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November 07, 2007
Democratic Pollsters and Strategists Lay Out Immigration Plan Leading Democratic pollsters and political strategists Among the heavy-hitters describing the approach they will be recommending to Democratic office-seekers – including the Oval Office – were Peter Bronitz of the Benenson Strategy Group; Christopher Dorval of Dorval Strategies; Celinda Lake and David Mermin of Lake Research Partners; and Simon Rosenberg of the New Democratic Network. On the other end of the line, were nationally recognized journalists including Morton Kondracke of Roll Call; Peter Walston of the Los Angeles Times;Mark Silva of the Chicago Tribune; David Brooks, columnist for The New York Times; and Jerry Kamber of Copley News Service. WE WERE APATHETIC A FEW YEARS AGO ON OVERPOPULATION But with reduced wages, ghost unemployment, a crashing housing industry, sinking dollar, massive federal deficit and a likely severe recession for 2008, overpopulation isn't a moot point anymore to Americans. Illegal Alien removal and overpopulation issues are now the Number One campaign issue for 80% of Americans, its even trumped Iraq. Wake up Democrats or kiss your jobs good-bye. Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 7, 2007 06:23 PMthis country is going to be just like China and India with to many people. Our natural resources are running out now, bit these do gooders only want more votes for their candidate abd big business wants cheap labor. Posted by: aloha on November 7, 2007 06:29 PMThese guys really don't have a clue, do they? They've been reading their own and each other's press releases for so long, and have had nice secure careers for so long, that they've long since forgotten how insecurity feels. My brother is a retired factory rat from GM married to an Hispanic woman (born here). He is a Democrat and adamantly opposed to illegal READ THE FULL POST OF THIS RIDICULOUS NONSENSE. It was all left wing open border so-called journalists... Asking lame wimpy questions, and believing their own hand picked rigged polls... This is laughable, no wonder why mainstream news media is going down the toilet... It`s all one sided, the left side, and they don`t care about the American people`s side on the issues, they`ll just continue to make stuff up to fit their own left wing agenda... The MSM is a joke! Posted by: American Me on November 7, 2007 09:42 PMdid you know that a quaTER OF ALL american HOMELESS are veterasn, this should be the main recruintg tool of the US ARMY those that stupidly go and fight on BEHALF of Islam PROSPERING in america, how many MUSLIMS died in the marines, i know of a traitor wasaf ali hasum who deserted, stupid GI grunts, who die for nothing and if theu sruvive they become homless while CAIR is allowed to flourish Posted by: impeachbush on November 7, 2007 10:53 PMSoftwareengineer, I couldn't agree more. We have droughts in 36 states, declining water tables, declining snowpacks and of course declining fossil fuel resources. Overpopulation, ironically, will lead to our deaths (perhaps in the next generation or two). Certainly the death of the U.S. Posted by: saxa on November 7, 2007 11:53 PMDimwits will lose 2008 Election! Cause they are out of step with the Public at large. Bottom Line people are tired of the BS! 2008 is make or break election for OUR COUNTRY! Posted by: Critter on November 8, 2007 07:27 AMI have a question. Is FAIR supporting the SAVE act? It has alot of bipartisan support. I wonder if they pass it, if they will actually enforce it. I wanted to know FAIRS opinion on this bill. I found the info. on this bill at numbers USA. For God's sake someone has to curb this bologna going on. My daughter goes to school in a modular now as our small city in California has been over run by illegals. I do not have any insurance and I go to the local clinic where I have to wait behind tons of illegals who are pregnant just to see the docotr. They tried to pass a bill in the Bakersfield area cracking down on illegals and of course it was not passed. I, like all of you want my country back, now!!! Posted by: Louou on November 8, 2007 10:00 AM????? THEIR PLAN IS NO BORDER SECURITY OR INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT... THE DEMO-CREEPS JUST CUT THE 3 BILLION FOR BORDER SECURITY THAT PASSED 95 TO 1 IN THE SENATE... IT WAS FOR THE BORDER FENCE, MORE BORDER PATROL, AND MORE DETENTION BEDS... THIS IS THE DEMO-CREEPS STRATEGY, OPEN BORDERS, NO ENFORCEMENT, AND TO HELL WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!
Just another Congressional ploy - all words and no action - in an attempt to look good for the 2008 elections. It all comes down to President Bush's lack of willpower to enforce current immigration laws and go after illegal alien hiring employers - something no one in Washington, D.C. will do. All of these spineless elected officials need to be voted out of office - an electoral bloodbath should wake them up. Posted by: American Me on November 8, 2007 12:13 PMSAVE ACT LOOKS GOOD SO FAR TO ME Its got about equal support from about 90 Dems and Reps; and no amnesty. Just illegal American employer and illegal alien enforcement. Period. Lou Dobbs interviewed Congressmen Bilbray (R) and Shuler (D) yesterday and these fine Congressmen passed on the following, re: SAVE: "...WIAN (on camera): The U.S. Chamber of Commerce says it needs time to study the SAVE Act before it takes a position on the bill. A Malldef (ph) representative said the same thing. And the National Council of La Raza, Lou, did not return our calls. DOBBS: Well, can -- you know, we can wait and see how they're going to feel about all of this, but meanwhile, let's move ahead to the law itself and see what's going to be done. Casey Wian, thank you, sir. Joining me now, the two congressman who introduced the SAVE Act, the authors of this bill, Congressman Heath Shuler, Democrat, North Carolina, Congressman Brian Bilbray, Republican, California. Gentlemen, good to have you with us. SHULER: Thanks, Lou. BILBRAY: Thanks for having us. DOBBS: I don't know about other folks but when I hear bipartisan these days, I reach for my wallet and start looking for a foxhole. Is this the real deal? SHULER: It really is, Lou. I mean, we've worked very hard together. It's been about a six to seven month relationship, bipartisan relationship where we've been able to work with members on both sides, ask law enforcement, ask the Border Patrol agents what is important for them and most importantly is listen to the American people and ask them what they're wanting for when it comes to illegal immigration. And we've been able to put a very good bill together. It was brought by 90 original cosponsors, 46 Republicans and 44 Democrats. BILBRAY: In fact, remember in this town, four of the opposite party or seven of the opposite party makes it bipartisan. This one is 40 and 40. This is a package I think you haven't seen very often in this town. DOBBS: No. Absolutely not. Also, I haven't seen much in the way of anything to do with borer security that isn't attached to amnesty, some sort of fancy spin that suggests that it's simply a loss leader for corporate America and the socioethnocentric interest groups that are driving much of what's happening in your time. Let me show you, though, also what happened with Roy Blunt, your whip, Congressman Bilbray. Here is what he had to say. He said, "The bill introduced today isn't terrible. It's just insufficient." Now what does that mean? BILBRAY: Well, I am sure he would have loved to add more onto it but the fact is this - I think you're going to see, Roy, support this bill in the end, you've already seen some of his very close allies and just announced they're signing on and I think you're going to see a real consensus of people joining on. I think the big question is going to be when everybody goes back to their district, why haven't they signed on to 4088, why aren't they part of a team and I think that both Democrats and Republicans are going to be coming on because I think this is a bill that reflects that America wants, not the Washington elite here and the special interests in DC. DOBBS: Gentlemen, I've got to ask you, Congressman Shuler, you alluded to it. Congressman Bilbray, both of you. What's wrong with that town when 90 congressmen suddenly want to represent the interests of the American people, the will of the majority? Have you people lost your minds? SHULER: I'm really hoping that along with our 90 other cosponsors, original cosponsors, we'll be able to increase that number over 100 in a very short couple of days. Someone has to stand up. Far too long, people go to Congress, they come to Washington, they stop listening to the American people, they stop listening to their constituents. But we've been able to lead the way along with our original other cosponsors, to lead the way in saying we are listening to the American people. We listen to what Lou Dobbs has to say. DOBBS: Well, I appreciate that and I think most Americans appreciate it. But there is such - there is such, and again, Congressman Bilbray, you refer to this. I mean, we don't trust our government in our country or right now. As you well know, there's never been a great disconnect between the folks we've elected to serve the public interest and the folks. Is this going to happen? Will the Democratic leadership which has pushed on Capitol Hill for comprehensive immigration reform, i.e., amnesty by any definition. They're really going to let you move this legislation ahead, gentlemen? BILBRAY: Lou, you watched Brian Bilbray and Heath Shuler get elected and come to Washington. We were sent to Washington to do things differently. And frankly I think Heath knows that his constituents, I know my constituents expect me to do more than what the leadership in either party was willing to do or what this town wants done and we're basically making the system work and that's - represent the people that elected us, not the people back here in DC. DOBBS: Well, gentlemen, you are blazing a new path in that town, at least a new path over the course of the past 20 years. We're all wishing you all the very best. We thank you very much. BILBRAY: Thank you, Lou. DOBBS: Congressman Shuler, Congressman Bilbray, thank you very much. SHULER: Thank you for everything you're doing Lou. DOBBS: Thank you...." The rest of the URL: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0711/07/ldt.01.html wont pass and even if it does BUSH traiotr will veot it like he does for everything else. Posted by: impeachbush on November 8, 2007 08:33 PMJust two days ago, Mort Kondracke had an editorial in RollCall putting out the same old Karl Rove line that anyone who opposed the will of Hispanics, by not promoting amnesty and open borders, would be voted out of office. It was a collection of misrepresentations, half truths and outright lies. http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/4095.html My question is: does anybody still listen to guys like Mort? If not, how do they stay on the air or in print? Are they just saying what their employers pay them to say? Does anybody still take the MSM seriously? Posted by: Stuart on November 9, 2007 12:30 PMJust two days ago, Mort Kondracke had an editorial in RollCall putting out the same old Karl Rove line that anyone who opposed the will of Hispanics, by not promoting amnesty and open borders, would be voted out of office. It was a collection of misrepresentations, half truths and outright lies. http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/4095.html My question is: does anybody still listen to guys like Mort? If not, how do they stay on the air or in print? Are they just saying what their employers pay them to say? Does anybody still take the MSM seriously? Posted by: Stuart on November 9, 2007 12:31 PMMorton Kondrake, is about as useless as useless can be, when it comes to anything he writes on illegal immigration. He would sell out his grandmothers wheelchair out from under her. He might as well go over to the other side. Posted by: Bobby on November 12, 2007 04:31 PMVideo: FAIR's Ira Mehlman on Drivers' Licenses for Illegal Aliens Ira Mehlman articulated many sound and logical reasons why illegal aliens should not be issued driver's licenses. Great job. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on November 7, 2007 06:42 PMyes i am sure luis gutierrez and xavier becerra will be convinced, no theyt wont since democracy is not the solution it is the problem Posted by: impeachbush on November 7, 2007 11:08 PMWHAT part of ILLEGAL! don't they GET! They are either TRAITORS or MORONS! Take your pick! Posted by: Critter on November 8, 2007 07:30 AMKeep up your great work and check out End Game by Alex Jones, illegal's are being used as Weapons to remove our Rights and our freedoms, in fact all illegals are WMD'S. Posted by: Fred Dawes on November 8, 2007 04:49 PMTHANK YOU FAIR FOR YOUR GREAT WORK Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 8, 2007 05:07 PMHalloween Party Stalls Myers' Nomination for ICE Undersecretary "Sen. Claire McCaskill moved Tuesday to block a confirmation vote on EVERYTHING IN THIS PC INFESTED COUNTRY IS RACIALLY OFFENSIVE. LET`S SEE WHAT FAMILY MEMBER WILL GET HER OUT OF THIS, LIKE SHE GOT HER JOB. Posted by: American Me on November 7, 2007 12:57 PMThat woman is a joke. She needs to retire from government -- we need people who are able to conduct humane, just work. We don't need someone torturing people. Posted by: giggles on November 7, 2007 01:09 PMThis looks like another example of political correctness gone too far. If Ali G does this sort of thing it's considered funny. Maybe they didn't want to say anything at the party because they were afraid he really was "African American." We have to stop making such a big deal about these little gaffes. As the recent Jena and James Watson episodes show, the PC crowd will take as much as we are willing to give them, and then some. Posted by: Hal K on November 7, 2007 02:57 PMAMEN TO THAT AMERICAN ME... P.C. NONSENSE RUNNING AMOK! Posted by: Independent on November 7, 2007 05:18 PMTHE RIGHT ACTION AGAINST THIS SELECTED DIRECTOR/MANAGER, FOR THE WRONG REASON In this case, I'm for the ambiguos PC hogwash against her. Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 7, 2007 05:53 PMgood since this woman accepted an award from HAMAS in DEARBORNISTAN, while young white GIs die in vain. Posted by: impeachbush on November 7, 2007 10:55 PMPlease just appoint me for 6 months! I will get it going,believe it! I'll take half the pay. I would probably be assasinated after a month,cause the ones soft on Illegals would be drawing unemployment.Take it to the BANK! It ain't Rocket Science no matter what they say! Posted by: Critter on November 8, 2007 07:35 AMThe ICE princess is a joke...another Bush cronie who was unqualified for the job. We don't need lap dogs, we need strong supporters of the rule of law, ready to enforce our laws and secure our borders... Julie Myers, ain't it... Posted by: takn on November 8, 2007 11:21 AMI'll vote for Critter and help to 'get the job done'! Border Apprehensions Continue To Drop "A large increase in Border Patrol agents, additional fencing and expanded ACCORDING TOO WHO, THE LYING OPEN BORDER BOOSH ADMINISTRATION... WOULD ANYONE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE SKULL... HE`S JUST ANOTHER BOOSH STOOGE WHO HAS LIED IN THE PAST. Posted by: American Me on November 7, 2007 01:01 PMGee, we've been told the fence wouldn't prevent illegals from breaking in. How about that? It DOES work. Now, let every law eforcement official do his duty. Protecting lawful citizens is their job. We need protection from illegal aliens. Then, crack down on business. Heavily fine them for hiring illegals. Restore the 14th amendment to its original purpose, and immediately cut off all benefits. Poof! They're gone. Posted by: June on November 7, 2007 02:08 PMIf U are not REALLY trying to catch an illegal alien no wonder your apprehension count will go down. LOOKING the other way is NO effective Border protection. JMO. Posted by: Macman on November 7, 2007 03:49 PMHOLD YOUR HORSES, THERE MAY BE SOME TRUTH HERE FAIR reported a significant drop off in money laundering to Mexico recently and the housing industry in America isn't running on all eight lately with illegal alien slaves getting laid off. By the way, the American unemployment number doesn't track illegals. When America's dollar plummets and the semi-skilled jobs dry up; they stop coming? I hope so! Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 7, 2007 05:59 PMFences work. Former Mexican President Vincente Fox was in the northeast PA, promoting his book, I guess, and spoke at Wilkes College. He strongly criticized a fence and any attempts to stop Mexicans from coming to the U.S. Fortunately, I understand he was met with some loud protests outside by Voices of the People. The citizensvoice.com did carry the story, if it's still on the website. Posted by: Born American on November 7, 2007 06:25 PMof course the numbers fell since we have people with names like luis garcia etc. in charge of preventing people with names like Garcia from coing here Posted by: impeachbush on November 7, 2007 10:57 PMMy next door neighbor just lost his job. His company is looking to hire Mexican's via outsourcing. Just in time for Christmas. What a country. Lining the pockets of the wealthy is what it's all about. The rich get richer at the expense of the lower and middle class displaced American worker. First of all my question is - Why do America's legislators accept the blame for "separating families" on behalf of me and you? The illegal aliens choose to come here illegally, some with their families, others without their families. It's their choice. The funny thing is we all know it. The question is just a diversion. A way to guilt us into shutting up. It's not a legitimate argument, just a way of turning the table, getting us to defend ourselves. The best defense is an offense built on falllicy. And it works like a charm. Everyone starts focusing on the "how can we separate families?" question while they keep on coming. Why isn't anyone asking the government of Mexico what they can do to improve their economy so that their citizens don't have to make a choice that could result in separating their families? Because we make it so easy for them to point the finger at us. We gladly take on the responsibility of taking care of everyone, everywhere. Meanwhile, in case you haven't noticed- we are in deep doodoo. Our economy is quickly fading fast. We used to be the leaders in industry. What do we produce? Very little. These people who protest in American cities should try it in Mexico. Why don't they? The Mexican government is corrupt, but Geraldo doesn't want to talk about THAT.
The excuses made by business owerns are that Americans are lazy. Americans don't want these jobs. Well, Americans used to. Of course that was when they got paid enough to actually live and raise a family here in the USA. That was before the illegal alien rotation-vacation came into play in the United States workplace. Jorge and his cousin Julio will do the same job for less pay, work 12 hours a day and not ask for vacation, sick days, healthcare or a 401K. Why would they? They get the 4 month vacation while their cousin fills in for them and vice versa. They take all their American pay back to Mexico and can live like a king for 4-6 months. Then they come back all nice and rested up ready to do the 12 hour shifts for 6-8 months until the next vacation-roatation. An American living and raising a family here gets to work 365 days a year. What's his incentive for taking that job? Nothing. What does he get for passing on it? A reputation for being lazy. It's a set up. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Not to mention the big sucking noise when the businesses went south of the border thanks to Bill Clinton and his great NAFTA plan. There went a whole bunch of jobs. Courtesy of the American greedy business owners. When will our leaders care about Americans again? Maybe when it cuts into their budgets, or THEIR pay. We the people of the United States of America (legal citizens) need to have a few protests of our own and request that our leaders stop selling us out. Posted by: Melanie Cupp on November 8, 2007 12:35 AMI am always skeptical when I hear stuff like this. Until our borders have a fence the entire length, until our agents are not prosecuted for doing their jobs, until we have interior enforcement w/ teeth, I doubt that this is really anything more than lip service... I received an Email from FAIR stating that the senate is FAIR's Latest Study: Illegal Immigration Costs Tennessee $300 Million "A new report puts a price tag on how much illegal immigrants cost Tennessee taxpayers. LAZY @SS AMERICANS COST AMERICA BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR WITH ALL THE FREE TIME Softwarengineer AND If the useless politicians actually did something about illegal immigration, cities and towns wouldn`t be going bankrupt... But they would rather pander to the illegals, then take care of the citizens... It`s pathetic! Posted by: American Me on November 7, 2007 01:08 PMWE'RE BROKE AND WE'RE FULL Imagine taking that $3B in Tennessee alone and using it fund math and science for our legal citizens and pay to get bachelors of science teachers back in public schools again. We need to do this first before we spend a penny on foreigners and illegal American Slave Lord Employers. Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 7, 2007 02:38 PM"LAZY @SS AMERICANS COST AMERICA BILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR" Alas, it's true. Easily, the worst example of American citizenship is that of the subsidized. The hostile sense of entitlement and complete lack of any sense of responsibility is enough to drag a country down. Add to that the third world flood and the cost of IT'S subsidy, and we are on the fast track to poverty. And so I worry - once the illegals get the amnesty they so deserve - what will happen to them when THEY are replaced by the NEXT wave of illegals? Posted by: Bill Dexter on November 7, 2007 03:47 PMSELL-OUT POLITICIANS IMPORTING POVERTY AND THE STATES AND THE CITIZENS END UP PAYING THE PRICE! Posted by: Independent on November 7, 2007 05:15 PMwell you "patriotic" americasn should stop standing up for the us anthem during NASCAR races and take off those flags off the back of the pick up truck. Posted by: impeachbush on November 7, 2007 11:04 PMIt's so refreshing to see the "comments" of those who have nothing better to do than bash those of us attempting to equalize the playing field for both legal immigrants and citizens alike. Contrary to your beliefs impeachbush and bushlover, our victories will help your sorry asses as well. Posted by: takn on November 8, 2007 11:19 AMLook at Tucson AZ that is a Hot Bed of Anarchy and should have funds halted and City Officials Hung for Treason. We may have to drive these people into the Pacific Ocean! When do we start? Posted by: Critter on November 8, 2007 01:09 PMMy opinion is this Report is as good only as good as the Mass Media reports about it. You might as well use it for as a coffee table book piece. The media will always be bias and counter any negatitive impacts about illegal immigration, as highlighted in the news article by Mr. Yuri Cunza, president of the Nashville Area Hispanic Chamber of Commerce: "If Tennesseans are spending million to educate illegal immigrants is that really a bad thing?" The challage is for the good people of Tenn to write Letter to the Editor on WHY is it a really bad thing." Call your local paper and ask why are they only reporting one side of the story. Where is the fairness doctinrine when you need it? As much as folks are callling the Senators - we need the same focus with our local media.... Posted by: peter on November 8, 2007 05:12 PMI THINK WE SHOULD TRY AND DO SOMETHING TO OUR IMMIGRATION PROBLEM VERY SOON WE SHOULD PUT POLITICS ASIDE AND THINK SECURITY AND BRING THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THE SHADOWS. LETS DO SOMETHING NOW. Posted by: FRANK on November 8, 2007 10:36 PM |
laid out the party’s strategy for addressing the immigration issue in the upcoming 2008 elections to some of the nation’s top journalists in a telephonic news conference today. 
Julie Myers, the nominee of the administration of President George W. Bush for the top immigration enforcer. McCaskill, D-Mo., said she was acting because of questions raised about Myers' role in a Halloween contest in which an agency employee wore a racially offensive costume," the Post-Dispatch reports. "Myers heads the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency as a recess appointee of Bush and is awaiting Senate confirmation. She was a judge at last week's contest in which the employee was recognized for having the 'most original' costume: a prisoner with a black-and-white striped outfit, dreadlocks, and bronze makeup on his face, according to Kelly Nantel, an agency spokeswoman [. . .] McCaskill said the Halloween incident confirmed her belief that Myers should not run the immigration agency."
prosecution of illegal border-crossers contributed to a 20% drop in apprehension of undocumented migrants this year at the U.S.-Mexico frontier, immigration officials announced Tuesday. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the figure signaled progress in disrupting illegal immigration flows, a key goal of the Bush administration's overall immigration strategy," the LA Times writes. "Along the Southwest border, apprehensions over the past year decreased in almost every area -- most dramatically in Yuma, Ariz., and Del Rio, Texas, where arrests fell by more than 45%. Near Tucson, the country's busiest illegal immigration corridor, apprehensions dropped 4%, from 392,074 to 378,239, according to recently released data for the 2007 fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30."
It is close to $300 million every year, according to the study conducted the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a nonprofit research group. It contradicts a report by the state comptroller's office released in August that indicated undocumented immigrants boosted the economy and did not take jobs from any Tennessee workers," reports WVTF-Nashville. "The cost is $255 million each year for education from kindergarten through the twelfth grade and ESL programs. Martin estimates an additional $30 million is spent on healthcare and incarceration, bringing the total to $285 million."
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