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January 17, 2008


Gingrich: Current Immigration Woes Due to America's Success

"For four hundred years, since the first European immigrants landed at Jamestown, America has attracted energetic, ambitious people from all over the world. If we adopt the right economic policies and the American economy continues to be the most productive and prosperous, we will continue to draw people from around the world.This is a good challenge. It is better to be the country people want to join than the country people want to leave. It is better to have the highest standard of living in the neighborhood than the lowest. It is better to have hardworking, energetic, ambitious people clamoring to join you than to have them seeking desperately to leave," says Newt Gingrich in his latest book. "However, this opportunity requires a level of honesty from our political elites that they have not delivered. There has been more demagoguery and less honest dialogue about immigration than about any other topic in the last six years."

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"Our current immigration troubles are almost entirely problems of success."

This is an appeal to our vanity, and I don't buy it. Every Western European country, in addition to Canada and Australia, is experiencing high levels of immigration from Third World countries. We are not special in this regard. Our country is prosperous because we are who we are. The same is true of the other countries I mentioned. Third World immigrants come here because we allow it. Let's get serious about what is really happening here.

Posted by: Hal K on January 17, 2008 05:15 PM

Gingrich, "Current Immigration Problems Due to Americas Success."

I really don't know what to make of this statement. It is like saying the current situation in your home, which one hundred people have started to live in, is due to your success. Huh!

Posted by: Bobby on January 17, 2008 05:31 PM

Gingrich is onto something this has something to do with intellect and ability, (Dr. Watson) an anthropologist will tell you the same thing, you dont see industrial bases in Africa except in South Africa and Rhodesia and we know who built those

Posted by: impeachbush on January 17, 2008 07:09 PM

Newt, illegal immigration is not about culture or even language. (Though it would be nice if new immigrates would try to learn English). Illegal immigration is about labor markets. The flood of illegal workers is driving down wages and benefits for Americans. This is just what business Republicans want, lower wages, so they can make more money. Ronald Reagan was no better at enforce the immigration law than any of other do nothing presidents we have had. Ronald Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 and the Republican party have sold us down the river.

Posted by: Jeff on January 17, 2008 07:31 PM

Illegal immigration is not about culture or even language. (Though it would be nice if new immigrates would try to learn English). Illegal immigration is about labor markets. The flood of illegal workers is driving down wages and benefits for Americans. This is just what business Republicans want, lower wages, so they can make more money. Ronald Reagan was no better at enforcing our immigration law than any other of our do nothing presidents. Ronald Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 and the Republican party have sold us down the river.

Posted by: Jeff on January 17, 2008 07:35 PM

From the full story: [I owe a lot to Helen Krieble and the Krieble Foundation for their groundbreaking work in listening to the American people and trying to find a solution that meets our values and would be acceptable to the vast majority of Americans. Republican congressman Mike Pence deserves a lot of credit for working with the Krieble Foundation. Had President Bush worked with Congressman Pence and Republican senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, there might well have been a successful immigration reform bill in 2006.]

I would like to remind everyone that Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison just gutted the Border Fence provisions of the bill after the American People demanded the double-layered fence be built. As far as Congressman Mike Pence’s “plan” to broker a deal you can read about it in FAIR’s archives here:

http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/amnesty_bill_condensed.pdf?docID=1081

Gingrich’s editorial sounds great until you wash the pig’s face; this oinker (editorial) is all dressed up with lipstick and a dress! This sham is constantly foisted upon the unsuspecting American People with the exception of the readers of this site and a few others. President Bush, the political elites and slave operators are praying we’ll eventually marry this beast and learn later what happened!! I just can’t believe that people in the higher echelons of power are unaware of what it is they’re asking us to accept. Could they truly be that stupid?!! I think not, this will not end in a good way for this country unless real patriots are elected.

God Save America! Stay Vigilant!!

Posted by: United Statesian on January 17, 2008 07:55 PM

It is all more spin to cover up how close to the brink of disaster we are in- Gingrich is covering his ass like all the other globalists who have sold out America for personal gain. Just like the O'Reilly spin for the Bush criminals- there are new jobs being created (never mention they don't begin to support a person-let alone a family) so the economy gloomy news is all manufactured by the Bush bashers- also people are still buying (never mind they are hopelessly in debt). America is like a lion kill- the prey animal (America) was brought down by the lions (the globalist corporations) and they feasted on the best parts- now the remains are left to the vultures (the illegals) to pick it clean. Gingrich has also left this lion kill well fed.

Posted by: Future Day Laborer on January 17, 2008 09:13 PM

It would be even better if Americans had the economic opportunity to have larger families for themselves instead of importing bodies. Ameicans have been bamboozled for a generation into having smaller families -"population replacement"- and women have been hornswoggled by the Feminazis to believe that being a housemaker is somehow demeaning to them and they can only be fulfilled by acheiving in the business community.

Posted by: arthur on January 17, 2008 09:22 PM

Newt must be drug induced! He lost it and left office and needs to stop making a fool of himself. V

Posted by: Vickie on January 17, 2008 10:05 PM

Come on Newt, our problem is caused by self serving politicians refusing to enforce existing laws after taking an oath to enforce them.
If Americans were as well informed in 1986 as they are today they could of dealt with the illegal problem then instead of Americans being saddled with supporting 30 million illegal welfare sponges today.

Posted by: jmac on January 18, 2008 06:52 AM

Bull.
The problem is caused by traitorous politicians refusing to do their job.
Article 4. Section 4 of the Constitution

Posted by: jmac on January 18, 2008 06:54 AM

"this opportunity requires a level of honesty from our political elites that they have not delivered"

Yup. Every time we have tried to bring up the subject they just refer to the "immigration debate". The immigration debate has been a mechanism to make the people think something might happen while they go on immigrating and talking, immigrating and talking.....

If they were honest, they would have overridden the American people and passed new mass immigration laws twenty years ago. Instead, they have relied on illegal immigration, counting on amnesties to force it down our throats.

Methinks that Newts "opportunity" is probably his need for perpetual growth. I figure the leaders of China must laugh themselves to sleep every night, watching us doing everything we can to create the same mess here that they are trying to escape from over there. I am guessing they would dearly love to be back at a population of 300,000,000. Thanks for your "leadership", Newt.

Posted by: James on January 18, 2008 07:29 AM

AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO NOT VOTE FOR McCAINE OR HUCHABEE, THEY WILL SELL THIS COUNTRY TO ILLEGALS AND TO ALL THIRD WORLD PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE, VOTE FOR THOMSON OR ROMNEY, THEY WILL SAVE AMERICA FROM THE DESTRUCION AND THE THIRD WORLD INVASION!!!!!

Posted by: jack on January 18, 2008 10:12 AM

Illegal immigration is not about culture or even language. (Though it would be nice if new immigrates would try to learn English). Illegal immigration is about labor markets. The flood of illegal workers is driving down wages and benefits for Americans. This is just what business Republicans want, lower wages, so they can make more money. Ronald Reagan was no better at enforcing our immigration law than any other of our do nothing presidents. Ronald Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 and the Republican party have sold us down the river.

Posted by: Jeff on January 18, 2008 10:43 AM

Illegal immigration is not about culture of even language. Illegal immigration is about labor markets. The flood of illegal workers is driving down wages and benefits for Americans. This is just what business Republincans want, lower wages, so they can make more money. Ronald Reagan was no better at enforcing our immigration law than any other of our do nothing presidents. Ronald Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 and the Republican party have sold us down the river.

Posted by: Jeff on January 18, 2008 11:05 AM

THE CURRENT IMMIGRATION WOES ARE DUE TOO THE CORPORATE SLAVES IN CONGRESS, AND THE GREEDY CORPORATE SLAVE MASTERS SELLING OUT AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, FOR CHEAP ILLEGAL ALIEN LABOR!

Posted by: American Me on January 18, 2008 12:30 PM

I really don't care what the so-called reasons are for illegal immigration. It just needs to stop and we need to concentrate on the fact that mexico is not our friend and it is one country that we are very foolish to trust. As of December 2006 there were 2.5 million people held in our nearly 5,000 prisons and jails in the US. A 2005 report of the International Centre for Prison Studies done in London said the US with 1/20th of the world's population housed 1/4 of the world inmates. The US incarceration rate is now at 714 prisoners per 100,000 residents or almost 40% greater than our nearest compeitors--the Bahamas, Belarus and Russia. The US incarceration rate is 6.2 that of Canada, 7.8 times that of France, and 12.3 times that of Japan. The US spends $200 billion annually on law enforcement and corrections at all levels of government, which is a fourfold increase over the past quarter of a centruy. 1/3 of inmates in State prisons are there for violent crimes like homicides, rape and robbery; but 2/3 are for mainly property crimes and drug offenses. Between 1980 and 1997, the number incarcerated for drug offenses increased elevenfold and most of the drugs in this nation come from that corrupt, parasitic country--mexico. How much money is sent to that country via remittances? How much money is spent trying to fight their illegal drugs and incarcerating those addicted to those drugs? Why in the world should we give them our jobs when US citizens live homeless and our wages have decreased at least 8% due to illegals being hired over US citizens. At what point do we step back and look at what we are losing to this "nation" and I do use that term loosely. They are the worst and our incarceration rates are so high because they don't occupy a border with any of the countries mentioned above. I find mexican government officials in our country acting as foreign agents and being allowed to do so almost an act of treason against US citizens. We pay and pay and pay over and over again simply because the elites of mexico want to squeeze us like the lemons and limes they squeeze over their tequila. I am sick to death of this being the debate--it is the responsiblity of the US to fix mexico. No, it is not. We need to get them all out of here and show them some truly tough love. I would love it if Americans would just stop doing drugs. That would cripple their economy and they would be forced to deal with the corrupt culture they are fighting to very hard to hold onto at every level and spread as far as they can. I wonder if Canada would tolerate what we are forced to tolerate. All this money we spend and mexico just keeps getting worse? Time--it is beyond time--to cut our loses and keep them out of our lives anyway we can.

Posted by: jaded on January 18, 2008 06:55 PM

Jeff, You forgot Carter and Clinton and they were not Republicans.
Don't forget Carter gave away the Panama Canal on top of it all. Now the Chinese control both ends of it.

Posted by: marg on January 19, 2008 02:37 AM

IF HE'S REFERENCING IMMIGRATION 50-100 YEARS AGO, IT IS ALL PIG'S LIPSTICK HOGWASH TODAY

Today we're full in America, we have 300M cramped/crumpy Americans. Back then we needed workers for our growing manufacturing sector.

We have no manufacturing sector today, just more service sector jobs that are dwindling away fast [especially the pay] and an exponential growth of unemployed legal American youth, with way too many college degrees in this decrepit "dumbed down overpopulated" economy!

Posted by: Softwarengineer on January 19, 2008 03:17 PM

After reading Newt's entire article - I'm confused by some of the comments here. I want the borders closed, I want English as our official language and I want an employer verifcation system. All these things he advocates....

Posted by: CHogan on January 20, 2008 11:55 AM

Newt is another Neocon poser. On one side of his mouth he talks tough on immigration and border security. On the other side of his clap trap, he will be at a Raza convention promising amnesty or supporting other politicians that advocate open borders/ invasion agendas that are orchestrated by his true overlords, the CFR. Newt knows enough about how MSM can manipulate the public through soundbites and empty rhetoric and he uses the media to his advantage.
Newt, like so many other RINOS has lost his respectability to most people who have really looked into him. NEVER TRUST A CFR MEMBER!

Posted by: fornax2 on January 21, 2008 01:11 PM
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Mexico's Interference in U.S. Immigration Policy Continues

"If you're a regular reader of my blog, you know I have written countless times on the incessant meddling of the corrupt government of Mexico in the internal affairs of the United States and, moreover, that I have pointed more than once to the growing, far-flung network (and its sinister influence as a "Fifth Column") of Mexico's Consular offices, both stationary and mobile, here in our country. Indeed, the influence of Mexico in all avenues of American life has become pervasive. But the patent, utter hypocrisy of Mexico increasingly knows no bounds and this story, published at Examiner.com, should further unsettle American citizens already disgusted with the Bush administration's refusal to take Mexico to task for its unabashed insinuation into U.S. domestic affairs," says A Certain Slant of Light.

The Examiner story reported that, "A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora [Mexico] traveled to Tucson to make the case against Arizona's new employer sanctions law,The lawmakers say it will have a devastating affect on the Mexican state."

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WOULD THESE CORRUPT MEXICAN HYPOCRITES JUST SHUT THE H*LL UP ALREADY... IF THEY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR CRIME INFESTED CESS-POOL OF A COUNTRY, HALF AS MUCH AS THEY STICK THEIR NOSE IN OURS, MEXICO WOULD BE BETTER OFF.

Posted by: American Me on January 17, 2008 04:14 PM

I'm for cutting off all relations with this parasite nation. Yesterday would be a good time to do it.

Posted by: Bobby on January 17, 2008 05:32 PM

We should close about 90% of the Consular offices currently in the United States. Se should allow one in Washington, D.C., one in Houseon, Texas, one in Salina, Kansas and one in San Francisco. Close the rest of them and tell them to go back to Mexico and straighten out THEIR country and leave OURS alone!

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on January 17, 2008 05:58 PM

We should close about 90% of the Consular offices currently in the United States. We should allow one in Washington, D.C., one in Houston, Texas, one in Salina, Kansas and one in San Francisco. Close the rest of them and tell them to go back to Mexico and straighten out THEIR country and leave OURS alone!

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on January 17, 2008 05:58 PM

Far better them than us! It's about time Mexican authorities took care of their own. We are not, and never will be the Welfare country for Mexico's uneducated and unskilled masses. When any country or politician thinks people from a foreign country should take precedence over American citizens, it's time for that country to get the hell out of our business and the politician supporting them should be fired. That's the dilemma we in Texas are facing. We have two of the worst illegal alien ass- kissers in the Senate. John Cornyn, and Kay Bailey Hutchison, book ends when it comes supporting illegal aliens, and the special interest groups trying to fatten their wallets with extremely low wages.

Posted by: Bob Hubble on January 17, 2008 06:19 PM

Is there a mailing or email address for the president of Mexico? :-)

Posted by: Dave on January 17, 2008 06:29 PM

I'd like to get a valid snail-mail and/or e-mail address for the president of Mexico :-)

Posted by: Dave on January 17, 2008 06:31 PM

in case you havent noticed the Mexicans coming here are the Incas and the descendents of those whose women were taken by the conquiscadors, the Mexican eltes like the Arab Carlos Slim (SALAM) are the biggest racists

Posted by: impeachbush on January 17, 2008 07:12 PM

I'm sure Mexico doesn't and wouldn't entertain members of the Guatemalan or Honduran governments making such a case for their citizens in Mexico. Heck, for that matter the ILLEGAL ALIENS attempting to travel north via Mexico are routinely shot at and imprisoned under harsh conditions. Such hypocrites!!!

A parable in the Bible speaks of a good master who forgave his servant all his debts. The servant thanked his master and later came upon a man who owed him very little. This wicked servant had him imprisoned until the debt was paid in full. Hearing this, his master reassigned his debts and dealt with him ever so harshly.

Mexico, you've earned and deserve your cesspool!! If the American People have their way you shall be dealt with harshly. Facing the wrath of your own citizens after the United States close our borders!!

Posted by: United Statesian on January 17, 2008 08:31 PM

Let them cry. They only succeed in angering those would otherwise not care.

Posted by: Rey on January 17, 2008 09:47 PM

If they would spend the time fixing their own country, they wouldn't have to worry about what we are doing in ours. I find it interesting how the media just doesn't cover such things as they are so busy trying to prove to the nation that a liberal is going to be the next president. Americans are finally not going to mexico as tourists due to the violence. We need to boycott every product that country makes, just so they will understand that they don't dictate to us. Talk about totally being unaware of what boundaries mean. There will never be a United States of America that will hitch itself to the nightmare that is mexican society. Get over it why don't you and leave us alone. We don't want you hear meddling in our lives, our society and our nation. Take care of your own and while you're at it--take them all home and take the garbage you have left along our border with you. That is how much they respect our country when they dump on it when they first enter it.

Posted by: jaded on January 17, 2008 09:47 PM

Please call the Mexican consulate in your local area and ask them for a Mecixan ID. Then explain that to them that you are moving to Mexico and want information on where to get a job when you get there, how to obtain mortgage in Mexico, how to enroll your children in a Mexican public school, where to sign up for food stamps and how to obtain unemployment and wellfare. Also be sure to ask what the penalty is for not paying federal taxes in Mexico and how to wire money back into the US.

If everyone in the US called this week it would tie up their resources and they wouldn't have time to help the illegals in this country.

Posted by: HAD IT on January 18, 2008 12:28 PM

Usually I sit in shock and stifled anger at Mexico's latest assault upon US sovereignty. Today I say BRING IT ON. In the article, Mexico states that it will defend through its consulates any Mexican affected by the Arizona law that punishes employers who hire undocumented migrants.. Read that Illegal aliens. In order to sue in the US courts, the party pursuing remedy must have "standing." There must be a legally protected interest that is concrete and particular." Inspite of the efforts of the illegal immigration and open borders lobby, illegal aliens do not have a legally protected interest. They are not even citizens remember? So as not to get too legalistic, I call standing the "None Of Your Business Rule." If my parked car is hit, I can sue the driver. However, my neighbor cannot do so no matter how much he or she "may feel my pain." Applied to this situation,such suit would concern matters between the employer and the state. Neither the illegal immigrants nor Mexico would have a place. If Mexico bankrolls a suit for illegal immigrants unable to work under the Arizona law or any other, they will be in for a shock. Even the most blatantly biased judge would have to dismiss the suit or risk being impeached or recalled. If he ruled otherwise the matter would go all the way up to the US Supreme Court. It would probably be fast tracked. The article also states that Mexico considers migration an unavoidable phenomenon. Since when? Eisenhower put an end to it for over thirty years. The article further states that Mexico opposes tightened US controls such as the border fence. It wants work visas for those who seek to come and amnesty for those here. The treacherous sellout members of the US Congress could not get Mexico what it wanted and neither can the Mexican lackey US president. Now I have just covered three branches of the US government. Inspite of the corruption that we are dealing with primarily on the national level, the pressure being brought to bear by big business, and the very well-financed open borders/illeal immigration lobby; the people still rule. The people will keep fighting for their country because they love it and want it back, God bless the American spirit and God bless the United States.

Posted by: Hessie L. Harris on January 18, 2008 01:26 PM

I'D ADD THIS TO ALL THE WONDERFUL VENOM I READ ABOVE

If Mexico's opinion was so terrific and we should follow their lead; we'd end up like them.

In the 3rd world sewer.

Posted by: Softwarengineer on January 19, 2008 03:21 PM

Hessie L. Harris, excellent points. Thank you, and yes, God bless this country.

Posted by: Bobby on January 20, 2008 01:13 AM
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Maryland Gov's Reversal Another Sign That Politicians Can't Ignore Public Opinion

"Another liberal Democratic governor has backed off an illegal immigrant-friendly challenge to the new federal Real ID law. Yet in their coverage of Gov. Martin O'Malley's (D-Md.) reversal, the Baltimore Sun and Washington Post failed to note how drastic the Democratic governor's reversal was, nor to consider if low polls numbers and public disapproval were driving factors for the change of plans," says Ken Shepherd with Newsbusters. "While the low poll numbers alone may not explain O'Malley's 180-degree turn, it's hard to believe they are not a relevant factor, particularly if O'Malley and Democratic legislators started to get angry phone calls from voters already giving the Gov little love in the polls. After all, this is a political minefield for liberal Democrat politicians, as Hillary Clinton's ensnarement on the issue last year can attest. Clinton backed Gov. Spitzer's plan to issue licenses to illegals. Days later Spitzer reversed himself and noted public disapproval of the plan as a key factor in his change of heart."

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I find it apallng that all these politicians are elected by the people to serve the people but give the people the finger when it comes to serving the people. Instead they cower to big business and snub the popular opinion.

This is not the first (and probably not the last) governor to flip off the public opinion and do whatever they want. These are the politicians who should be thrown out of office!

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on January 17, 2008 12:25 PM

MAYBE SO, BUT THE CORPORATE SLAVES IN THE U.S. CONGRESS SURE IGNORE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.

Posted by: American Me on January 17, 2008 03:06 PM

be wary watch this guy, he is doing bait and switch once a liberal always a liberal

Posted by: impeachbush on January 17, 2008 07:14 PM

OF COURSE THE OPEN BORDER NUTS HAVE TO BITE THEIR LIPS AND EAT CROW

As we enter 2008's Recession and jobs get scarcer and scarcer with Greespan's prediction of stagflation (this is far worse than depression alone) too; the last thing any American will want to hear is, "we're adding more immigration overpopualtion to compete with you in the dwindling American job markets"....ask Michigan!

Posted by: Softwarengineer on January 19, 2008 03:28 PM

DemiRats suck up to Illegal Invaders all the time and many Repuks too! Bunch of DAM TRAITORS!

Posted by: Critter on January 22, 2008 09:37 AM
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Raid on DC DMV Office in License Investigation

"Federal authorities raided the Georgetown branch of the D.C. Department of Motor Vehicles yesterday and arrested an employee suspected of illegally selling driver's licenses, District officials said. The employee was one of six people arrested yesterday on charges involving the illegal production of documents, FBI spokeswoman Debbie Weierman said. One of the six is a juvenile, she said," the Washington Post reports. "Yesterday's instance was not the first in which FBI agents have raided the city's DMV satellite office at the Shops at Georgetown Park. Three times between August 2003 and August 2004, authorities arrested and charged DMV employees with running scams."

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people caught doing these type of criminal activity should be deported citizen or non-citizen. If citizen deported to their ancesters country.

Posted by: rudy on January 17, 2008 02:11 PM

Gee, the California DMV offices would be a full time job for the Federal authorities. You have to live here to believe what goes on.

Posted by: Bobby on January 17, 2008 05:34 PM

Bobby the same goes on all over the US and yet the American people willfully signup for the useless war in Iraq while ISLAMIC terrorists and Latino gangsters come here, call your governor

Posted by: impeachbush on January 17, 2008 07:16 PM

AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO NOT VOTE FOR McCAINE OR HUCHABEE, THEY WILL SELL THIS COUNTRY TO ILLEGALS AND TO ALL THIRD WORLD PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE, VOTE FOR THOMSON OR ROMNEY, THEY WILL SAVE AMERICA FROM THE DESTRUCION AND THE THIRD WORLD INVASION!!!!!

Posted by: jack on January 18, 2008 10:18 AM
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Rising Immigration in a Time of Economic Decline

Ira Mehlman, National Media Director for FAIR

While attention to immigration policy in the U.S. has been exclusively focused on the illegal variety, passing almost unnoticed is the spike in legal immigration. Invariably, almost apologetically for taking a firmer position against illegal immigration, politicians, pundits and others add that they favor legal immigration. It sounds nice, but it is really just a throw-away line that has no thought behind it.

We're all in favor of legal immigration as a concept, but rarely is anyone asked to define the legal immigration system that they profess to support. How much legal immigration? What criteria should be used for selecting immigrants? Who should legal immigrants be entitled to bring with them? These are not insignificant details; rather they go to the core of what legal immigration is about.

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US Citizens come 1st not foreigners!

Posted by: Critter on January 17, 2008 10:00 AM

Wise counsel from Ira Mehlman. We as a nation do a poor job of thinking things through and assessing consequences to actions. We simply do, and the guy who expresses concerns is generally dismissed as a "loser" who's not "with the program." So we get a tech bubble, a housing bubble, and an immigration bubble, too. I don't think we can absorb so many people into our infrastructure and society. I've met a number of immigrants over the past 10 years who feel little or no affiliation with me and even talk to me as if I'm the foreigner, not them. One immigrant from Hungary and his wife from India once told me "Funny, you don't look like an American at all. You're rare in this country." It's a very odd and stupid policy on the part of the United States to batter its own citizens with lost jobs and the cost burdens of immigration while welcoming newcomers as the New America. Sick, really. Our country needs a shrink.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen on January 17, 2008 11:16 AM

I have heard most of the mainstream presidential candidates claim that they are going to "fight for the middle class".

A question I would like to ask them is: then why are you replacing the middle class in the workplace AND taxing the middle class to provide generous social services to those replacements?

Posted by: Bill Dexter on January 17, 2008 11:40 AM

I haven't seen "Vish" post anything here in a while. The last time I saw something by him he was bragging about how an Indian had designed the stealth fighter. I wonder if his absence could have anything to do with that Indian engineer who was indicted maybe a month ago for selling stealth secrets to the Chinese.

Yes, of course, legal immigration levels are much too high. The politicians carry on about how we are to become energy-independent, yet invite millions to come here an live. It really goes way beyond stupidity.

Posted by: James on January 17, 2008 12:37 PM

These are scary times, we have lost controll of our own government and so MANY people care but don't vote. It's a mess and I think it's only going to get worse. America's life's blood is being sucked dry by Americans. It's sad but true.
Anyone who would vote for mr amnesty I don't even consider "American", he would be shot back in the day along with most of congress!

Posted by: Rob on January 17, 2008 12:52 PM

Here in the Phoenix area a television show popular in the 90's called Touched By An Angel is being brought back for another run but with a new title. It will be called Touched By An Illegal Alien- based upon the serial illegal alien rapist -twice deported, but only finally recently jailed. The third world is alive and thriving in the Phoenix area. Our stiffly worded employment sanction bill has been delayed till March (and probably longer).States like Arizona have been reduced to lawless territories and the American citizens living there are mere colateral damage in the eyes of our corporate ruled federal government.

Posted by: Future Day Laborer on January 17, 2008 12:58 PM

Something really stupid just hit me!

With this being a year of various secondary elections - Oh! And a Presidential Election! - why don't we have the voters decide on the illegal immigrant situation.

Since our "elected leaders" can't come up with a viable solution why can't we, the voters, decide for them. We should have it on an individual state referendum so that those states who wish to disobey federal laws can be segregated and properly denied federal funding.

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on January 17, 2008 02:03 PM

Future Day Laborer - I understand that Mexican lawmakers are in Arizona today demanding that the sanctions be removed. Their reason? They say they cannot take care of those who will be returning to their country. Well, that's tough! We can't take care of them either. We don't ask that vile country to take our people. Has anyone in Mexico got any sense? I believe the criminal mindset is born in them. I hope the lawmakers are laughed all the way back to their country.

Posted by: June on January 17, 2008 02:14 PM

IT`S ALL GONNA COME TO A HEAD REAL SOON...

2nd CIVIL WAR!

Posted by: American Me on January 17, 2008 03:02 PM

Americans are lazy and illegals work hard and work cheap. I own a company and have all illegal employees. Now i am making lots of money and the illegals are being paid $2.50 an hour and i give them no breaks but i still deduct money out for a lunch. Hey i like money the hell with them they are happy just to be in the United States. they love this country and do not want to go home . I hope they get the amnesty they deserve. I know i will have to give them at least a nickel raise if they get the amnesty but thats ok i will find another way to get it back from them. Any how god bless America and George Bush

Posted by: ILLEGAL ALIEAN LOVER on January 17, 2008 03:34 PM

James you post story about few spy people to raise fear. You use spy fear as excuse keep all smart asian out. You afraid compete. You are coward. Every person look at you trade defecit. China own you now. Our product + skill support you easy lifestyle. You get fat from rest of world and then dont want compete for job. You can not make rules now. New rules coming soon.

Posted by: LChen on January 17, 2008 03:54 PM

Rising Immigration in a Time of Economic Decline

Sounds like a Perfect Storm to me.
I have no idea how bad things will get when the breaking point is reached. (any day now, it seems). All I can be sure of is that the "humanitarians" who caused this will only wring their hands and curl their lips and say that it was all the fault of us "xenophobes".

Posted by: Angus MacLeod on January 17, 2008 04:09 PM

"Since our "elected leaders" can't come up with a viable solution why can't we, the voters, decide for them. We should have it on an individual state referendum so that those states who wish to disobey federal laws can be segregated and properly denied federal funding."

Good point. State referendums are probably going to be among our most effective grassroots tools. Not only would the legislation itself be helpful, but the very process would help re-empower citizens and educate others. From what I have read and conversations with state level immigration reform leaders, the biggest obstacle is usually getting enough money to fund the project. There are a lot of expensive lawyers fees to contend with since the referendums have to pass strict legal guidelines and even then legal challenges are still are concern.

Whatever the cost, it is worth it. The dedicated efforts by volunteers in Arizona, Colorado, and Georgia and other states to organize residents of their states into action have provided us with important lessons.

Onward!

Posted by: Cynthia on January 17, 2008 04:59 PM

I've already held the opinion, many years ago, that whatever groups are responsible for the massive LEGAL, immigration to the United States are traitors to the best interests of the citizenry and should be jailed. I don't care who it is. Churches, lobbyiists, politicians, business leaders, makes no difference.

Historically, this nations immigration was about one hundred and fifty thousand people a year. Now it is one Million or more each and every year. Add to this fact that we are in a depression and you tell me what the meaning of allowing one million plus people to enter this nation could be.? No nation in the world does this, because they obviously don't have as many traitors as this one does. Anyone who tells you its about altruism is full of a certain substance you find in horse/cow,etc. fields.

Whether it is churches, lobbyists, any of the groups I mentioned above, they all have an ulterior motive, atruism on their part has nothing to do with it. For example, I've never noticed the Catholic Church, which I belong to, bring in immigrants and then send them to another denomination. Tens and twenties are the denominations most churches are interested in. Everyone has a selfish motive. I don't care if this steps on some sacred cows, honesty is what this nation and world is extremely short of nowadays.

Posted by: Bobby on January 17, 2008 05:26 PM

too bad that president BUSH TRAITOR could care less while he is oogling with the ARAB TERRORISTS

Posted by: impeachbush on January 17, 2008 07:18 PM

I don't think there are enough people who read this blog to "raise fear" about anything.

Posted by: James on January 17, 2008 08:02 PM

BAN ALL IMMIGRATION--LEGAL AND ILLEGAL.

There is no real difference between the two. An alien who comes here takes away jobs from native born americans, causes congestion, causes a water shortage, food shortage, land shortage and adds to our population burden. He/she increases demand for goods/services but reduces demand for labor, causing higher prices and falling wages, squeezing the blood of american citizens.

Immigration is america's cancer and there is only solution--ban it!

Posted by: Jameson on January 17, 2008 08:52 PM

Cynthia, You are right but the open borders politicians still have us covered. As soon as they get an amnesty scam passed on a national level, all the work done by people on the state level will be washed away, and we will be saddled with the overriding Federal scam.

Rise and Shout
Throw all the Traitors out
Starting with John "Amnesty" McCain

Posted by: jmac on January 18, 2008 06:42 AM

COMMENT:
WAIT UNTIL WE VOTE FOR SENATORS.

IT WILL BE A WHOLE OUT LOOK.

Posted by: SUSAN MARIANO on January 18, 2008 06:58 PM
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