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July 05, 2007
Video: FAIR's Jack Martin Debates Steve Moore July 3rd Right now a number of industries are in death spirals insofar as American labor is concerned, but restricting this corporate free-for-all for labor will give Americans an opportunity to adjust and retrain themselves. Right now, American college students are avoiding tech and engineering degrees like the plague, and it will take time to undo the damage that this open border/corporate profits-first ideology has created. In the past, when I learned a foreign language (I'm fluent), learned sophisticated mathematics and physics related to financial products, learned data analysis and technology/software, I found that my skills had a less-than-2-year half-life because employers are so quick to lay off junior staff to boost their short-term earnings ... suddenly I had to retrain myself at high expense. It's no secret that Wall Street gutted its junior ranks and now has a self-induced shortage of rising talent. I eventually said enough's enough and started my own business, but once again I find systemic barriers against me, not to mention the debt associated with graduate school and its aftermath that I still have, now almost 15 years after earning my 2 graduate degrees. This gentleman from the Wall Street Journal has simply no idea what's it's like to not be on the board of an elite institution looking down. From my vantage point, looking up, although I likely have far more skill than this man, I was born in the wrong year and I can't even get traction in this economy. If tomorrow someone said I needed to learn a new job skill to take a position somewhere, I'd be reluctant frankly because it's so easy for that gig to get taken away, too. The only way to survive in this economy, from my point of view, is to continue forward as CEO of a small business and do my best. The arrogance and lack of insight at the top of this economy is truly frightening. No one here is anti-foreign. I couldn't care less that Eastern Europeans are doing summer jobs, but first we need to find American college students to do them. Heck, I'd do a summer job if I weren't so strapped down with obligations at this time. You can't tell me that in a country of 300 million we can't find young people to do many of these summer jobs, but the businesses will have to stop sitting on their hands, go out and actually find them. A college student in Ohio is not going to even see the ads in the SouthHampton papers. That's why we need a national database to advertise all jobs nationwide. As we saw after the Swift meat packing plant raids, there are lots of Americans out there waiting to be discovered. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on July 5, 2007 03:00 PMThis whole debate over immigration is nothing except corporate greed mongering at it's worst.Wide open borders,amnesty,global labor supplies,erasing of national sovereignty and the rule of law benefits whom??? The elites!! aka Those who run the media,run the political establishment,run big business,run all of the lawyer's associations etc... A great many of this people don't give a rat about our Constitution,Bill of Rights' or Declaration of Independence.They view everything in a purely globalist ideology.America has no labor shortage,we just have too many people who choose not to be productive citizens.Welfare and government services has become a way of life for many in America.These deadbeats should be required to get off of their lazy butts and get to work!! We have plenty of teens who can fill summer jobs if they can put down the video games and computers long enough to actually go out and work for a paycheck!! Our national security can't be ignored either when it comes to immigration.Look at all the problems Europe is having over there due mainly to very lax immigration laws.Do we want that mess here at home?? I think not. Posted by: Tyler on July 5, 2007 04:50 PMThis whole debate over immigration is nothing except corporate greed mongering at it's worst.Wide open borders,amnesty,global labor supplies,erasing of national sovereignty and the rule of law benefits whom??? The elites!! aka Those who run the media,run the political establishment,run big business,run all of the lawyer's associations etc... A great many of this people don't give a rat about our Constitution,Bill of Rights' or Declaration of Independence.They view everything in a purely globalist ideology.America has no labor shortage,we just have too many people who choose not to be productive citizens.Welfare and government services has become a way of life for many in America.These deadbeats should be required to get off of their lazy butts and get to work!! We have plenty of teens who can fill summer jobs if they can put down the video games and computers long enough to actually go out and work for a paycheck!! Our national security can't be ignored either when it comes to immigration.Look at all the problems Europe is having over there due mainly to very lax immigration laws.Do we want that mess here at home?? I think not. Posted by: Tyler on July 5, 2007 04:56 PMThis whole debate over immigration is nothing except corporate greed mongering at it's worst.Wide open borders,amnesty,global labor supplies,erasing of national sovereignty and the rule of law benefits whom?? The elites!! aka Those who run the media,run the political establishment,run big business,run all of the lawyer's associations etc...A great many of these people don't give a rat about our Constitution,Bill of Rights' or Declaration of Independence.They view everything in a purely globalist ideology.America has no labor shortage,we just have too many people who choose not to be productive citizens.Welfare and government services has become a way of life for many in America.These deadbeats should be required to get off their lazy butts and get to work!! We have plenty of teens who can fill summer jobs if they can put down the video games and computers long enough to actually go out and earn a paycheck! Our national security can't be ignored either when it comes to immigration.Look at all of the problems Europe is having due mainly to very lax immigration laws.Is this what we want here in America too? I think not. Posted by: Tyler Logan on July 5, 2007 05:16 PMThe WSJ mouthpiece just repeats the OBL usual talking points of jobs "Americans aren't doing" blah blah. Bottom line: our economy is NOT dependent on millions of impoverished low-skilled illegal aliens from Mexico. And if this means the children of elites have to learn how to operate lawnmowers and bus tables as I did in my younger and college years, then so be it. Posted by: Populist on July 5, 2007 07:21 PMIf you can't run a company by paying the wages necessary to attract citizens then maybe you shouldn't be in business. Your not entitled to labor at whatever you want to pay. You pay the going rate. And if the going rate is too high for you then you don't have a good business model. No one's entitled to a succesfuly profitable company. Maybe those employers could learn to live with smaller profits and smaller salaries for themselves. Boo Hoo! Posted by: Steve on July 5, 2007 10:23 PMHOW MANY AMERICANS ARE ON UNEMPLOYMENT IN VIRGINIA WHERE YOU SAY YOU CAN'T FIND ENOUGH WORKERS? IF YOU HAVE UNEMPLOYED AMERICANS IN YOUR AREA THEY SHOULD GET THE JOB OR BE TAKEN OFF PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. Posted by: CHARLES STUART on July 6, 2007 05:34 AMAs "Concerned Citizen" stated above the Swift Meat Packing plant all of sudden found willing American workers after they were raided and had to pay wages above that of an indentured servant! Steve Moore claims the workers he's addressing are not working for depressed wages. Well, we have no way of determining that if Americans aren't truly sought out and given the opportunity. An ILLEGAL ALIEN sometimes earn more than minimum wage such as in construction. Wages from $6-$12 dollars an hour, whereas the American construction worker earns $20-$30 dollars an hour. Therefore the illegal aliens and their illegal employers are depressing the wages of the American workers and have an economical advantage over his competitors, especially when bidding for contracts. The "new obfuscation" is becoming more prevalent. From "Jobs Americans WON'T do", to "Jobs Americans AREN'T doing" and now "Our economy is so strong, THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH WORKERS TO FILL THE POSITIONS. Therefore we need even more foreigners in the USA for jobs across the board". These people still don't believe the average American posesses enough mental acumen to see right through their lies. If I met this man on the street I would let him know just how big of a S.O.B. he truly is! These Unamerican Traitors persists with their insults to our intelligence. Posted by: United Statesian on July 6, 2007 12:41 PMAnd big business claims to need foreign skilled/tech workers by the hundreds of thousands. Between low skilled illegals and high skilled visa-bearing workers, what jobs are left for Americans? Government jobs, lawyers, and medical/insurance clerical drones. That's the bulk of what's there for your children and grandchildren, as the US devolves from building capital through production to living off assets saved from times past. And how does the higher education community justify its existence anymore -- we're producing far more college-educated people than our economy can put to productive use. Posted by: Satchel on July 6, 2007 03:04 PMVictor Davis Hanson: The Revolt Over Illegal Immigration "What causes this grassroots furor [over immigration], and where will it lead? Right on! Posted by: veteran on July 5, 2007 12:20 PMOUR OPPOSITION TRIES TO OVER-COMPLICATE THIS SIMPLE ISSUE We're full. Posted by: Softwarengineer on July 5, 2007 01:54 PMVictor Davis Hanson is dancing around the idea that he supports the eventual amnesty of the majority of illegals here as long as they assimilate and find various loopholes to stay. Although I don't agree with this view, it is not a completely unreasonable stance. However, it fails to take into account the larger problem of loss of sovereignty because Hanson doesn't address the issue of how a convoluted form of amnesty would facilitate the continued efforts by the NAU working groups to blend the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. Proposals by various right-leaning pundits advocating for the use of amnesty loopholes while also pushing for assimilation must also include a level of transparency of how such proposals will affect national cohesion. We should not forget the language by high ranking U.S. government officials who call for establishment of the NAU in an "evolution by stealth" manner. Posted by: Cynthia on July 5, 2007 02:07 PMSECURE THE BORDER. ACTUALLY ENFORCE CURRENT IMMIGRATION LAWS. WORKPLACE & INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT. NO MORE ANCHOR BABY CITIZENSHIP. DEPORTATION THROUGH ATTRITION. PERIOD! Posted by: American Me on July 5, 2007 03:29 PMAND NO MORE FREE GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS. Posted by: American Me on July 5, 2007 03:30 PMI read Hanson's book "Mexifornia" a couple of years ago. Apparently, both of his daughters married Mexicans, maybe that's why he advocates marrying for citizenship. His grandchildren are Mexicans, albeit with lighter complexions than the norm, so we shouldn't be too harsh on the horde of invaders. Hanson is of Swedish descent, as am I, and I wonder if it bothers him if his genetic heritage of blonde hair/blue eyes will be forever erased?. They keep importing Iraqis and other African and Asian immigrants into Sweden and the same is true for all of the formerly Western countries. I read a story a while back that blonde hair will be a vanished trait within 200 years, it will take longer for blue eyes to disappear. Hanson if you read my little post, which is quite within the real of possibility, I think you are a coward who surrendered your daughters over to an invading army. Also, population stabilization is only meant for European groups. When abortion and unborn life is treated so casually maybe we should be destroyed as a people. I used to be somewhat liberal (not anymore) and pro choice, but there is no denying that there are 40 million missing children in this country. Talk about a Holocaust. When a group stops producing invading hordes take over, these groups don't buy into population reduction and/or stability. So if the "real" Europeans, Australians and Americans want to stop having children plenty of others will step in to fill the void. Posted by: Terri on July 5, 2007 04:55 PMTerri, to add to some of the things that are happening with illegal immigrants that you write about I just read that across the nation, in whatever hospital you care to name, they receive free child delivery in the best hospital suits, free child car seats, free medicine, free follow up care by a nurse going to their residence!, and free rides home from the hospital!, free care for all their children, medical as well as dental, and much of this stuff isn't known by more than a fraction of Americans. All the while many Americans are finding it hard to pay higher taxes, and higher medical insurance and dental costs to cover the costs of the illegal aliens. It reminds me of the biblical story of the Israelites entering the "promised land", where Moses tells them, you will eat the milk and honey of that land, you will take that which was not yours, you will disposses the people of that land, etc. I am not trying to be dramatic, but you have to admit, it seems somewhat similar. Posted by: Bobby on July 5, 2007 05:52 PMI should clarify two points from my original post. First, when I said Hanson's position was not completely unreasonable, I meant that his argument might satisfy many conservatives who believe that this approach would satisfy the "rule of law" issue. However, on closer examination, his argument becomes a specious one not only because the outcome violates the true intent or spirit of the rule of law but also because of the infeasibility of carefully screening an enormous number of people with an incompetent federal government that grows more inept each day. It is essential to always factor in the utter failure of the American government to screen and monitor large numbers of immigrants entering the U.S. with valid visas. In the rush to "assimilate", we could all envision a scenario whereby a violent illegal alien gang member may qualify to stay in the U.S. through a work visa loophole but he will never admit to screeners that he is a gang member. If congress tackled the issue of whether those with criminal records or ties to gangs can stay it is quite possible a new loophole would be created and, as proposed in the recently failed Senate legislative effort, an illegal would only need to renounce his gang ties and promise to behave in order to be granted legal status or citizenship. Second, I believe Hanson is deliberately ignoring the NAU. Perhaps because he actually believes it is a workable plan? Hanson says illegal immigration comes from illegal alien employers, ethnic lobbyists, and court decisions. That is a gross understatement of the power, influence, and scope of the open borders lobby. Such limited hangouts can be dangerous because they distract the public from the most critical issues at hand.
WE NEED NOTHING LESS THAN AN OPEN AND HONEST DEBATE ON THE LONG TERM RAMIFICATIONS OF IMMIGRATION POLICY. Victor Davis Hanson, you can do better. Posted by: Cynthia on July 5, 2007 08:29 PMCynthia reminds us that: "Hanson says illegal immigration comes from illegal alien employers, ethnic lobbyists, and court decisions. That is a gross understatement of the power, influence, and scope of the open borders lobby. Such limited hangouts can be dangerous because they distract the public from the most critical issues at hand." In reality, illegal immigration actually comes from millions of people making the decision one by one to break the law, commit a crime, and violate the commands of a God they profess (as Catholics with such "strong family values") to follow. If we "plant the seeds of illegality and corruption", then what we will "harvest" are the direct fruits of this. This is both a natural and a spiritual law which will always be fulfilled. The real reason that they will not assimilate is because they know in their hearts they broke the law, that they entered criminally. They know that WE know this and, being aware of their wrongness and that we judge them for it, they feel rage and anger at what is known...that they are CRIMINAL. Have we not all known liars caught in their lie who all the more fiercely insist on their innocence? Yes, we all have. This is their state and their anger grows against the real and legal heirs of this land and its resources. They then refuse to become what they know they could have been because their unease in their hearts (although they deny this) will not go away. Now, we could, of course, amnesty them and pretend it is all okay but they will still know that the first act they committed was a crime against the land in which they now are. The ONLY way to "shut up the voice" within is to let go of that which was gained illegally...and they refuse. They cry for amnesty which will allow them to continue safely in their crime. Man's law may "wipe out" their crime but God's law demands that they repent and restore that which they took unlawfully. This they will never do. Again, it is not really the employers, the benefits, the free and available education causing this problem. It is that they each as individuals made the decision to break the law. When I was young and tried to make excuses for a wrong that I had done, my mother would say, "That may be your reason for what you did, but there are NO excuses." These people have "reasons" as does every thief, every lawbreaker, but they are without excuse. It bothers us that the first thing these multitudes offer to us in this country is a crime. Amnesty does not "fix" this, it merely covers it and denies justice to all those wronged. This immoral act committed by millions of immoral people (we are as we do) is the reason for the anger of the true heirs of this land...the native sons. It boils down to this, nothing else. They were wrong to come, wrong to continue staying, and wrong because they to do not leave. Their every step after the one crossing the border is one taken illegally. Even if amnestied, they will continue to be those who committed a criminal act. This is their history in this country. We know it and they know it. They have wronged us and the wrong is what they refuse to fix. They make excuses for it. They want it covered and forgotten. We want it judged and fixed. That and only that is the reason for the "revolt" of the Americans. The people, simply put, cry out for justice and restoration. And one other thing: regarding losing the "blue-eyed and blonde" heritage (and I fully understand this even though I am mixed blood myself!), you will find it somewhat amusing that one of my Hispanic students who enjoyed dating "white women" (as he called us), said he would NEVER marry one (dating was okay) because he wanted his kids to "look like him"! I tried to explain to him that his genes would, more than likely, completely dominate--to no avail. He told me that this mother would never permit him to marry "white"...that she did not want their line polluted. (Students are so amazingly unaware--here he was telling this to a "white" woman who was his teacher!). I had to smile--there was nothing to say. Posted by: J on July 6, 2007 08:52 AMBobby; thanks! Posted by: Kerthialfad on July 6, 2007 12:58 PMBobby, I knew this Harvard-educated doctor in North Carolina who moved to the region specifically to help Latinos at a free health clinic. Her favorite thing in life was to give illegals free goodies. She even sent her son to a bilingual elementary school so he could learn Spanish. She had her son's birthday party at a park that looked like it should have been in Los Angeles. At one point a Hispanic kid aggressively picked up a stick and started beating on one of the presents. These "do gooders" are a problem that needs to be dealt with also. Posted by: Terri on July 6, 2007 02:55 PMYou mean there are still people out there that do not know about the North American Union? That's why all the Mexicans are getting preferential treatment. If you don't know, then google "north american union " ---------------------------- "Press One For English" It got 55,000 hits this morning just from 9AM-2 PM Please pass it around. Posted by: Stephanie on July 6, 2007 03:32 PMTerri, I am laughing at what you said about the do-gooders needing to be dealt with. They will be, by the ILLEGAL ALIENS. Again, having seen too much of all of this, I am laughing at the stupidity of some of these do-gooder, Earth Mother, and Father types. It is interesting how they never seem interested in doing good in there own communities. Posted by: Bobby on July 6, 2007 04:47 PMKerthialfad, I can't think of any websites or blogs right now on all of the illegal aliens giveaways, but I assure you, these stories are all over the place and I am not exaggerating in any way. Posted by: Bobby on July 6, 2007 04:50 PMJ, these people are not just unaware they really do not care what Americans think. I have experienced this hundreds and hundreds of times with these people. Whether it's stealing shopping carts, graffiti, lying, stealing or cheating, they do not care. What makes them care is when punishment is on their horizon. Then they finally get serious. But we cannot use punishment, because dumkopf, liberal/progressives say it might hurt their self esteem. I don't it, they seem to have plenty in many cases. Posted by: Bobby on July 6, 2007 04:58 PMMy wife is a pediatrician and healthcare abuse is rampant. She recently attended to newborn's mother who didn't speak a word of english. Since my wife speaks spanish she said the mother new the state of maryland would covered the cost and she asked where she could get a social security card for he newborn. Obscene! I was recently in the hospital for surgery and a nineteen year old guy next to me was there apparantly for not taking his asthma medication. He told the nurse he ran out! During the course of that evening and all through the next day he had all sorts of friend come by. His girlfrien showed up that afternoon and he offered her lunch. He picked up the phone and ordered it from the nurse as if he was ordering room service in a hotel all the while conversing in perfect english. His mother showed up just about the same time the nurse came in to get his insurance information for discharge. At this point he was having problems understanding english so they brought up a spanish speaking individual from accounting to deal with them. Although my spanish is poor I was able to make out that he had no insurance, his mother wanted to somehow get him covered by her insurance and wanted the hospital to say he was a child. It was determined that her insurance would not even be able to cover the bill so I guess it was a writeoff for the hospital. At this point the spanish speaking person from accounting called for the nun to come and speak with them. This was all done in wispers so I didn't catch what transpired but he was able to check out after this discussion with her. I presume whatever it cost me and my insurance company that day for my surgery somehow also covered this deadbeats bill. Posted by: The last conservative inside the beltway on July 9, 2007 02:52 PMMichelle Malkin: Reviving the Melting Pot "Over the last year, hundreds of thousands of illegal-alien demonstrators The fact is: We are not a 'nation of immigrants.' This is both a factual error and a warm-and-fuzzy non sequitur. Eighty-five percent of the residents currently in the United States were born here. Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a 'nation of immigrants.' [ . . . ] Even if we were a 'nation of immigrants,' it does not explain why we should be against sensible immigration control. And if the open-borders advocates would actually read American history instead of revising it, they would see that the Founding Fathers were emphatically insistent on protecting the country against indiscriminate mass immigration. They insisted on assimilation as a pre-condition, not an afterthought." I am not an immigrant. I call myself a Native American, not a Native American Indian, a Native American. My first American ancestor arrived on the Mayflower, his name was John Alden. My last immigrant ancestor arrived in 1866. I have the right to call myself Native, not immigrant and I get offended at people who assume my grandparents et al were immigrants. There are a lot of American citizens who have similar ancestry as mine and we are definitely not immigrants. Posted by: Donna P. on July 5, 2007 01:21 PMTHERE IS NO SENSIBLE REASON TO SUPPORT MORE OVERPOPULATION IMPACTS IN AMERICA DUE TO ILLEGAL/LEGAL IMMIGRATION Let's wittle down the excess 300M down to 150-200M; then we can talk immigration growth, if needed. Posted by: Softwarengineer on July 5, 2007 01:52 PMMichelle Malkin's right. We're a nation of laws or a nation of citizens, but a nation of immigrants, which is a non sequitur. That's what Pierre Francois-Laurent was pointing out in D. F. Whipple's Snooker Glen. By the way, softwarengineer, as a matter of policy I'd always prefer encouraging citizens to have more children if we ever felt a need for population growth. But a drop in population down to 150-200 MM would certainly be a significant one; it could happen if we revived our self-image as a nation of innovation and ingenuity, where most folks want their children to have expensive educations and therefore can't afford to have big families. Taking the long view, certainly the planet will have more resources to go around if population gradually declines over time. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on July 5, 2007 02:29 PMMichele Malkin is right on the money. I am sick of listening to this "nation of immigrants" baloney and all the excuses that go along with it. On a local San Francisco public radio station KQED, the was a 4th of July piece hosted by one Michael Krazny, about the biography and influence of Alexander Hamilton. Off the bat, Hamilton was referred to the only Founding Father who was an "immigrant", having been born of an American mother in St'Croix. And we are always told that this nation was founded by immigrants. It was founded by Americans born in America. Why is is so hard to get this right? Besides, the term a "nation of immigrants" is an oxymoron. What defines a nation if not common history, common culture, common language? Exactly those attributes missing from a random collection of foreigners! Posted by: Kerthialfad on July 5, 2007 03:52 PMEven if we were a nation of immigrants, it does not give illegal aliens the right to break in. We are a nation of laws, although this administration has trouble enforcing them. Like Donna P., I don't go back quite as far, but my 4th g-grandfather fought in the American Revolution at the age of 14. The last immigrant on the other side of the family came in the early 1850s. I've never considered myself an immigrant. Any country, if we wanted to go back far enough, could possibly call themselves a nation of immigrants. Maybe we should drop that designation since 85% of our people are native born. Posted by: June on July 5, 2007 04:17 PMThe illegals use that line to rationalize their crimes. Open borders advocates use that rationalization for $$$$$$$$. They all know it doesn't hold water. Posted by: Ella on July 5, 2007 04:35 PMNo presidential administration since the Eisenhower one has followed our immigration laws so don't just blame it all n this administration. Don't forget the 3 million that Clinton and Gore rushed to be citizens so they would have these votes to win their second term in office. Really don't forget that 85,000 of those were known to these two baffoons to be felons with those crimes occurring in our nation and don't ever forget that Hillary was part of this plan. The battle for illegals to be allowed into this nation in record numbers has never ever been about what is good for this nation. Read the writings of George Soros, the funder for the Democrats and see what part of the true agenda is--the destruction of our nation as it is. Can you just imagine a world comprised of Third World nations and that is supposed to be the solution? What would the problem have to be for that to be the sane and only approach that would work for these idiots. It just boggles the mind to continue reading about how illegals are victims when they make choices every single day to continue their crimes. What is even worse is that the majority of us just want the laws to be administered and we are considered the extremists. Insanity just runs rampant, it seems. I am only third generation in this country and I have never ever considered myself to be of immigrant stock. I am an American, a very patriotic American and always will be. I love my country as it is or should I say as it was before the ultra liberals and the idiots got their hands on it. They are the ones that need to go. Posted by: jaded on July 5, 2007 07:58 PMyour name is michelle maglalang from the phippines,have you looked in the mirror lately or do u hate what you see.your hatred of immigrants is your xenophobic way of denying your asian heritage and the memory of how your race was treated in this country[no asians and dogs allowed]was the signs posted on every business.so the next time you pick think back on your immigrant heritage,and say GOD BLESS AMERICA. Posted by: john charles on July 5, 2007 09:17 PMThis concept of a nation of immigrants was a well intentioned concept to be inclusive toward great john charles, what a load of dung you just spouted there. Typical. You have NO arguments to support your assertion that mass immigraiotn from every corner of the world, regardless of the immigrant's benefit to America, is actually a good thing. You think a just "come one come all" until we can't pack 1 more person into this country is utopian. As typical for PC trumps everything liberal morons like yourself, you started calling her names in a losing effort to silence her. Argue against her well written article with facts not emotion. And it took you all of 1 sentence before the name calling started. You should look in the mirror and examine your own belief system. Michelle looks at things as they are today, NOT as they were 100 years ago. Get over it and move on or be a victim forever. She obviously puts this country's welfare above her racial identity, which makes her more patritotic than open borders supporters like herself. She acutally cares about he future generations of this nation and their welfare. For that, I say thank you Michelle. We need more peopel like you in this nation or we will surely parrish under the wieght of ultra tolerance and PC. not only should illegal immigration be halted by any menas necessary, we shoudl also reduce immigraiotn levels to pre 1965 levels. Posted by: Weary Citizen on July 6, 2007 10:38 AMthe only natives in europe are the whites who've been there before christ,the only natives in africa are the blacks from creation,the only natives in asia are the mongolian race,the only natives in australia are the australian indians,THE ONLY NATIVES IN THE AMERICAS ARE THE AMERICA INDIANS both in south and north america.the blacks were forced into the caribbean and north america,and the whites bullied their way in by mass genocide and everybody else followed the whites in as opportunists fleeing from their god-given position and race.so for xenophobists to claim heredity based on birth or ancestorship is indicative of a lack of historical understanding.GOD BLESS AMERICA. Posted by: john charles on July 6, 2007 11:31 AMjohn charles, and your point is? We should just open our borders to all people from Latin America, regardless if they never lived in the US territories in their history? History is a wonderful thing and we msut learn from it, but NOT live in it. How is destroying the US with mass immigraiotn from cultures that can not run a 1st world a good thing for the world? Your name indicates you are of European decent. But I strongly suspect you are in reality an Aztlan supporter given your open borders propoganda. So do us all a favor and leave before you ruin this country (the country that allows you to live in realtive comfort). You can hate us "whities" all you want, and if you succeed in ousting our culture, it will be only because of ultra tolerance and apahty, not because of any perceived superiority. Outbreeding us and a stealth invaion is not exactly a strong value. Be a man and attack us outright. Posted by: Weary Citizen on July 9, 2007 10:20 AMIllegal Immigrant Crime Costs $80 Billion A Year "Crime costs America about $400 billion per year, of which KVI TALK RADIO TELLS ME IN WASHINGTON STATE WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE HOW MANY ILLEGAL ALIENS FILL OUR PRISONS We don't investigate citizenship status for prisoners. This is a BLATANT coverup by Fascist Open Border nuts!!!! See the proof: http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html Posted by: Softwarengineer on July 5, 2007 02:23 PMUntil America realizes that we need to ask the status of people to determine how many illegals are in our jails and how many illegals are in the country, we cannot determine costs for anything. This is not a matter of privacy but a matter to allow Americans to make decisions. Neither Congress or americans can understand the full cost of illegals on our society. Since we are unable to determine the status of students we really don't know how many illegal students we are educating at the expense of american students. Since hospitals are unable to ask about status, they don't know if they are treating illegals or not. We really don't know how many anchor babies are born to illegals, since we cannot ask. Posted by: Beckyal on July 5, 2007 03:21 PMRasmussen uses the wrong figure to estimate the illegal alien prision population. He used a figure for "criminal aliens". This includes legal immigrants, tourists and students, not just illegal aliens. The figure is therefore overstated. Posted by: Ralph on July 5, 2007 08:27 PMThe fact that we have such a problem and that some crimes commited by illegals are never even prosecuted, like fraudulent documents and stolen SS numbers, is shameful. BOOSH`S GOOD HEARTED FOLKS... DOING JOBS AMERICANS WON`T DO, OR WHATEVER B.S. LINE HE`S USING THIS WEEK. Posted by: American Me on July 6, 2007 02:15 PMWSJ Recognizes Blogs, Talk Radio for Key Role in Immigration Debate "Political activism on the Internet -- and in the so-called blogosphere, in "But the immigration bill marked the first time conservative Web logs could claim to have targeted and derailed a major piece of legislation. The triumph underscored their increasing influence and signaled that the balance of online power may be evening out in the political arena. The confluence of blogs and conservatives' dominance on radio is an especially potent mix. Talk-radio and conservative bloggers don't always work hand in hand, but they have been effective when they do." AMEN... WE WHO COMMENT ON THE IMMIGRATION ISSUE NEED TO TURN OUR BACKS TOWARD PRO-AMNESTY "CONSERVATIVES" IN TALK RADIO! There is a long list of "so called"conservatives,who are on the wrong side of the issue. Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medvid, Larry Elder, Bill o'Reilly, are just a few who are soft on the AMNESTY issue. They need to make it clear that they stand with the President and or the elected DEMS. We need to advise the program directors of the stations, and distribution networks that we prefer they find someone else to speak for our side somewhere in the mix. There is another problem as well, in talk radio. I Well, we may be a little slow on the uptick of technology but we still take responsiblity on knowing the difference between right and wrong, justice and injustice. Posted by: veteran on July 5, 2007 11:35 AMIn addition to providing a new powerful tool for political activists, internet and talk radio have changed the way the many citizens approach political issues. The focus is trending more towards one of analysis and long term outlook instead of emotive based partisanship. The WSJ is absolutely on the mark when it says political activism has been given new life thanks to the synergistic flow between the internet and talk radio. However, the WSJ oversimplifies the issue by suggesting immigration reform is strictly a "conservative" issue. Immigration reform is supported by a substantial percentage of moderates and a significant number of pragmatic "liberals". Those who have been traditionally classified as "right-wingers" would have been unable to stop the shamnesty without the contributions from populists - whatever camp they hail from. As Weary Citizen recently suggested, it is important to expand the populist base of immigration reform, otherwise we will continue to spend our time and resources on defensive actions rather than taking the proactive steps needed to support attrition and maintain the population at sustainable levels. Posted by: Cynthia on July 5, 2007 12:15 PMJust a few weeks ago, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) Editorial Staff was alleging that anyone opposed to "comprehensive immigration reform" was xenophobic and/or a racist. It took the Senate's telephone system to crash from activists telephoning Senators with their concerns for the WSJ to understand American's concerns (or at least partly so). The WSJ is an open borders advocacy newspaper who has lost my respect for pandering to corporate elites and special interest groups without giving legitimacy to the problems that open borders brings to citizens and this country alike. Posted by: Pat on July 5, 2007 12:39 PMAnother conservative soft on amnesty is Tamara Jacoby, scholar for the conservative Manahattan Institute. However, she may actually be a CINO. Posted by: Kerthialfad on July 5, 2007 12:43 PMITS SIMPLE: REAL CONSERVATIVES TEND TO SUPPORT THE RICH (SUPPORT AMNESTY), DEMOCRATS SUPPORTING AMNESTY GET CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS FROM RICH CONSERVATIVES Republicans against amnesty are more moderate; who put populist Constitutional Laws above Elite's seeking slave labor. Liberal Democrats are against OVERPOPULATION, hence joined the populist camp. Democrats that support amnesty are far right Conservatives [I'd call 'em Fascists]. Posted by: Softwarengineer on July 5, 2007 01:47 PMStep aside Robert Novak, David Broder, Morton Kondracke, WSJ editorial writers and other members of the dinosaur media. Time for you to enter the shuffleboard tournaments. We don't need you anymore to tell us how to think. Posted by: populist on July 5, 2007 02:49 PMSome folks here have talked about launching counter-offensives against the open borders crime syndicate. Well folks, here’s a counter-offensive that everyone can do in their communities. It’s real simple too. Anytime you see one of the invaders acting suspicious, take down their name, description, place of employment, place of business, license plate number, home address or whatever info you have on them and FILE A POLICE REPORT! Yeah, I know the cops won’t do anything about the immigration status. But having the cops come around makes the invaders really nervous, especially they're involved in other illegal activity or if they’ve got some non-immigration related violations on their records. It also lets 'em know someone is watching them! I know this works because I’ve used it in the past few years to convince several invaders and their families that they're not welcome in my neighborhood. Give it a try, what have you got to lose? The community you save may be your own. NAU plan is going to Congress in the Fall. Notice, NO talk show host is talking about this. Rush Limbaugh, among others, should be skewerd. Most of these "hosts" are catering to the elite. Posted by: Ella on July 5, 2007 04:31 PMI WANT THANK ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE AND FAIRUS. ORG AND NUMBER USA, AMREN, ETC, FOR DOING EVERYTHING TO SAVE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE THIRD WORLD INVASION.. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP DOING TO SAVE AMERICA FROM THE THIRD WORLD INVASION, IT IS A SURVIVAL,BUT NOT A CHEAP LABOR GAME!!! THANK GOD AND JESUS CHRIST FOR EVERYTHING FOR SAVING THIS COUNTRY FROM THE ILLEGALS AND THIRD WORLD FOREINGERS!!!!! |
The public thinks anti-terrorism efforts are futile when hundreds of miles on our southern border are, for mysterious reasons, left wide open. Then there is the American sense of fair play: Thousands of would-be legal immigrants wait in line from all over the world to come to this country. So why the special considerations that seem designed to address the concerns of just one group - especially when Mexico already supplies the largest number by far of our legal immigrants?" says Victor Davis Hanson. "Illegal immigration and the efforts to accommodate it have come about from either bureaucratic prerogative - under pressure from employers and ethnic lobbyists - or court decisions. In contrast, polls, referenda and legislative action all reflect a public desire to reduce illegal immigration and close the borders now. In fact, in a June Rassmussen poll, 70 percent of the public supported an immigration bill that does that - and only that."
took to the streets lobbying for amnesty. Marchers waved 'Amnestia Ahora!' placards in one hand, the flags of their native countries in the other. Open-borders strategists quickly replaced the foreign flags with Old Glory after militant activists caused a public backlash last year. National newspapers played dutiful propagandists and splashed patriotic photo-ops of the 'undocumented' masses wrapped in red, white and blue to drum up sympathy," says Michelle Malkin. 
about $167 billion per year is government spending–-$72 billion on police, $57 billion on imprisonment, and $38 billion on courts. My blogpost 
particular -- has long been considered a liberal stronghold. But conservative bloggers show increasing signs of their own coming of age. They took a major leap forward by playing a central role in scuttling the Senate immigration bill. Meanwhile, many of the most popular talk-radio hosts are now posting on blogs, and the frequent collaboration of the two media is creating a unified conservative voice that is likely to be an important factor in the 2008 elections," the Wall Street Journal writes.
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