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October 19, 2007
Immigration Issues Highlight Thompson Campaign Trip Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson breezed through metro Atlanta ahead of a rare line of thunderclouds Thursday, brandishing his conservative credentials and accusing GOP rivals Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney of favoring "sanctuaries" for illegal immigrants. In a brief interview, Thompson also addressed questions that some conservative Christian leaders have raised about his religious convictions, and work he once did as a lobbyist for an abortion rights group," the Atlanta Journal Contstitution reports. From the article: "Thompson said he didn't favor tougher penalties for businesses who employ illegal workers." "Both campaigns accused Thompson of casting a 1995 vote to preserve welfare benefits for illegal immigrants, and a 1996 vote against an employee verification system." We also know that Thompson hired open border advocate, Spencer Abraham, as his campaign manager. It is good to read that Thompson is educating the public about attrition, but is he sincere? Given his political record and his Washington connections it seems far more likely he is simply posturing to pull prospective voters away from Dr. Paul. Giuliani's law firm is representing the Spanish company constructing the NAFTA transportation corridor. Romney's son has given a testimonial for his father in Spanish. The LDS leadership, not unlike the Catholic church, supports the open border agenda.
Cynthia, "only Tancredo and Paul can be taken at their word when they say they want to secure the borders....". Don't get me wrong, I support Tom Tancredo and send donations to his campaign, as often and as much as I can. However, I want to ask, why you didn't mention Duncan Hunter? He and Tancredo are the only ones that really follow up their words with action in Congress and real efforts to change the abuses of the liberal open borders advocates. Like standing up for the border agents, coming out against the Mexican trucks, illegal drivers licenses, the executions style murders of the college students by illegal aliens, ect. Ron Paul does not really fight for any of the things he talks about that I have noticed. Do you know something that I do not about Duncan Hunter, that you do not like? Does anybody on this blog? Based on what I know, I like Duncan Hunter better than Ron Paul. Posted by: marg on October 20, 2007 04:10 AMWe have few candidates who actually tow the line when it comes to standing up for us and supporting a real end to illegal immigration. It is unfortunate that they are considered less than suitable for the presidency. I have no illusions that the GOP nominee will be a waffler like the rest... Posted by: takn on October 20, 2007 11:00 AMONCE AN OPEN BORDER NUT, ALWAYS AN OPEN BORDER NUT Its like a severe alcoholic getting paid by big business to drink, they never quit, just go into denial. Posted by: Softwarengineer on October 20, 2007 03:17 PMALL THESE GOP CANDIDATS TALK ABOUT THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS BAD BEFORE AN ELECTION, BUT WHEN THEY WIN THEN " HELL WITH THE MIDDLE CLASS !" AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO NO VOTE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO PROMISE MORE ILLEGAL AND MASS IMMIGRATION TO AMERICA, VOTE FOR THOSE WHO REALLY WANT TO STOP THIS MASS AND ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. DO NOT GIVE UP, AMERICAN PEOPLE, SAVING YOUR COUNTRY AGAINST THE THIRD WORLD INVASION!!!! Posted by: jack on October 22, 2007 08:49 AMReps. Tancredo, Hunter and other Republican members of congress need to tell Mrs. Pelosi that they will support her on impeachment of Pres. Bush. This pogrom on the border is a high crime and misdemeanor. Only when Mr. Bush is threatened with impeachment by his own party can this quickly stop. Posted by: Gary Conrad on October 22, 2007 12:01 PMMarg, you are absolutely correct and thank you for pointing out my oversight. I was very remiss to not include Duncan Hunter. He certainly is to be applauded for his resolute efforts to address the immigration problem. Unfortunately, both Hunter and Tancredo are polling very low right now in polls of Republican voters. With the corporatocracy aligned against the likes of Hunter, Tancredo, and Paul, and the average American confused by the media fog, we really don't have a snowball's chance in Hades of getting a "top-tier" presidential candidate who is an avowed supporter of national sovereignty and the Constitution. The aforementioned candidates know this and it is likely the reason they often decribe their candidacies as a way to spread a message or spark real debate. Notice that the MSM has been willing to report inflammatory remarks by Tancredo but they ignore condemnation of plans to permanently open the border under a North American Union. The MSM is constantly trying to portray illegal immigration as an economic good, those who oppose massive influxes of immigrants as xenophobic nativists, and do everything they can to avoid the logical connection of immigration as a tool to undermine representative government and national sovereignty. It appears that immigration reformers have sucessfully educated the public on the first two items and we must focus our attention on waking up the public to the third and most far reaching aspect. I noticed this weekend that several news reports featured Romney's win in the relatively small Values Voter poll, yet they have been eerily silent on the impressive results Ron Paul received in several straw polls and the astounding influx of money his campaign has received from small donors. If the media had to fairly report political issues we would already be riding a revolutionary wave of natonal populism and an outsider or consortium of outsiders would be certain to gain control in 2008. That is precisely why those who have worked so long to prop up the status quo will pull out all the stops and use the media to defeat any real political alternatives. This also why change has to come from the bottom and work its way up. We must have the tenacity and clarity of mind to ride this thing out. While I fully understand the low probability of making inroads on the national political scene, I also think the time is long overdue for Americans to shake off decades of media backing for a public consciousness mired in 'learned helplessness'. Thanks again, Marg, for your helpful and perceptive comments. Amnesty Supporter Martinez Out As RNC Chair Mel Martinez, the public face of the Republican National Committee as its general chairman, announced Friday Maybe a palace coup is taking place within the GOP. I sure hope so. I bolted the GOP a number of years ago after I decided (from working in huge, inefficient and ruthless multinationals) that private enterprise needs management vis-a-vis the society that allows corporations to exist. I also felt utterly abandoned by the GOP and had, by GOP if not entirely Democrat standards, some more progressive views on various issues. Now if Hillary and the Democrat Party at the national level don't get real tough on immigration, I want a party for which I can vote, and it may not be my Democrat Party in 2008. No amount of promises of responsible government will fly with me if I can't even find work because employers can match jobs to immigrants at will. Are you listening, DNC? Posted by: Concerned Citizen on October 19, 2007 05:08 PMAll I can say is "GOOD NEWS and GOOD Ridance!". This man was not looking out for the best interest of this country. For that matter neither is the President. Too bad Booosh doesn't step down also. Posted by: MIKE on October 19, 2007 05:10 PMgood lets get a real republican like buchanan in that position Posted by: impeachbush on October 19, 2007 05:28 PMThis jerk has been one of the main reasons the GOP has raised so little money...unless you count those BUSH PESOS I sent them a few times!!! Now if only they can get him RECALLED that will be a good startI think Bush is working to get Hillary elected. I'm glad to see him go. although do have a lot of respect Good ridence to Mr. Martinez. He'll need to spend his remaining time in Congress digging himself out of he hole he jumped into as a supporter of amnesty. Posted by: Horace on October 19, 2007 08:11 PMWe need to consider this another small victory! And now we need to hope the RNC will choose a leader who is ready to help stand up for America and demand secure borders and enforcement! info@gop.com Mailing Address: IMMIGRATION OVERPOPULATION HAS BEEN ON A LINEAR GROWTH WITH DEMS/REPS SINCE THE REAGON AMNESTY BILL IN 1986 Both parties front runners for 2008 are two wings of the same turkey!!! At least Nixon admitted overpopulation is the most severe problem facing the earth, these buffoons act like its hopeless, so just give in. Posted by: Softwarengineer on October 20, 2007 03:13 PMIs there any way we can deport Martinez back to Cuba? Posted by: Deporter on October 22, 2007 06:01 AMYea, we get rid of Martinez and we will probably get that Lindsey Graham puke to replace him Posted by: jmac on October 22, 2007 06:34 AMConcerned citizen doesn’t like it that employers can match jobs to immigrants at will. Why shouldn’t employers be able to hire immigrants when they want to? It’s a global economy, stupid. You nativists are a bad joke. You’re just too weak and lazy to do the physical labor that the Mexicans are doing, and you’re too damn soft mentally to perform the science and tech jobs that the Indian and Chinese immigrants are so good at. The only thing you are good at is complaining. You think are a powerful political force, but you’re really not. You won’t last long. With the passage of time and the issuance of more green cards, you’ll wind up in the dust bin of history where you belong. I WISH SEN KENNEDY CAN RESIGN ALSO, HE REALLY SOLD THIS COUNTRY TO THE THIRD WORLD PEOPLE.....IT IS NOT AMERICA ANYMORE,BUT AMERICOSPANISH...OR AMERICOINDIANO... Posted by: jack on October 22, 2007 08:52 AMOVERPOPULATED COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA, INDIA AND MEXICO DO POORLY IN IT TECHNILOGICAL INNOVATION COMPARED TO AMERICA Here's their World Economic Forum ratings compared to America: America: 7 Almost all the top ten leaders now come from small countries that control their population and immigration (Europe). America sunk from number 1 to 7 lately, probably because we've been using more H-1Bs guest worker overpopulation lately. The illegal immigrants clogging our communities probably caused the decrease too, our quality of life in America has recently plummetted with globalism's failures. See the proof: Mexico, India and China need to control their population or they'll never catchup with countries that do. Posted by: Softwarengineer on October 22, 2007 11:28 AMPurpose Driven Exec, it's arrogant and naive people such as yourself you make the business community look stupid on immigration. Let's take a closer look at your position. "Why shouldn't employers be able to match jobs to immigrants at will? It's the global economy, stupid." When you say this, I assume you mean non-executive positions, not your position. With corporations such as multinational banks, all loaded with foreign tech workers, performing so poorly and Wall Street gurus such as Michael Metz today talking about a "radical slowdown" in the post-housing bubble economy, there's plenty of room to drastically reduce labor costs by replacing executives with cheap imported labor. That's where the fat is, after all, when CEOs of underperforming companies are still earning 400+ times the comp of average workers. Okay, so why not match jobs to immigrants in non-executive positions? One reason is technology theft, where tech firms hire someone "cheaper" who steals technology, often of national security importance, and sends it "home," making that worker in fact very, very expensive. The simplistic cost models that executives employ don't cover such factors. I know how business executives think because I was graduated from the #1 international business program in the world and worked for multinationals, and was promoted by them. I know the ropes, Purpose Drive Exec. I'm one of you, and I'm on "the other side." So truly have something to fear when your own ranks are defecting. Second, cost is not the same thing as value. A company that hires cheap drones to do repetitive tasks does not necessarily innovate, and companies with a cost mentality that fail to innovate, such as GM, lose market share and profits over time. Cost is not everything, but today's financial manager-type executives simply don't see the more sophisticated and comprehensive picture. Third, there's the economic model. Your "global economy" does not exist. Sure, we have international trade and capital flows, but David Ricardo (you ARE familiar with his work, yes?) never imagined and therefore never incorporated into his law of comparative advantage the laissez-faire economics as our models define it. So our technology has run ahead of our ability to model and manage the economy. If you want to be educated on this subject, you should read Gomory and Baumol's Global Trade and Conflicting National Interests (MIT Press: 2001). In fact, America's trading partners subsidize industries, erect tariffs, and engage in all sorts of asymmetrical economic policy while often adhere dogmatically to a "free trade" ideology. Our economic rivals, such as Japan, have strict barriers to immigration, yet often exceed our corporations in quality, profitability and market share, and they do not reciprocate our immigration policy by opening the door to American immigrants. So the best way to deal with a world that does not believe in and practice a global economy is with negotiation, which we as a country do poorly at best. On the issue of the economic model, you also fail to take into account how our model really works and how it affects consumers, who make up 80% of US GDP. Consumers and taxpayers subsidize US-domiciled corporations by building roads and infrastructure, maintaining a legal system, and protecting their assets with police, fire and military protection. Corporations are not billed for these services. So the corporations in the United States, unlike those is many developing countries, can count of political stability and certain standards only because of the American people you say can be replaced at will. Will this model work? What if the American taxayer no longer support scorporations because s/he can't due to underemployment, or simply refuses to? And what is the American consumer is squeezed to the point s/he can no longer buy the products that corporations wanting to match immigrant to job want to sell? The answer was in the news today: "radical slowdown." Additionally, you fail to understand the radical, neo-gramscian Marxist implications of mass immigration and the effect it will have on executives such as yourself, your families, and your corporate assets. Check out FAIR's reading list and do additional research if you want to become sophisticated on this issue. (Immigration reformers) are "weak," lazy" and "soft mentally." If after reading my previous comments you're still feeling cocksure and strident, I probably can't help you, but suffice to say our movement is growing and YOU are going into the "dust bin of history," as you've checkmated yourself, although you're not smart enough to realize it. As the CEO of a corporation that grew over 100% last year, I work seven days a week, I'm smarter than business hired hands because I have to be, I'm certainly neither weak nor lazy. Now stop your intellectually laziness, be strong, and crack those books, Purpose Driven Exec, because in the New World that's coming, you'll need to be up to speed. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on October 22, 2007 01:20 PMPurpose Driven, You couldn't be more wrong. There are more than enough Americans willing to work hard labor jobs for a decent wage. Illegal aliens have done nothing but drive down the wages of every job area the've infested. Meat packers were makeing $18 to $20 an hour 20 years ago. Today they make $9.00 an hour and illegal aliens are the blame for this and it's the same for construction and other labor intensive feel. The biggest lie I keep hearing is how builders do this to save cost to building so they in turn can pass those savings to us. This is nothing but a total lie. Name one time where the savings on payroll by hiring illegal aliens was ever passed on to the consumer. All it amounts to is even bigger profits to the business owners who hire illegal aliens in place of American citizens. Brian Posted by: Brian on October 22, 2007 02:22 PM |
he was stepping down from his post after serving only 10 months . . . By tapping the Cuban-born Martinez to be the party's public persona a year ago, the White House had turned to a lawmaker who has been a staunch supporter of the president, including on the issue of comprehensive immigration reform, including a guest-worker program. Martinez served as Bush's secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 2001 until 2003, when he resigned to run for the Senate seat left open by Democratic Sen. Bob Graham's retirement," the AP reports.
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