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November 02, 2007
James Carville: "This Is A Real Wedge Issue That Democrats Need To Get Right" "The centrality of illegal immigration to the current discontent about the "Attention, Republican candidates. This is opportunity knocking," says National Review's Jim Geraghty. Republicans need to hammer home the pro-illegal alien stance of the demo-rats... They pander to the pro-illegal crowd every chance they get, and want to give the illegals everything, for cheap votes... This is a tatic that will hurt the dems, because they run away from this issue every chance they get... It`s probably thee number one issue for the majority of voters, and the demo-rats don`t want to touch it, they`ll just keep talking out both sides of their mouths! Posted by: American Me on November 2, 2007 12:58 PMSOME OPEN BORDER NUT DEMOCRATS IN SEATTLE NOW CALL "OVERPOPULATION" IN AMERICA A CONSPIRACY THEORY With the housing bubble popped and prices dropping like a rock in America, my retort back to that type of phony liberal Democrat, "If you call yourself a liberal Democrat and don't believe in massively depopulating America right now to save the environment, its clear you aren't an intelligent liberal and your IQ is low; therefore, I recommend that you go out and buy a big house right now as a great short term investment." Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 2, 2007 01:56 PM"SOFTWARE" is right. The current crop of "liberals" have Duh, James Carville is such a genius. Posted by: Bobby on November 2, 2007 04:18 PMI wasn't aware that that James Carville was still with us. Interesting coming from Carville, maybe his right-wing wife and oppositional tv political pundit, Mary Matalin, explained to her hubby that the 'xenophobic' or 'racist' rhetoric coming from the Dem leadership was backfiring. Did you catch the part about pushing a plan that "creates a path for citizenship for the law abiding"? I noticed this new tactic being heavily touted in my local newspaper last year as the solution for illegal immigration. It sounds appealing on the surface but ignores the likely deficiencies in a system that attempts to determine criminality for ten of millions (also, imagine all the loopholes, like the one the Senators proposed that would allow illegal alien gang members to promise they would renounce their ways in exhange for amnesty). And, of course, as I constantly harp, if the American public opposes the NAU and regional government supplanting national sovereignty, then any massive amnesty just puts us one step closer to that reality. My gut tells me a full disclosure to the public of the planning for the NAU and its ramifications is the true Achilles' heel for the open borders crowd. What Carville might have to say about regional government is more important than his admission that immigration reformers have legitimate concerns. Posted by: Cynthia on November 3, 2007 12:03 AMNo one who is here illegally is "law abiding", having broken one law to sneak in here and another to stay here, and breaking the latter again and again every singe day he/she stays. These people are ruining our environment, taking our jobs, burdening us with their care, over-crowding our neighborhoods, ER's, schools, and prisons. It isn't hard to imagine how much all these situations would be improved if all the illegals along with all of their "anchor babies" went back to what ever country they came from. Posted by: Joy on November 3, 2007 12:33 AM
Does he mean that if illegal aliens were all of the same race as a particular American citizen then the citizen would not mind being taxed to provide illegitimate public services to them? I sincerely doubt it. But maybe what Carville is saying is: "In order to raise concerns about the political impact of the illegal immigration issue on Democratic politicians I need to assuage the radical left by making the obligatory smear against immigration reform advocates as being racist. Posted by: lance sjogren on November 4, 2007 08:13 PMIts nice to know there is always someone (liberal (progressive)) who is willing to peer into my brain, determine my motives (racist), and decide my right to respresentation should be suspended. Posted by: James on November 5, 2007 07:25 AMGO OUT ON TUESDAY TO VOTE LOCAL, AND THROW OUT EVERY PRO-ILLEGAL ALIEN, PANDERING, SELL-OUT POLITICIAN IN YOUR DISTRICT! Posted by: Independent on November 5, 2007 02:21 PMWhen Bill Clinton was running for president, he went around the country saying he was "fighting for the forgotten middle class -- those WHO PLAYED BY THE RULES AND GOT THE SHAFT." Well Hillary, your support of drivers licenses for illegals proves that you want to REWARD those who have NOT played by the rules and who are hurting the American middle class (those of us who do not live "behind the gates"). We the people are not going to let Hillary get away with such blatant pandering and hypocrisy. If she wants to be pro-middle class, then she MUST really oppose amnesty and drivers licenses for illegals. p.s. Call the Senate: NO AgJOBS Amnesty!! Posted by: populist on November 5, 2007 02:45 PM"I'm pretty sure I saw something a few weeks ago that indicated that Matalin is an open-borders Republican." By my estimation would that would put Matalin in the neoconservative camp. I've noticed that neoconservatives and neoliberals are generally very compatible bedfellows, sometimes literally. Matalin + Carville Schwarzeneggar + Shriver Heinz + Kerry Bush Sr. + B. Clinton Murdoch + H. Clinton
carville is a clinton crony who cares what he has to say he looks like a neo nazi if you ask me , but we americans who want ot enforce our laws are called the bigots , what a stupid country, bring down BUSH Posted by: impeachbush on November 6, 2007 09:42 AMHillary has two high-ranking campaign advisors directly from the National Council of La RAZA. She and Obama have early on said that one of their first priorities if elected president would be to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Enough said, that alone proves neither is worthy of their current office and certainly not worthy of being elected the President of the U.S. Perhaps they'd be better off running for office in let's say, Mexico! Posted by: contessa on November 6, 2007 11:11 AMStates Increase Crackdown on Illegal Immigration "Minor traffic violations do not usually warrant a press release from a ". . .the actions are unfairly harrassing and intimidating both illegal and legal immigrants." Aside from the lapse in logic that a law designed to detain illegal immigrants could unfairly harrass or intimidate illegal immigrants, the question of 'harrassing' legal immigrants does remain. So let us think. A) not hang around with them Apparently, this is not an easy question. Posted by: Bill Dexter on November 2, 2007 12:12 PMGREAT NEWS!... IT`S WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT... IF OUR USELESS SELL-OUT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON`T DO ANYTHING, THEN LET THE STATES DO IT! Posted by: American Me on November 2, 2007 12:51 PMTHE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED TO DO THE JOB; THE STATES ARE MORE CAPABLE Its time to call in the volunteer Minutemen and get a real fence built. We'll get 1000 times more done than the feds to date in immigration enforcement just rolling up our sleeves and just doing it; than more useless politicians arguing anarchy amnesty or open border courts wasting time on laws already in the books. If the open border nuts don't like federal laws enforced by States, let 'em sue the States and the States don't even need to attend the hearings. Don't pay 'em a cent either, if they lose. Think about it, what can the open border nuts do to States that do the jobs the feds are instructed not to do? That's right, nothing. Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 2, 2007 01:48 PMThis Halloween at my home in Phoenix, Arizona, USA (well, I think it was still in the USA) was a glimpse of our very soon to become future of life for we the non elite in our nation. We had one trick or treater for the first hour- just an American kid and parents taking part in an old American tradition. The next hour the trick or treaters came a little more frequently- in groups of two to three-it was something our home and neighbors homes could handle in distributing the candy to the kids. Then everything soon changed- the waves of illegals came. They came in strollers, toddlers to adults, my home and the neighbors homes were soon overwhelmed. The traditional scene of American kids trick or treating took on the appearance of a scene of refugees overwhelming a relief station at the sight of some third world catastrophe. We could not handle the situation at hand and neither could the other neighbors. We had to close up and pray our homes would not be damaged. Americans, like myself our fighting for our very survival now- we have been deserted by our government. Posted by: Future Day Laborer on November 2, 2007 01:53 PMGo Missouri! All states should be doing this. I wish California would do it. In a recent front page expose' pertaining to a day lobor facility there is a Sheriff's Lieutenant being all buddy-buddy with known illegal immigrants. Below is a link to the SACRAMENTO BEE ARTICLE. http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/457778.html They should fire her for aiding known criminals. Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on November 2, 2007 02:12 PMThe above article read like City, County, State and Government official should make illegals feels comfortable and safe while breaking our laws. Gee, who the thunk it. Posted by: mogran on November 2, 2007 02:15 PManother redneck meeting/ minute man can do nothing but wabk and drink beer and have pot dreams about white empire full of deers and white trash thanks Posted by: Tontin on November 2, 2007 02:25 PMTonto,put a lid on it, or we'll sic the ultimate Minuteman on you The Lone Ranger. Moron. Posted by: Bobby on November 2, 2007 04:17 PMYou've just got to KNOW that California was taken over by maybe a half million illegals voting to elect the largely Hispanic legislature. It is not impossible that some activists vote 8 or 9 times in the long election day. There are only about 200 really common Spanish names in use, because their were originally only a few European families that gave their family Surnames to the campasinos in the villages they owned or controlled. With so few names, it is easy as hell to pass one person off as another. This is an INVASION--EN MASS by political shock troops! But...but...we can't round them all up... You don't have to. You cant help but trip over them in the course of your normal law enforcement day. How about we start processing the criminal aliens that just fall into our laps. A couple of months ago I got stopped in a "sobriety checkpoint". No probable cause. But, that's "okay" to detain and search law abiding Americans. Somehow it is not ok to detain criminal aliens. Note: they didn't check licenses so I could have had 15 illegal aliens in my car and they would have just sailed through the checkpoint. Time to review our priorities. Tell Gov. Rell, CT. (no I hadn't been drinking) Posted by: arthur on November 3, 2007 06:19 PMThe FRAMERS of the fourteenth Amendment actually [A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word.
It is perfectly clear that the mere fact that a man is born in the country has not heretofore entitled him to the right to exercise political power. … I have supposed … that it was essential to the existence of society itself, and particularly essential to the existence of a free State, that it should have the power, not only of declaring who should exercise political power within its boundaries, but that if it were overrun by another and a different race, it would have the right to absolutely expel them.
I do not know that there is any danger to many of the States in this Union; but is it proposed that the people of California are to remain quiescent while they are overrun by a flood of immigration…? Are they to be immigrated out of house and home by Chinese? I should think not. It is not supposed that the people of California, in a broad and general sense, have any higher rights than the people of China; but they are in possession of the Country of California, and if another people, of different religion, of different manners, of different traditions, different tastes and sympathies are to come there and have the free right to locate there and settle among them, and if they have an opportunity of pouring in such an immigration as in a short time will double or treble the population of California, I ask, are the people of California powerless to protect themselves? … As I understand the rights of the States under the Constitution at present, California has the right, if she deems it proper, to forbid the entrance into her territory of any person she choose who is not a citizen of some one of the United States. The intent to allow states to act is clear (A.S.) Posted by: Allan S. on November 3, 2007 10:03 PMto Bill Dexter: ACLU you mean MCLU. The ACLU gets donations every year to defend everyone but Americans , usually their major donations come at Christmas a holiday which they also oppose. Unfairly harrassing my a$$! It's past time to clean up our country and if we don't have people in office who will do it, we need to purge the halls of Congress of the impotent bodies that continue to pander to illegals and their ilk! Investor Visa Program Going Strong "An obscure immigration program is pumping millions of dollars from "In Seattle, critics have complained that revitalization of an area south of downtown has raised rents for industrial tenants. But the program hasn't drawn notable criticism from immigration-restrictionist groups. 'If jobs are being created in exchange for visas through a process you can verify, I don't think we can object to it,' says Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which calls for a clampdown on both legal and illegal immigration. But he suggests that the program should 'remain small in scope.'" THE FULL STORY URL ABOVE REQUIRES A SUBSCRIPTION TO THE WSJ I didn't pay to subscribe to the open borders WSJ, but will comment on this article. I agree with FAIR that adding local jobs with wealthier immigrants in small numbers is positive. Numbers USA has a good rule: we have 200,000 leave America each year, so let in no more than 200,000 and we effectively control immigration. Making these job creation immigrants part of the 200,000 makes sense. Posted by: Softwarengineer on November 2, 2007 05:15 PMTo say the least it is monies cxominf into the community. I’m very skeptical of this program. What assurances do we have that the jobs created by these foreign investors will go to U.S. citizens and not to H1B slaves or illegal aliens? Also, what’s to stop the foreign investors from sending the jobs overseas once they get their precious greencards? Instead of allowing foreigners with questionable motives to buy our assets and control our industries we should be providing ladders of upward mobility and opportunities for our own working class citizens to become successful investors. americasn invesnted the plane, bulb, cotton gin, assembly line etc, we dont need some NIGERIAN like in Missouri, last week article to make jobs we ned to allow real americans to go to college without going to iraq and stop the islamic infestation Posted by: impeachbush on November 6, 2007 09:44 AM |
direction of the country may be taking us back again to a welfare moment. Just as many workers with moderate incomes, uncertain employment and health insurance could not understand why they were being taxed to subsidize the long-term idleness of those on welfare, many Americans are just perplexed that this country has lost control of the borders and winks at illegal employment, taxing the resources of local schools and hospitals and much more. Many of the voter responses to welfare were racist to be sure, as now with the response to illegal immigration, but many are not," says a strategy memo from James Carville and other Democratic consultants. 
governor. But when state police stopped a van on a Missouri road for 'following too closely' and found it was carrying 10 presumed illegal immigrants, Gov. Matt Blunt was quick to tout the incident as part of a new state program to hunt down undocumented aliens," Reuters reports. "Missouri's efforts are among several now being seen around the nation as state and local officials race to make their territory as unappealing as possible for the nation's estimated 12 million undocumented individuals. The campaign has drawn the ire of religious organizations, civil rights groups and some employers, who argue the actions are unfairly harassing and intimidating both illegal and legal immigrants."
foreign investors into dilapidated inner cities and employment-starved rural areas across the U.S. These investors aren't focused on financial returns, however: They're in it to get green cards . . . The program, administered by U.S. Immigration & Citizenship Services, essentially encourages wealthy foreigners to buy their way into the U.S. Put in place in the early 1990s, it is widely regarded as a response to efforts by Canada and Australia in the late 1980s to attract investors keen to immigrate. But the U.S. program is considered the most stringent because it requires proof that the investment has produced new jobs before permanent residency is granted," the Wall Street Journal reports.
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