Works Cited

“30 Occupations with the largest Employment Growth, 2006-2016.” News Bureau of Labor Statistics. 2008.
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“BS Degree Requirements.” KFUPM.EDU. 2008.
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“Job Search.” Monster.com. 2008.

“US Doesn’t Need More College Graduates.” The Christian Science Monitor. 25 September 2006.
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OHHH...THE PAPER ABOVE GOT A 100% FROM THE CHEMISTRY INSTRUCTOR

Folks, this study just confirms what we’ve been saying on this board for some time.

The only reason that the big business crime bosses want these H1B pukes here is …

THE PUKES ARE WILLING TO WORK CHEAP IN RETURN FOR THE CHANCE TO GET GREEN CARDS!

The best way to get the pukes to go home is …

SHUT OFF THE SUPPLY OF GREEN CARDS!

AMERICA IS WAY OVERPOPULATED!
NO MORE ROOM AT THE AMERICANA INN!

TIME FOR ALL THE LEGAL AND ILLEGAL INVADERS TO GET THEIR A**ES BACK TO THEIR HOMELANDS!

oh yeah? So who really is the best and the brightest? That hobo that was holding the placard "will code HTML for money..." or the "bright" losers that prowl these boards?? Grow up losers and smell and flowers!!!

These workers are more energetic, more dynamic, more adaptable, and more flexible than their American counterparts. The economy definitely needs more of them going forward. This is a very critical need given the declining productivity of the aging native born American workforce, and the poor work ethic and other deficiencies shown by American kids.

AMERICAN PEOPLE, CALL YOUR SENATORS AND REPRESANTATIVES AND TELL THEM TO OPPOSE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS, ANDY BENEFITS!!!!!!
NO AMNESTY-NO ILLEGALS! NO ILLEGALS- AMERICA IS A SAFE COUNTRY AGAINST DRUG-SMUGLERS, GANGS AND OTHER CRIMINALS!!!!

AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO NOT LET ILLEGALS or THIRD WORLD TAKE OVER THIS COUNTRY!!!!EITHER YOU OR ILLEGALS--- CHOOSE!!!

There are a number of bills in Congress right now that would expand the H1B program and even one by Zoe Lofgren that would make more employment based greencards available. If any of these bills pass then more citizens will lose their careers, as the law allows most employers to freely replace citizens with H1B people at will, even if the citizens are performing well in their jobs. Once the H1B-ers get their greencards, then the displacement of Americans becomes permanent.

You can also expect more fake job ads and interviews, like the fraud shown in the *How not to hire an American* videos on YouTube. In these videos, lawyers from the Cohen & Grigsby law firm in Pittsburgh discuss how they help employers game the hiring laws and legally disqualify even highly skilled American job seekers, just so H1B people who are ALREADY working in those advertised jobs can get sponsored for greencards.

Much of the H1B mess can be tied to the employment based greencard program, since it is the prospect of permanent residence that lures many of these foreigners here. H1Bers who do get greencards often go into management, where they engage in blatant discrimination against American citizens in favor of people from their home countries. Also, I have yet to meet an H1Ber-turned-greencard-holder that is even remotely interested in becoming a US citizen. You see, these obnoxious parasites want all the privileges and comforts of living in the US with NONE of the responsibilities of citizenship. These are good reasons to shut down the EB greencard program as well as the H1B racket.

Here is this story from April 29, 2008 as it was reported on CNN’s “Lou Dobbs Tonight”:

http://www.cnn.com//video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/04/28/ldt.h1b.visas.cnn

Well just for GP (general purposes) here is this “fake out the Americans” job advertising meeting again:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

Where are the self-proclaimed brilliant Asian-Indian posters to this site who claim an almost superior intellect to Americans? You would have thought we Americans were being replaced by geniuses from around the globe because we’re too dumb or lazy to obtain these great jobs.

Purpose driven executive, what are you exactly, some kind of fifth columnist. Your views are absolutely bizarre. If communist China(because that's what it is Mr. Executive) told you they have your best interests at heart, as an American,(if in fact you are), you'd believe them, wouldn't you? For my part, I believe your a run of the mill Mexican nationalist, or some East Coast liberal kook.

I am a former National Merit scholar whose career prospects have been decimated by the flood of H-1B imports. For those that haven't had the dubious privilege of working with the H-1B imported workers, here are some examples of how they manage to mangle the English language.

Warehouse >> Vare - house
Immigrate >> Eee - mee - grate
Zero >> Jee - ro
Architecture >> Ar - kee - tek - ter
H-1B >> Hehch - VON - bee
Character >> Kah – RAHK – ter
Calculate >> Kah – kah – late
Organization >> Or – gan – say – shun
Purchase >> Per - chayse

I could go on and on with this, but hopefully you get the idea. Between these workers and the illegals, English is quickly becoming a foreign language right here in the United States.

No kidding. I don't think many Americans believed that old song from employers. They aren't any better or smarter than an American worker, plus they have the added disadvantage of not knowing our culture and our standards in many cases.
There is only one reason why H1B workers are wanted here and that is because of the greed of American employers.

Sean, you left out :

country= cawn-tree

California= cawl- ee-fawn- ya

Now it's time to get a wedgi- tahd-ian sondvich for Mein Herr Go - vernor!

"These workers are more energetic, more dynamic, more adaptable, and more flexible than their American counterparts."

Translation: more desperate, and more willing and flexible when it comes to butt kissing than their American counterparts.

[FAIR edit]

Bobby, I am none of the things you accuse me of. Wake up from your dream and see reality. You are being outmanned physically by Hispanics and outsmarted by Asians too. Instead of dreaming up whacked out conspiracy theories, you need to adapt to the global economy. Instead of wasting your time on rants and conspiracy theories, why not go into profession or start a business that serves the needs of the immigrants instead? They are the future whether you like it or not.

Purpose Driven Executive, thank you for the "life" advice. I had a successfull business for years without ever having broken any laws, for example "tax laws", "workers comp.laws", etc, as do so many of those whom you claim serve the needs of the "immigratns".

It seems so clear to me that you haven't the slightest idea of what massive, taxpayer draining, American culture destroying, criminal illegal immigration is doing to this nation? However,your not alone, so I understand your attitude. Your bottom line, very restricted, false view of economics, is shared by many other people who are, well, blinded by that very bottom line. I have to speak in generalities, because if the thousands of reasonable posts, by people like Softwarengineer, and so many other folks whom have given you not opinions, but well documented facts on why outsourcing, insourcing and illegal immigration, are so damaging to this nation have not convinced you--nothing ever will.

It's not ugly...it's sickening...
That our spineless leaders continue to kowtow to illegals and the P'sOS who exploit and profit from them!

UNCONTROLLED GROWTH IN AMERICA

That's what this guy is pushing and its destroying our wages and housing industry. But we're racist if we want our immigration laws enforced to put a halt to uncontrolled growth? This guy is clearly racist for just the Latinos.

I view it more as a wave of common sense.

Perhaps the strategy here is to paint us all as a bunch of racist yahoos. That way our government will have an excuse to override us, since our motives are incorrect.

Ruben, blame America first, Navarette.

Hypocrites, Nazi's, profiling, racists, haters. That's Rubens assessment of everyone who supports enforcement of America's laws. I imagine Navarette conveniently won't extend his comparison to how other nations command respect of their borders, or enforce their laws against illegal aliens. All nations. Especially Mexico.

If amnesty, open borders and unlimited, unregulated overpopulation is Navarrette and LaRaza's 'middle ground', I hate to think what lies on the other side of that view.

If the criminal illegal immigrants took the time and effort to immigrate to this country legally instead of like the common criminals they are, they would find themselves welcomed instead of hated. The citizens of the U.S. have never tolerated criminals no matter where they come from or who they are. They have no one except themselves to blame for the hate they bring upon themselves.

First of all Mr. Ruben Navarette, you are American-Mexican, not Mexican-American. Maybe you should get that straight first? Second, there is no middle ground on illegal alien immigration, it's against the law, period! The hypocrisy here is trying to justify illegal aliens entering our country by saying there's a double standard. The truth is 85% of American citizens are saying stay out, and only a handful of business conglomerates, and special interest groups are saying come in. Who's the hypocrite here?
And then, of course, comes the racial argument, which is always rears it's ugly head when you don't have a viable argument. And then comes the double standard argument, which of course is just a continuation of the racial argument. Again, Mr. Navarett, who's the hypocrite here?
You were right in one respect, it's getting ugly. As one sheriff on the border said, Americans are getting so mad, their going to start shooting, soon!

People who find debate 'ugly' are not believers in free expressions of opinion. They want their agenda and no opposition. I hope the debate turns uglier...

As for his list of things that Hispanics find distasteful:
"The hypocrisy. We have two signs on the U.S.-Mexican border: "Keep Out" and "Help Wanted."" I'm for ending the hypocrisy immediately - take down the figurative "Help Wanted" sign.

"The racism. With lightning speed, the debate went from anti-illegal immigrant to anti-immigrant to anti-Mexican." Puh-leeze. Idiotic take on the issue. The debate is completely about anti-ILLEGAL-immigrants. The illegal Mexicans are the ones who are making it about themselves. They make up a huge number of the total illegals ... and moreso than any other group of illegals, they are the ones always demanding some right or benefit or handout. In addition, their President is by far the most meddling of all groups when it comes to U.S. immigration policy.

"The opportunism. Too many politicians are trying too hard to portray themselves as tough on illegal immigration." I would agree that's ugly - they are all talk, but spineless liars when it comes to action.

"The naiveté. People ask why Mexico won't help stop illegal immigration. Hint: Last year, Mexicans in the United States sent home $25 billion." What a goofball! Are you kidding me? You think people are naive to that fact? You're making our point exactly. These illegals are robbing the American economy and welfare systems to subsidize their home countries. We're very aware of that fact, thank you very much. Naive, my backside ...

"The double standard. The same folks who have zero tolerance for illegal immigrants easily tolerate those who hire them." This guy really is clueless. Yeah, that's why people are pushing so hard to heavily penalize businesses that knowingly hire illegals.

This guy sounds either really uninformed or just plain extremely bias to me. I think he twists the facts and misinterprets, (no doubt intentionally), anti-illegals' strong opposition to open-border nuts as being anti-Mexican (as the majority of Mexicans seem to fall into the open-border nuts group).

Perhaps the most ridiculous and hilarious thing about this article is that he describes his approach as "middle-ground" ... and then says his opinions are not far off from the President of one the most racist organizations that exists in the country today ... La Raza! It's clear why Mexicans don't mind if "he speaks for them" ... that's exactly who he is speaking for, and them alone!!

By taking what he calls the middle road, Ruben Navarrette should realize that the only thing in the middle of the road is a yellow stripe and road kill!

LARAZA:

aka THE TAN KLAN!

THE BIGGEST RACIST, HISPANIC SUPREMECY GROUP IN OUR COUNTRY, FUNDED BY OUR TRAITOR GOVERNMENT!

WHAT A JOKE IT IS, THEY`RE TALKING ABOUT HATE, WHEN HATE IS ALL THEY STAND FOR, THE HATRED OF ANYONE NOT BROWN!

Navarro, those "Latinos" he "represents" and LaRaza are ethnic-supremacists. They are convinced that because of their DNA, they are entitled to special rights or some sort of "rights classification" that is due a specialized series of operations in the U.S.A. BASED UPON THEIR DNA.

That is the "classic" definition of an ethnic supremacy organization in the works, what it means to be such in application and process and use of our government to further "special" or extraneous considerations for and about an ethnicity and nothing else than ethnicity.

"Latino/Hispanic" is not a race, it's not even an ethnicity specificaly as such are defined. The races among the human species are: White, Negorid, Asian and Aborigine. So, "Hispanics/Latinos" claiming all this specialized attention and privilege due to their alleged "race" is nonsense, and I doubt that it is even credible enough to pass any trial process in any court of law, as to burden of proof (just try "proving" a distinct "race" privileged to specialized "rights" due to one having had an ancestor from Asia, Spain, the Caribbean and Central America at various times in one's ancestry).

IF this nonsense continues -- Hispanics/Latinos threaten at every opportunity and Season in the U.S. to do harms to someone and anyone (someone will suffer negative consequences if this charade of "rights" and specialized privileges is not supported, funded, publicized, otherwise granted ongoing indulgence despite it being an irrational AND an illigitimate one) -- then the entire consideration in our nation as to "rights" is just reduced to drivel.

There are "human rights" as to civilizations of human beings the world over -- what it means to be civilized and behave accordingly and what it means not to do either or both -- and then there are "civil rights" in the U.S. as a Constitutional (and therefore, a governmental and legitimate concern under the rule of law) THAT APPLY TO CITIZENS, TO ALL CITIZENS of the U.S. and not to only one "color" or another, but to all citizens.

The Civil Rights issue does not extend globally to all human beings simply because our Constitution does not do so -- it's not a document that rules the world, it's a defining document that establishes and addresses our nation and what it is and is not, and in that nation, as to ciitzens and everything else from the top on down.

But it does not extend to Mexico, to citizens of Mexico, it does not reach into Guatemala and declare an individual there as being endowed with "rights" in the U.S.A. parallel with citizens in the U.S.A.

So this entire "Hispanic/Latino" (people who define themselves by a very vague reference to their DNA, to ancestors and cultures mostly of the Central and South American nations -- it is a very rare thing that a citizen of Spain in Spain or Europe goes around claiming to be "Latino" or even "Hispanic") is A CULTURAL MANIPULATION OF TERMS and it is furthered and popularized becuuse the goals are to establish FALSE "RIGHTS" by exaggeration and falsification of our terms under the Constitution.

Our Civil Rights in this nation define what cannot be done to and about an individual (a citizen can't be denied housing, for example, because of race or awarded housing because of race - "race" being not a ticket to be evaluated for gain or denial, in other words). They don't, to my understanding, "award" "special goods and services" to people just because a great-great-great-grandfather from Spain married the descendant in Nicauragua of Asian immigrants from centuries earlier.

What Hispanic/Latino "rights" afficiondos seek is some sort of "I deserve or merit to receive a special circumstance because of my name, my ancestors, my SOCIAL STANDING OR PRIVILEGE." It's an antiquated form of "award" or demand for provision from the general taxpayers and nation just like the feudal system was in "Olde Europe": a son is due something just because of who is father was, and on and on, while those outside that "privilege" feudal system were denied the same receipt of whatever (goods, money, privilege, social standing, exemptions from penalties, etc.).

I've posed these confronting questions before on other sites and no one has yet (ever) come forth with any reasonable definition nor "excuse" as to why "Hispanic/Latino" afficiondos/affiliates (they define as such, are participants in this socio-political movement) are due anything, anything at all, that individual ciitzens of the U.S. are not already eligible for. In other words, where is the specialized edge or privilege just by nature of someone having had certain ancestors?

If we as a nation are going to develope and recognize specialized rights and privileges for "Hispanic/Latino" people, as they claim to be, then we will also need to start rewarding the same things to "Anglo Saxons" and "Bavarians" and "Northern Italians" and the Hunans and Schezuans and whatnot else. They're as "eligible" under "ethnicity" claims as any "Hispanic/Latino" is.

The issue is citizenship. If you're a U.S. citizen, you're already receiving all the "rights" other citizens are. When you're denied these civil rights, you can bring legal claims against the perpetrator or try to. That's about it. You don't get a free house, free identities, free healthcare, free educations, free conferences with governors, free lunches in Congress, free anything, just because your ancestor was a Grand Poobah of some tribe somewhere.

Navarro, those "Latinos" he "represents" and LaRaza are ethnic-supremacists. They are convinced that because of their DNA, they are entitled to special rights or some sort of "rights classification" that is due a specialized series of operations in the U.S.A. BASED UPON THEIR DNA.

That is the "classic" definition of an ethnic supremacy organization in the works, what it means to be such in application and process and use of our government to further "special" or extraneous considerations for and about an ethnicity and nothing else than ethnicity.

"Latino/Hispanic" is not a race, it's not even an ethnicity specificaly as such are defined. The races among the human species are: White, Negorid, Asian and Aborigine. So, "Hispanics/Latinos" claiming all this specialized attention and privilege due to their alleged "race" is nonsense, and I doubt that it is even credible enough to pass any trial process in any court of law, as to burden of proof (just try "proving" a distinct "race" privileged to specialized "rights" due to one having had an ancestor from Asia, Spain, the Caribbean and Central America at various times in one's ancestry).

IF this nonsense continues -- Hispanics/Latinos threaten at every opportunity and Season in the U.S. to do harms to someone and anyone (someone will suffer negative consequences if this charade of "rights" and specialized privileges is not supported, funded, publicized, otherwise granted ongoing indulgence despite it being an irrational AND an illigitimate one) -- then the entire consideration in our nation as to "rights" is just reduced to drivel.

There are "human rights" as to civilizations of human beings the world over -- what it means to be civilized and behave accordingly and what it means not to do either or both -- and then there are "civil rights" in the U.S. as a Constitutional (and therefore, a governmental and legitimate concern under the rule of law) THAT APPLY TO CITIZENS, TO ALL CITIZENS of the U.S. and not to only one "color" or another, but to all citizens.

The Civil Rights issue does not extend globally to all human beings simply because our Constitution does not do so -- it's not a document that rules the world, it's a defining document that establishes and addresses our nation and what it is and is not, and in that nation, as to ciitzens and everything else from the top on down.

But it does not extend to Mexico, to citizens of Mexico, it does not reach into Guatemala and declare an individual there as being endowed with "rights" in the U.S.A. parallel with citizens in the U.S.A.

So this entire "Hispanic/Latino" (people who define themselves by a very vague reference to their DNA, to ancestors and cultures mostly of the Central and South American nations -- it is a very rare thing that a citizen of Spain in Spain or Europe goes around claiming to be "Latino" or even "Hispanic") is A CULTURAL MANIPULATION OF TERMS and it is furthered and popularized becuuse the goals are to establish FALSE "RIGHTS" by exaggeration and falsification of our terms under the Constitution.

Our Civil Rights in this nation define what cannot be done to and about an individual (a citizen can't be denied housing, for example, because of race or awarded housing because of race - "race" being not a ticket to be evaluated for gain or denial, in other words). They don't, to my understanding, "award" "special goods and services" to people just because a great-great-great-grandfather from Spain married the descendant in Nicauragua of Asian immigrants from centuries earlier.

What Hispanic/Latino "rights" afficiondos seek is some sort of "I deserve or merit to receive a special circumstance because of my name, my ancestors, my SOCIAL STANDING OR PRIVILEGE." It's an antiquated form of "award" or demand for provision from the general taxpayers and nation just like the feudal system was in "Olde Europe": a son is due something just because of who is father was, and on and on, while those outside that "privilege" feudal system were denied the same receipt of whatever (goods, money, privilege, social standing, exemptions from penalties, etc.).

I've posed these confronting questions before on other sites and no one has yet (ever) come forth with any reasonable definition nor "excuse" as to why "Hispanic/Latino" afficiondos/affiliates (they define as such, are participants in this socio-political movement) are due anything, anything at all, that individual ciitzens of the U.S. are not already eligible for. In other words, where is the specialized edge or privilege just by nature of someone having had certain ancestors?

If we as a nation are going to develope and recognize specialized rights and privileges for "Hispanic/Latino" people, as they claim to be, then we will also need to start rewarding the same things to "Anglo Saxons" and "Bavarians" and "Northern Italians" and the Hunans and Schezuans and whatnot else. They're as "eligible" under "ethnicity" claims as any "Hispanic/Latino" is.

The issue is citizenship. If you're a U.S. citizen, you're already receiving all the "rights" other citizens are. When you're denied these civil rights, you can bring legal claims against the perpetrator or try to. That's about it. You don't get a free house, free identities, free healthcare, free educations, free conferences with governors, free lunches in Congress, free anything, just because your ancestor was a Grand Poobah of some tribe somewhere.

This guy aids and abets CRIMINALS. Unfortinately for him , many of those are from his own nationality. Time to stop making excuses for your criminal relatives Mr Navarette. You are embarrassingly stupid...like your friend Murgia you are divisive and racially motivated to encourage illegal behavior from your own kind. Shameful. And sorry buddy , it ain't working either. The American people are too smart to buy your stupid irrational,implausible arguments.So take your relatives and go HOME to Mexico. You obviously have more allegiance to Mexico than this country so you are FREE to LEAVE!!

This guy aids and abets CRIMINALS. Unfortinately for him , many of those are from his own nationality. Time to stop making excuses for your criminal relatives Mr Navarette. You are embarrassingly stupid...like your friend Murgia you are divisive and racially motivated to encourage illegal behavior from your own kind. Shameful. And sorry buddy , it ain't working either. The American people are too smart to buy your stupid irrational,implausible arguments.So take your relatives and go HOME to Mexico. You obviously have more allegiance to Mexico than this country so you are FREE to LEAVE!!

Guess what Ruben? I am an American too. The biggest difference is that I advocate for Americans and not Mexicans.

If all I did was openly advocate for white American's the way you openly advocate for Hispanics then you could call me a racist.

This guy aids and abets CRIMINALS. Unfortinately for him , many of those are from his own nationality. Time to stop making excuses for your criminal relatives Mr Navarette. You are embarrassingly stupid...like your friend Murgia you are divisive and racially motivated to encourage illegal behavior from your own kind. Shameful. And sorry buddy , it ain't working either. The American people are too smart to buy your stupid irrational,implausible arguments.So take your relatives and go HOME to Mexico. You obviously have more allegiance to Mexico than this country so you are FREE to LEAVE!!

WOW! By the time I finished reading the essay by -S- I forgot what I was going to write! Way to go!!!!

After 20 years of having our tax money spent on people who salute another flag in THIS country - because they have no respect for THIS country and don't ever want to assimilate into THIS country . . . I think we have the right to feel slighted. This is our country and they are INVADING IT and I resent it!

If this guy was a TRUE AMERICAN he would be against illegal immigration and against La Raza; however I feel that because he is taking the side of the illegal immigrants he is against the United States.

Navarette has things totally inverted. Americans are now paying an estimated 3,500 dollars in taxes to keep illegal aliens in the nation. Hundreds of millions in taxes to keep them in our jails in California alone. Thirty four percent of them, admitted grudgingly by the government are on welfare, while 2 percent of them do agricultural work. The lier Hillary, McClown, and racist Obama all want open borders. Fun.

The only thing ugly about the immigration debate, is the way Americans are railroaded in their own country by those who shouldn't be here to begin with.
Navarette's reasons are all hogwash. Americans don't like the actions of employers. Our ancestors came here legally and left their pompous attitudes and sense of entitlement (if they had one) at home. Sending money home to Mexico is no justification for coming here and enforcement works better than amnesty or allowing the problem to fester. If a ugly attitude has extended to legal Mexicans, blame it on the illegals who are the cause. (Yes, I'm serious) If you are here illegally, you need to get out of this country.

What is so hard about preventing illegal aliens from taking Americans taxes? Has anyone noticed that it's never hard for politicians to say NO to hundreds requests by actual citizens they supposedly represent. Americans are abused in so many ways by these rotten politicians that it's becoming normal behavior for them.

Until e-verify or basic pilot is made mandatory nationwide, we will see employers continue to exploit himan labor!

As far as I'm concerned they are just as guilty as the illegals they hire and should be arrested right along w/ them !!

THIS ARGUMENT OVER CONSTITUTIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS AN AMMENDMENT

If we're not going to enforce our country's existing laws, we don't need an ammendment to enforce them; we need an ammendment NOT to enforce them.

Again the citizens of Los Angeles are going to have to pay for extra police because of another May 1 march of illegal aliens. Get on the ball Kansas, or this will happen to you. You will pay taxes to keep illegal alien Mexican nationalists from rioting. Your taxes will be wasted, over and over.

In case you want to write to Kansas Representatives, write to them and see if it makes a difference.

brungardt@senate.state.ks.us; gilstrap@senate.state.ks.us; lynn@senate.state.ks.us; reitz@senate.state.ks.us; vratil@senate.state.ks.us; brownlee@senate.state.ks.us; francisco@senate.state.ks.us;
barnett@senate.state.ks.us; ostmeyer@senate.state.ks.us

LET'S CLEAN UP THE REST OF AMERICA TOO THE SAME WAY

Great start! Now we just need to clean up the rest of America!

I AGREE WITH SOFTWARE.

There you go Virginia its in black and white now what it costs your state to accomidate illegal immigrants.

I am part of a small NH group that has been active in the fight against illegal immigration. We have been seeing some success in terms of getting public awareness of the issue and education.

The solution is simple: GET INVOLVED. Write Letters to the Editor, Write your local Leg. for enforcement, write your local police chief about enforcement as well.

Donate your time and $.

AND THE GANGS, DRUGS AND CRIME GO TOO...

SANCTUARY CITIES ARE DESTROYING THEMSELVES FROM WITHIN...

THEY DESERVE ALL THE CHAOS THEY GET...

ALL FEDERAL FUNDING SHOULD BE STOPPED TO SANCTUARY CITIES, AND THE TAXPAYING VOTERS SHOULD THROW THE PANDERING, SELLOUT POLITICIANS OUT OF OFFICE!

That is why we here in Southern California want to send them up to San Francisco , whos Mayor has rolled out the welcoming matt for illegal aliens--Americans he's not to excited about--except for their taxes.

Keep denying! Keep them moving until they move all the way back to wherever they came from.

I would assume the school district they left is better off without the illegal children although they are probably crying because they get paid on the number of children in classes and with the downturn that's too bad! All other services are probably seeing more money for those actually needing their services.

AMERICAN ORGANISED CRIME IS IN A SANCTUARY CITY NEAR YOU

I read the most amazing commentary by Chuck Norris, on World Net Daily. He is for enforcing and deporting in a serious way. Excellent article from Norris, who was/is a Huckabee supporter strangely enough.

They should pull them out and head off to Mexico.
Check out dailyrecord.com for Sunday, 4/27 to see how other U.S. officials in NJ are catering to illegals.
Of course, Christie might run for governor and has "clarified" his statements after receiving much negative publicity.

COMMENT:

HEY, BUSH IS GIVING OUT BUS TICKETS TO

CALIF, THEY WILL WECOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS,

DON'T WORRY YOU WILL GET THE "BENEFITS"

SAME DAY. 24 HR SERVICE PLUS EXTRA IF YOU

GET THERE BY MAY 1, 2008, THANK YOU

I know that the isolationist whack jobs around here despise the Hispanics from south of the border. But whether you like it or not these people represent the future of America. America desperately needs their labor and their purchasing power as consumers as the baby boomers fade away and bite the dust over the next 10-20 years.

These state and local initiatives will mean nothing when the comprehensive immigration reform package becomes law, as it most likely will sometime after the 2008 elections are held and the winning candidates take office. Federal law trumps state law, you know.

Purpose Driven Exec:

Due to your use of the disparaging term "whack job" I have to conclude that you are not interested in a reasoned debate. I find your argument to be particularly easy to refute, though, so I will respond anyway.

The birth rate of native-born Americans is close to the replacement level, and the huge population increase predicted for the next few decades is only due to immigration. In other words we don't need immigration to maintain a steady population level for the foreseeable future.

Even if we did have a declining population I would still favor just letting it decrease. Life would become better here with fewer people and then more people would feel like having large families. Crowded neighborhoods with bad schools are not good places to raise large families. I recommend Steve Sailer’s articles on affordable family formation:

http://isteve.blogspot.com/search/label/Affordable%20family%20formation

I think the disagreement over immigration has a lot to do with identity. For some reason you don’t mind turning the U.S. into a Hispanic country. This is either because you identify with foreigners or because you are one of those people who profit off of high levels of immigration at the expense of the rest of us. Most of us here at this site would rather maintain the current identity and culture of the country.

PURPOSE DRIVEN IS A PROPAGANDIST.

MOST PROPAGANDISTS JUST MAKE UP THEIR OWN NONSENSE, OR CALL YOU NAMES IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM, LIKE LIBERALS DO.

(Headline should refer to Prince William County rather than Prince Georges. Prince Georges County is in Maryland.)

Prince William has done an excellent job. The county is in the D.C. metropolitan area. Biased reports of the Prince William effort are included in The Washington Post. Now even the Post can't ignore the facts of the savings to the county and the improvement of living conditions in old neighborhoods that had been overrun with boarding houses and crime. Prince William will serve as a model for communities around the country. The residents are middle class, primarily blue collar people who worked hard and smart to rescue their community. Across the country, people like the Prince William residents will not stand for amnesty (aka "comprehensive" "immigration reform").

Hal K, your counter argument doesn't work because the native born replacement births you speak of turn out to be TV watching, video game playing bums just like their parents. The only way for the economy to support the homegrown freeloaders is to import both low tech and high tech immigrants as needed to do the actual work.

Like many others here, you're living in a fantasy world that exists only inside your head. Why can't you see the reality of the modern world? Maybe you're just a gullible person who spends too much time listening to Lou Dobbs. Or maybe you're just a whack job.

Purpose Driven Executive, if these people represent the future of America, kiss America goodbye. 34 percent of them are on welfare, right now. Two percent do agricultural work. There is a 50 percent drop out rate among illegal alien school age students, and many have more allegiance to Mexico than the U.S. What substance are you on?

Purpose Driven Exec:

I was right about you not being worth arguing with. My impression is that you are a racist and a bad person.

Couldn't get it opened

Great job, Dan. Wilkes isn't close to your league in this debate.

"UNCONTROLLED GROWTH"

You've been doing this for for over 10 years and you have a great composure on television. I'm sure you'll do an excellent job.

Here's a suggestion: Use the term "uncontrolled growth" in America clogging our infrastructures and social agencies.

I prefer "overpopulation", but the open border types attach "hate" to that word.

"Uncontrolled Growth" hasn't been used much by MSM or politicians [except as something they don't like anyway] and they can't ambiguously attach the "R" card to it....and 90% of Americans are dead against "Uncontrolled Growth"...

MORE INFORMATION FOR DAN STEIN

Hi Dan, and the rest of the bloggers too, I just input this Stagflation Blog entree into Dr. Roubini's comments and thought you'd like a copy too, it definitely may help your "uncontrolled growth" debate:

"....I'M SO RELIEFED

I feel I fit in to this blog now, it doesn't seem so "stuffed shirt" anymore, more relaxed and laid back.

Anyway, here's a high school essay I helped my daughter with on the future for our children (it fits the stagflation article from Dr. Roubini), enjoy [it got a 95% by the way]:

United States Government B

28 April 2008

Executive Branch Essays Assignment

The size of the federal bureaucracy continues to grow at a horrifying rate, as the Department of Homeland Security was added on after 911 because of severe security risks our country faces. The President’s ability to properly control government is getting mitigated as the country and its government grows at this alarming rate. Far more problems are occurring in the country now too, with basically uncontrolled population growth in America, causing a plethora of economic, security and environmental impacts to a degree we have never seen in the history of America. I’m sure voting for a proper Senator and Congressman that is in line with your views is far more practical than just a commander and chief Presidential choice, as at least they can form committees and draw from popular vote strengths and opinions from the people more effectively. This is far better than a President choice picked by a handful of lobbyists led executive power direction, that lack proper pragmatic details, direction, vision and morals to plan a way out of the coming American quagmire.

It’s easy to say, reduce the federal bureaucracy that will fix the problem. What is the federal bureaucracy? It’s the Food and Drug Administration that makes sure your food is clean. It’s the Federal Aviation Association, which makes sure your plane trip is safe. It’s the Department of Defense that makes sure you’re safe. In other words, are you going to be happy in land without a postal department? No, the answer isn’t reducing our safe guards and critical services by reducing government in those areas, nor is it removing all the regulations that protect us too. The answer is depopulating our country and our environmental and security costs will reduce substantially. We can solve the greenhouse gas problem and set an example to the rest of the world to depopulate too. I see terrorism, hunger, energy/food/water shortages, etc; etc just plain going away in a few decades and the President can draw a sigh of relief and reduce many of his departments’ bureaucracy. We must act now. Politicians are clearly afraid to act against uncontrolled population growth in America because special interests want lower wages and uncontrolled growth for short-term greed and without special interest money, you can’t get elected. Let’s hope their fear and greed doesn’t lead us all over the cliff, because we acted way too late.

The civil service system has been beneficial to the operation of the federal government by assuring that people stay put and gain experience. It is an honor to serve our country in America’s civil service system; as the majority of our federal servants are doing all they can keep this country afloat. Without our federal civil service system, we’d have to contract out for many times the cost, less effectiveness and far less experience to draw from too. It’s definitely helped America.

Raising taxes in America right now is ludicrous. We’re in a recession and it would make it far worse, as that’s why we’re giving out economic stimulus checks this week. No, we must regain our industrial base again and hence a tax base back again too; or we face the horrifying possibility of becoming a third world nation with no scientists and engineers inventing dreams for my children and I. If we do something like build a government patented car with 100% American labor and materials only; that might work.

Written by Softwarengineer on 2008-04-29 17:40:48..."

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http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/252537/

Brent Wilkes? Isn't he going to prison with Duke Cunningham? Are there two of them?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Wilkes