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May 10, 2007
WSJ: Worst Job Market for Teens "If your teenager is looking for a job this summer, as mine is, brace American teens who are seeking employment have to compete with illegal aliens as well as foreign workers imported under the H-2B (temporary seasonal worker) visa program. This influx of low cost foreign labor robs American youth of the valuable opportunity to cultivate a work ethic early in their lives. It also prevents current or prospective college students from earning money to defray college costs. Moreover, the teenage unemployment forces the families of these young Americans to take on the burden of supporting them (financially) for a longer period of time than what would otherwise be necessary. Finally, many young Americans who do make it thru college will have a difficult time as working adults due to the influx of so-called “high skilled immigrants” via the H-1B visa and employment based green card programs. If you are a student or parent from a working class or middle class family, you have a target on your back (economically speaking), courtesy of the President, the U.S. Congress, and their corporate sponsors. Cheap labor has a very high price, indeed. I JUST CHECKED MONSTER.COM FOR ANY AND ALL ENGINEERING JOBS AVAILABLE IN SEATTLE RIGHT NOW There were 50-60 available. The lowest paid ones required a minimum of 5 years experience. Even a lowly draftsman required 4 years experience (2 years with a BS). I found NO intern jobs listed with no experience necessary. Yes, PUT YOUR TEENAGER TO WORK NOW!!!! Any job. My daughter is 18 and she works 100 hrs a month doing a job I created for her last Summer, while going to school. She worked 155 hrs in March and is completing school efforts too. She's banking most of the money for her future/independence and I encourage her to work as she goes to college too. She lives at home with me. Do not get embroiled in a college loan unless the parents can and want to make the monthly payments for the student. You can't depend on the graduate paying for it anymore in my book. Teach your child the power of compound interest on savings accounts; they'll be FAR richer than you when they get your age. Check out Monster.com yourself for your city, for your student/child. YOU'LL BE HORRIFIED!!!! Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 04:19 PMI thought immigrants/illegals only did jobs Americans won't do? What a farce! Posted by: Born American on May 10, 2007 04:25 PMPerhaps, it is time for US citizen teens to take to the streets to demand their ability to work. Today, I walked by a small group of illegals picketing their employer for their "rights". I stood and stared at them and not one of those cowards could look me in the face. It is UnAmerican to hire anyone over a US citizen and I am sick and tired of all politicians at every level in this country ignoring our current federal, state, county and city laws that could be used to find solutions to these issues. These people are purposefully helping to destroy this country and need to get out of those offices. Perhaps, some unemployed teen could run for mayor of some of these sanctuary cities--at least they might have more clues about what the economic problems will be for our young who have no work experience or money to fund their own education. This is a nice article from the WSJ. I'll give credit where it's due, and by the way, BusinessWeek once again impressed my by putting "Innovation" on its cover and ranking companies by this critical yardstick. These poor teenagers, though. What's happened to non-elite Baby Boomers and practically all of Gen-X is bad enough, but what this country is doing to set up Gen-Y and beyond to fail is truly sick. SWE is doing the right thing for his daughter; it's great she has the good sense to follow his advice rather than run off chasing rainbows. Despite all the smears I hear from Corporate America these days, the younger generations DO cut it in skills, talent and hard work. Where we don't cut it today is at the elite level, where the ultimate reponsibllity always lies. We can blame this on the Boomers' drug culture, radical teachers, a profligate Fed or even the indifference that comes with too much success and wealth, but the bottom line is that these kids deserve to own this country they should inherit, rather than live out their lives 2+ families to a house watching helplessly as waves of new people wash over them. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on May 10, 2007 06:10 PMWhat? I thought (have been told by those who are morally superior to me) that we are at full employment and MUST have immigrants to fill these jobs. Bunch of liars twisting employment statistics to further their nation killing cause for more immigration. In typical fashion of the WSJ (a paper I USED to read religiously but no longer), they threw older workers in there to be sure to dampen the impact of immigrants. Sure there are older workers having to work these days but they are very minimal in the low skilled jobs teens would take. A teens inability to find a job is entirely due to the flood of low skilled immigrants (legal and illegal). This is sad because these entry level jobs have been there forever to teach a work ethic and responsibility to our next generation of workers. The pols gush about being sure the immigrants have the right skills and values for the workplace but seem to have no concern for AMERICAN children who need that life experience to function as an adult. Posted by: Weary Citizen on May 11, 2007 09:55 AMI'm in my late 30's and have been working since I was 13 years old. Currently I make a good living and a lot of this has to do with the work ethic that I developed when I was a kid. I'm so sick and tired to walking into a fast food resteraunts and finding illegal aliens working behind the counter when there are plenty of American teenages looking for work. Most kids when I was in school even retained their job once school restarted because they liked getting a few bucks in their pocket. I recently walked into a Wendys and after of trying to give my order for the fifth time I finally got fed up and walked because they actually had a illegal alien working the counter would could speak maybe five words of english. I called their corporate headquarters and complained and haven't seen that guy in there since. I think if parents are really concerned about their kids finding jobs they need to start boycotting restraunts and stores that hire illegal aliens as well as carrying protest signs in front of the business to either shut them down or get them to change their ways. I think no matter what class a teenager comes from being rich or poor they should get into the work force in their teens as it does build character and a good work ethic. I really would have no problem with a guest worker program as long as the following was enforced and their was NO pathway to citizenship and the illegals were fingerprinted and have had a background check done. If at this point they would be allowed to work here as long as they didn't break any laws. If they commit a DUI or worse they should be deported after serving their jail sentence and never allowed back in. 1) Jobs go to Americans first, if an employer can prove he put in a reasonable effort to find American employees. There would also need to be some kind of enforcement measure that if a qualified American proves that he was turned down in favor of an illegal alien he should be able to sue. 2) Background checks must be done. I don't care if this creates a backlog for immigration. People will just have to wait as long as it takes period. Our safety if more important than letting a mass invasion in. The fact that recently 70,000 applications were just passed through without any checks is clearly leaving us open to a terrorist attack. 3) They must be paid the same as Americans. This would increase the tax base but also get rid of the incentive of employers being able to hire someone cheaper for the job. 4) They should not be allowed to claim welfare or any other kind of benefit including social security. 5) We stop the anchor baby insanity. Stopping this practice alone would help our immigration woes alot. 6) They must pay 5% of their salary into a health fund in case they ever need to visit an emerency room or need other emerency care. 7) We need to enforce living conditions. We can not allow 20 illegals to live in a two or three bedroom house. First this will drive down property values in a heartbeat. Second its not heathly or sanitary to not only them but to us as well. 8) If they wish to go to college fine, no problem here, but they have to pay OUT OF STATE rates and only if there are open slots after the enrollment date for American students. 9) We need to elimate the green card system. Its outdated and has way too many loopholes. 10) H1B visas and the like need to have strict limits put on them. I'm sorry Bill Gates but you're insane to whine about needing fresh talent when I keep seeing talented people constantly laid off. Your just looking for cheap labor and we all know it. 11) If an illegal wants to become a citizen he has to get in line and wait like everyone else. Until we get a handle on immigration this should be limited to no more than 100,000 people per year over the next ten years. (Also no more sponorship of relatives). 12) I will stress this again, if any violent or drug related crimes are commited while they are here they are to deported after serving their sentence, NO EXCEPTIONS. Brian Posted by: Brian on May 11, 2007 11:53 AMGood idea, Jaded. The illegals know they are doing wrong, and really have no rights here. Every human being and their life is special, but that doesn't mean "anything goes," or entitle anyone to certain privledges in someone else's country when the law states otherwise. Illegals know our government won't crack down on them and if they do, they'll raise a fuss. They must sometimes go through life with a heavy heart knowing deep down that they are pathetic. Posted by: Born American on May 11, 2007 12:38 PMWith the bill that Gutierrez and Flake are trying to pass, teenagers would get 0 jobs. None, nada. The country would be flooded with illegal aliens to take every one of these jobs, because as the chamber of commerce, and other sick anti-american organizations in this country always say, they just can't find anyone to work at low skilled jobs, like fast food. Of course when teenagers and young Americans would get these jobs, they would'nt be eligable to go and draw social services like the illegals, claiming the job does'nt pay enough. Posted by: Bobby on May 11, 2007 01:25 PM"...citing increased competition for part-time and temp jobs from older workers and immigrants." Note the obfuscative misuse of the word "immigrant," - as if there is no difference between legal and illegal. This is the level of transparent deceit open-border promoters routinely must go to - to even mouth their deliberately dishonest false arguments. Posted by: Gary on May 12, 2007 02:13 PMThis country is walking down a very slippery slope...parents who fail to instill the values of hard work in their children early by not fighting against the entry level jobs being taken by foreigners and a government that continues to entice and allow employers to use illegal, foreign labor are killing the future. My own son started working at age 12, mowing lawns. He was actually competing with the landscape companies in our area, who all used hispanic labor. We got a phone call from our HOA because they had received a complaint from someone that our son was breaking the law by distributing flyers in the neighborhood. I corrected them by saying he wasn't because he wasn't leaving flyers on doors, (as the landscapers do) but knocking on the door, speaking to the resident and giving them a flyer only if they were interested. I further said he wasn't breaking the law because he was making less than $500 per calendar year...the HOA then hired him to care for the vacant properties in our neighborhood, because he was only charging $10 per yard. LOL He is now prepping for graduation. He has had a part-time job since he was 16 and still makes money on the side for those neighbors who found his lawn business very cost effective in giving them excellent results. Posted by: takn on May 14, 2007 10:38 AMMore evidence that the tale of the Great Full Employment Economy promoted by the Bushites and pro-illegal alien promoters-like Geraldo Rivera during his screaming match with O'Reilly- is a lie. Posted by: expat on May 14, 2007 07:21 PMMen's median wages are the same as in 1973, see p60-231.pdf at census.gov. Women's median wages, and black and Hispanic medians are less than all men now, and therefore less than what men made in 1973. Martin Luther King's dream was not that wages of blacks and whites, men and women, young and old would have a ceiling of men's median wages in 1973. There is a substitution effect going on here. This comes from very basic math that apply in any inflow problem with some capacity limit. The total survival probability of what flows in plus what was here has to add up to one. Since what flows in has a positive survival probability, the survival probability of what was here has to be less than one. This applies period by period. A survival period less than one per period implies the survival probability for multiple periods is the product of the one period values, and since those are less than one, the product must go to zero. This is the probability of keeping a good job, of having as good a job as your parents, or yourself if you had one. This probability must go to zero unless the total flow, not the periodic flow is capped. A non-zero periodic flow implies that the survival probability of everything, good jobs, careers, genes, etc. must go to zero. This is a mathematical theorem. Search on "Unpleasant Immigration Arithmetic" for more detailed proofs. Posted by: Old Atlantic on May 14, 2007 09:36 PMI have read many articles over the last few years about teens turned down for jobs because they do not speak spanish. There is another aspect to this, Do you want your child, husband, etc working next to a illegal alien who has never had a shot in their life? I have seen articles where health permits that are required in many food jobs are being forged by illegals ro get jobs. Posted by: Lynn on May 15, 2007 11:25 AMIF YOU THINK , THAT IT IS BAD FOR TEEN AGES NOW TO FIND A JOB IN THE SUMMER, WAIT TILL WASHINGTON PASS THE DREAM ACT FOR ILLEGALS TO CONTINUE THEIR EDUCATION ON THE BACKS OF TAX PAYERS (AMERICANS CITIZENS)AND THESE SAME TEEN AGES WIIL BE COMPETING WITH THE ILLEGALS IN THE PROFESSIONAL LEVELS IN THE FUTURE ,THANKS TO OUR WASHINGTON REPS. IF WE REALLY WANT TO CHANGE THE OUR KIDS FUTURE WE MUST START REDISTRICTING OUR STATES TO HAVE A DECENT REPRESENTATION IN WASHINGTON THAT WILL PROTECT OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE...WASHIGNTON NEEDS A LOUD AND CLEAR MESSAGES TODAY NO DREAM ACT , NO AMNESTY , NO TEMPORARY WORK PERMITS, NO HOUSE OR ANY LOANS TO ILLEGALS , NO WELFARE OR BENEFITS TO ILLEGALS , NO JOBS TO ILLEGALS ,AND YES TO DEPORTATIONS TODAYS, FOR IT IS OUR RIGHT TO DO IT NOW, FOR IS OUR NATION AND IS OUR LAWS. NOT THE ILLEGALS . LET'S GET THEM OUT NOW , TO PUT OUR TEENS BACK IN THE WORK FORCE AND ALSO EVERY SINGLE AMERICANS CIITZENS , WHO IS UNEMPLOYED THANK TO THE ILLEGALS ALIENS INVASIONS.. AMERICA FOR AMERICANS .. Posted by: AMERICANSCITIZENSFIRST on May 15, 2007 11:34 AMPack 'em up, and ship 'em out. End of story. Posted by: phil on May 18, 2007 04:57 PMSome Terrorists Are More Equal Than Others "Three months before the 1976 midair explosion of a Cuban plane off the TODAY'S ALLIES AND TRADING PARTNERS COULD BE TOMORROW'S LIKELY ARCH ENEMIES This means that we have allowed so many marginal national ethnic groups into America in OVERPOPULATION masses; with no forward thinking as to when or if they will turn terrorist on us. See the proof: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062005_kaplan_clamor.shtml Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 01:05 PMCHINESE BORN IMMIGRANT ENGINEER CONVICTED OF STEALING OUR MILITARY SECRETS FOR CHINA This hot off the press and HORRIFYING!!! See the proof: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070510/ap_on_re_us/military_secrets_china Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 06:35 PMBehind the Scenes Amnesty Negotiations "The debate about immigration reform is shifting dramatically, and with it Update: The Wall Street Journal has a story today about the infighting between farm interests over AgJobs and backers of a broader amnesty. Particularly interesting is the industry's continued efforts to maintain indentured status for farm-workers as long as possible. "[P]roducers worry that the Senate legalization plan is so broad that farm workers will leave their fields for less arduous jobs in urban areas . . . "We have to make sure that when we get workers, they stay in agriculture. You can't apply all the rules to every industry," said Tom Nassif, president of the Western Growers Association. Tamar ignores the very real problem she and Congress face in convincing the American public that subsidizing the importation of millions of unskilled and uneducated workers is a "good thing". If employers want these unskilled workers so badly, then see how willing they are to pay for the privilege. Of course, we all know that they're willing to do no such thing--they even cavil at the existing guest worker programs because the wages aren't low enough. And then, too, how about enforcing the existing sponsorship requirements for family sponsors? Posted by: Ali on May 10, 2007 01:00 PMAMERICA NEEDS MORE IMMIGRATION OVERPOPULATION LIKE IT NEEDS A HOLE IN ITS HEAD Let's put our American MSM rags away for a while and hear what our friends, the Australians, have noted about our national strength over the decades. The Day of Reckoning, 1/16/07, states in part: "...We remember, when we would visit these cousins in the 1950s and ’60s… they seemed so well off in comparison to us. That was not hard to do since we were the poorest white people we knew. Our uncles worked in mills and factories, with high wages. They drove new cars and lived well. They were positive… forward-looking… interested in new technology… and, apparently, becoming wealthier every year. But now, the whole situation has changed. Driving through the same towns is depressing. The houses are empty… the shops are boarded up… the cars abandoned… the factories rusty. And our cousins often seem to be discouraged… or even depressed...." The whole URL: http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/america-2/2007/01/16/ And a lot of these buffoons we elected in Washington DC want more immigration OVERPOPULATION in America to make it even worse than it already is? We all should talk to our friends in Australia that control OVERPOPULATION for a good dose of COMMON SENSE for America. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 01:24 PMSOFTWARENGINEER just so you know, australians have a 10k h1b type visa reserved for them along with spouse allowed to work too, so thats 20k work visas for your "cousins" LOL so much for your overpopulation rant Posted by: becker on May 10, 2007 01:33 PMHERE'S AUSTRALIA'S COMMON SENSE POPULATION GROWTH ESTIMATES WITH REDUCED IMMIGRATION They give their population estimate to 2100 WITH REDUCED IMMIGRATION too. God forbid we do that in America. We're brainless in this country in comparison. See the proof: Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 01:57 PMwhy do you censor comments. You just want comments that favor your point of view and disapprove others point of views. Is this freedom of speech? My previous comments were not put on the site. I am resubmitting them. [ed Note: Posting the same comment to 5 different entries wont get it posted to all of them] 1) DON'T ISSUE ANY VISAS TO ANY CITIZENS You need to ask yourself..how the illegal immigrants can survive? Very simple Can you guys do this? If you can't, just shut up and close this site. NO USE Posted by: shaj on May 10, 2007 02:20 PMWhen these people are given amnesty for having broken the laws of this country(because that is what they did and continue to do) watch the reaction of La Raza and Mecha and Lulac and all of the other racist groups. They will then feel empowered to do anything. Change laws at will, change the schools(like thye are'nt already), change anything they feel they want to in a country that essentially has a character 180degrees different from that of Mexico. Hey, I'll accept it, because it will have been done because millions of Americans, aside from the people who post here and elsewhere, did'nt care about any of it. The crime, culture of polticial corruption, the environment, the economy--because all of this is what massive illegal immigration really means. Posted by: Bobby on May 10, 2007 02:33 PMThis is what these traitor politicians are up too... Their working on amnesty behind closed doors in secret away from the public eye, because they know they have no support from the majority of the American people... So they will continue too ignore us, and try and ram an amnesty down our throats once again... Keep the phones, faxes, e-mails, letters burning up, do whatever it takes too get these traitors attention, go too numbersusa.com and tell them NO AMNESTY!... S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham called American`s bigots at a La Raza (aka the Tan klan) meeting, click link and watch... These are the traitors we have in our government... Pathetic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sEfrFoAIn4 Posted by: American Me on May 10, 2007 02:34 PMTamar Jacoby is a neo-con loon! We don`t need immigration reform aka amnesty. We just need our current immigration laws enforced, period. These sell-out politicians are using this, we need reform nonsense, just too sell-out America too the highest bidder i.e. big business cheap labor, or cheap votes, and they will keep this selling out as quiet as possible. Turn up the heat on these traitors, or they will flush this country rite down the toilet! Posted by: Independent Voter on May 10, 2007 02:52 PMThank you, American Me. More and more government decisions are made in the dark, behind closed doors, because their work will never stand up to the light of public scrutiny. If Congress and the President had anything good to show for their efforts, it would be page one news, they would brag about it. The fact they have to hide themselves and their works, tells much about their personal and collective character. Government should operate with pride, in the open, for all to see. Criminals are the ones who hide their conspiracies and misdeeds. I agree with Shaj, by all means, catch and prosecute the employers. punish them severely. More important is that we catch and prosecute our employees, those we elected to serve. Posted by: jeebie on May 10, 2007 03:10 PMI agree with American Me. I know I sound like a broken record, but let's not just preach to the choir on this website. LET'S ACT! As I write this, the open borders lobby is scheming to try and RAM ANOTHER AMNESTY THROUGH before it gets any closer to the upcoming election! They know most Americans don't want it! Here is an excerpt from today's Arizona Republic: "Sen. Kyl guiding reforms ..for the past few months, Kyl has been working closely with the White House and Sen. Edward Kennedy.. ...we are making substantial progress," they wrote to Harry Reid ["they" meaning Republicans Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, Mel Martinez of Florida, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and John McCain or Arizona..] [my brackets] PLEASE ACT: call, write, fax, and/or email your elected reps TODAY and tell them NO AMNESTY in any way shape or form, i.e., no "pathways to citizenship" etc. Build the fence, enforce the law! Posted by: Fed Up on May 10, 2007 03:16 PMFAIR says we should keep the calls to the Congress creeps coming. Well folks, I’ve got a phone script that REALLY upsets the staff people on Capitol Hill, especially those that work for the slimy Senators. The script goes like this … I AM ABSOLUTELY UNCHANGEABLY OPPOSED TO ANY AMNESTY OR EARNED LEGALIZATION FOR THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIEN LAWBREAKERS THAT CURRENTLY RESIDE IN MY COUNTRY. THEY ARE ONLY HERE TO PROVIDE CHEAP LABOR FOR YOUR BIG BUSINESS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS. IF YOU VOTE FOR AMNESTY I WILL CONSIDER YOU A TRAITOR. THAT’S NOT ALL EITHER. OUR CITIES ARE TERRIBLY OVERCROWDED BECAUSE THERE IS TOO MUCH LEGAL IMMIGRATION ALSO. LEGAL IMMIGRATION IS JUST ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SUBSIDY TO PROVIDE BIG BUSINESS WITH CHEAP LABOR. WAGES ARE STAGNANT IN WHITE COLLAR PROFESSIONS BECAUSE OF ALL THE H1B JOB THIEF VISAS AND GREEN CARDS HANDED OUT EVERY YEAR. BRIGHT YOUNG AMERICANS ARE BEING TURNED AWAY FROM AMERICAN COLLEGES BECAUSE THE COLLEGES DISCRIMINATE IN FAVOR OF FOREIGN STUDENTS. I WILL NOT HAVE MY TAX DOLLARS USED TO SUBSIDIZE EDUCATION FOR LEGAL OR ILLEGAL FOREIGNERS. THE BIGGEST TERRORIST ATTACK AND THE BIGGEST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICAN HISTORY WERE BOTH COMMITTED BY FOREIGN NATIONALS. BECAUSE OF THESE INTOLERABLE CONDITIONS I DEMAND AN INDEFINITE MORATORIUM ON ALL IMMIGRATION INTO AMERICA. THAT MEANS NO MORE WORK VISAS, STUDENT VISAS OR GREEN CARDS. I WILL NOT STAND FOR THE GOVERNMENT SPONSORED INVASION OF MY COUNTRY ANY LONGER. The people on Capitol Hill that I called and delivered this message to became noticeably upset over the phone. Anything we can do to rattle their cages at this stage of the game can only help us since many of the SCAMNESTY traitors seem to be fighting among themselves right now. Feel free to copy, paste and reuse my message if you like. Email, fax or phone it in. I would be HONORED if you do. Hey shaj - not a bad plan (steps 1-5), thanks; perhaps a little overboard, but even that's better than the Third World, overpopulated, socially inept, morally absent, unpatriotic direction were heading in now. Posted by: Diane on May 10, 2007 04:23 PMFOX NEWS HAD MINUTMAN SIMCOX DEBATE AGAINST RIVERA, HERE'S THE VIDEO FEED The picture of the illegal alien throwing a rock at the border guard, then being killed, is TOTALLY convincing evidence against the illegal alien in my book. Check it out. Yet Rivera talks like it was totally unthreatening and the border guard should be prosecuted. Click Here for Simcox Rivera Debate on Border Security http://www.minutemanhq.com/video/simcox_rivera_video2.php You wait, they'll throw that border guard in jail too. PATHETIC!!!! Please do not be fooled by this talk of "comprehensive" immigration reform. The news media and the political pundits are manufacturing poll numbers to convince unsuspecting people that Americans support it. They do not. This mass amnesty will come with lots of enforcement provisions that will never be implemented. Just like the 1986 amnesty when NONE of the supposed enforcement provisions were implemented. In 2002, Congress passed and the President signed a bill to hire 2,000 Border Patrol agents. They hired less than 200. And we still haven't seen that fence. Like these other examples, this immigration reform is a trick. Bush is desperate to ram any reform bill through Congress because he wants a Legacy. The Heritage Foundation just released a report which says that a guestworker program will cost $3 Trillion in social services over ten years. Also, schools, hospitals, and neighborhoods would be bursting at the seams. It will lead to masive unemployment, decay, and social unrest and gang related violence. Once a “guest worker” program is established, “Z” visas will be distributed to any Mexican who asks for one. This will set off a “rush to the border” by impoverished people from all over the region. This doesn't only include Mexico but Guatemala, Equador, Honduras and every other country in the Latin America, and even the Middle East. As people regularly go back and forth across the border with their “Z” Visas, no one will dare stop them and the Border Patrol would be rendered useless and eventually dissolved. Believe it or not, this bill will officially open the borders. Like NAFTA, this bill is designed simply to lower wages and provide big business with huge profits and no accountability. It doesn't matter whose bill emerges from the current negotiations (Kyle, Kennedy, Bush, Isackson., etc). A guestworker provision is buried in all of them. Some Senators are still on the "fence" with this bill, waiting for an excuse to vote against it. Please call at least TWO of these senators and kindly ask the person who answers the phone to tell the senator that you DO NOT want an immigration reform bill of any kind. A few phone calls will make a difference. Harry Reid will introduce last year's amnesty on Monday if the Leading senators cannot come to an agreement on Spector's Grand Bargain. Only a massive amount of phone calls can stop this. These senators are on the fence. Push 'em over to our side. Bennett 202 224 5444 The emerging amnesty proposal floating around the Senate is a total sham that actually weakens enforcement! Best thing we can do is defeat this in the Senate. Call, call, call your Senator. NO AMNESTY, NO GREEN CARDS THAT LEGITIMIZE THE PRESENCE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS ! OBEY THE LAW & BUILD ALL OF THE FENCE NOW! Posted by: Fed Up on May 10, 2007 08:59 PMThe next few day will be the crisis, like the high tide in the Battle of Britain. Harry Reid et al will try to slip through a 700 page law unread... BOOSH, the "monster decider", will sign it! After which, AMERICA WILL BE HISTORICALY DEFUNCT! You will have good reason to leave the country What they are trying to slip by is perhaps 10,000 Thanks for the phone numbers Kevin Brown! Just to let you know, I printed out your list and called many of them (and will continue to do so). Posted by: Fed Up on May 11, 2007 04:38 PMApparently, what "shaj" is saying here (and on another thread, same comments written under another I.D.), is that the rest of the world is by default intent and behavior anarchistic, disregards any and all laws and can't be relied upon to act responsibly as to our U.S. requirements for civil and legal entrance and residence. Otherwise, whatever the rest he/she means is that people such as "shaj/otherI.D. on other thread" will do whatever they want to and in the U.S. unless force and undue restrictive conditions are applied to ruin our democracy in the U.S. So, thus, I think what's continually eeking out of the general "shaj" and similar comments (seems to indicate the H1 worker visa people from India) is that they have no respect for the laws (nor culture) of the U.S. and unless the U.S. places utter closure upon our entrance/exit processes for everyone, they'll continue to swarm the U.S. at will. Meaning, they can't be relied upon to behave reasonably nor legally. Ruining the U.S. democracy does seem to be the underlying message, in my experience, by most if not all these pro-illegal alien comments and pro-increased foreign worker visas (which are used as method to gain permanent residence otherwise). Posted by: -S- on May 12, 2007 10:50 PMTamar has always had the same "head in the sand" attitude. She sees no wrong in this but fails to understand the greater impact of legalizing up to 30 million, who will then be allowed to bring in their families...up to another 90 or so million? At what point are the open borders, amnesties advocates going to look at quality of life? What kind of healthcare, education, transporation systems will we have if we simply turn a blind eye and let millions and millions more come here? Posted by: takn on May 14, 2007 10:48 AMAZ Gov. Vetoes Anti-Matricula Bill "Vetoing another bill in which lawmakers targeted illegal immigration, Why in the hell are we accepting IDs that can easily be forged and are completely unverifiable. This is the kind of thing that allows terrorist to move freely in OUR country. Brian Posted by: Brian on May 10, 2007 12:27 PMIf, as the governor claims, the purpose of accepting the MC is to clearly identify the holders as foreign nationals, then why is the card being accepted as identification for public services intended for citizens and legal residents? Posted by: Ali on May 10, 2007 12:51 PMTHE FBI CONSIDERS THIS TYPE OF ID CARD A COMPLETE JOKE AND JEOPARDIZES NATIONAL SECURITY FROM TERRORISM The FBI states in part [a 6/26/03 article]: "...The Department of Justice and the FBI have concluded that the Matricula Consular is not a reliable form of identification, due to the non-existence of any means of verifying the true identity of the card holder...." The whole URL: http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress03/mccraw062603.htm The Gov. Janet Napolitano should change her name to Ms. Benedict Arnold. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 12:56 PMPUT HER HIGH ON THE LIST! Another outrageous act by Napolitino, another of the Southwest's reconquista governors. Her agenda of compromising American security and sovereignty has long been clear; what is not clear is why Arizona residents, who are stauch supporters of anti-illegal alien legislation, have not instigated recall procedures against her! What gives Arizona? Posted by: (the other) AmericanMe on May 10, 2007 01:55 PMWHEN ARE THE VOTERS OF ARIZONA GONNA THROW THIS PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION GOV. OUT OF OFFICE... SHE`S VETOED EVERY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BILL, AND YOU WONDER WHY ARIZONA IS IN THE MESS IT`S IN. Posted by: America Me on May 10, 2007 02:01 PMWhy, why, was this person, who has so little respect for the citizens of Arizona, and their safety? Unless Arizona has been completely overrun by liberal/progressives,( who when it comes to illegal immigration, simply can't get enough of it,) how can she keep getting re-elected? Once again.....I don't know ANYONE who votes for this woman! We have no clue how she stays. Posted by: Kristina on May 10, 2007 02:25 PMPEOPLE OF ARIZONA! GET RID OF THIS GOVERNOR IN THE NEXT ELECTION! Posted by: Born American on May 10, 2007 03:53 PMSoftwarengineer, In Washington State they are finally requiring that people prove state residency before being issued a driver's license. See below: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003700953_license10m.html Problematically, though, a utility bill doesn't prove that somebody is in the country legally. It is an improvement, though, from the rest of the state's pro-illegal immigration policies. I hope Christine Gregoire leaves office soon, because she's a disgrace. Posted by: Concerned Woman on May 10, 2007 03:58 PMAre the illegals ALL voting in AZ? Posted by: Diane on May 10, 2007 04:25 PMSome time ago a gentleman here in California wrote up an indictment against the politicians in California. Although it is rather lengthly (as are some of Softwarengineer's blogs) here it is in it's entirety. Of course you can susbsitute ARIZONA for California or any other state for that matter: Subject: Indictment against the California Legislature
--------------------------------------------x a/k/a "California Oligarchy," a/k/a "California State Assembly," a/k/a "California State Senate," a/k/a "California Law Makers," a/k/a "California State Officials," a/k/a "Belly of the Beast," a/k/a "The Kids Under the Dome," a/k/a "The 'left' Coast," a/k/a "The People's Republic of California" Defendants. COUNT ONE
Background: California Legislature 1. According to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia; The California Legislature is the legislative branch of the state government of California. It is a bicameral legislature that consists of a lower house, the Assembly, and an upper house, the Senate. There are 80 State Assembly Members and 40 State Senators. The State Legislature meets in the state capital, Sacramento. 2. The Legislature opposed the will of the People of California for several reasons. First, the will of the people, as revealed through Propositions, was considered by the Legislature to be outdated and regressive. Second, the electorate of California was viewed as too conservative and ruled by religious dogma. Third, the Legislature opposed the California Electorate becoming better informed and empowered to affect the direction of California law and social growth. 3. The Legislature functioned both on its own and through some special interest groups (a/k/a the Union Lobby and other un-named lobby groups and associations). These groups used their financial and social resources to influence the electorate, mainly by disseminating their views through mass media outlets who are supportive of their overall goals. 4. The Legislature, in direct dereliction of their sworn duties, allowed the public school system to become the focal point of groups who maintain a social-political agenda and who have willfully and purposefully attempted to guide the moral, social, and political views of the children enrolled in our public school system. The Legislature, and members therein, are working cooperatively with these groups and associations to influence the social development and moral compass of the children within the Great State of California, circumventing the rights and responsibilities of the parents and guardians ultimately responsible for the development of their children. 4a. The Legislature knowingly, willfully, and recklessly opposed legislation that would provide for better protection of our children and our society from sexually violent predators (svp) and pedophiles. 5. The Legislature, and members therein, have also forged alliances with groups like 'MECha' and 'La Raza'who maintains that California is not the sovereign land of the United States, but part of land identified as 'Aztlan'. These lawmakers, and others known and unknown to the Grand Jury, unlawfully, willfully, and knowingly joined and/or agreed in principle with the goals of these organizations to interfere with and obstruct the will of the electorate and the citizens of the Great State of California.
a. At various times since 1994 the Legislature has refused to support the spirit of Prop. 187 which was a clear desire by the electorate to gain control of the illegal immigration problems running rampant within the state. The Legislature put forward the following bills that were in direct opposition to the desired will of the electorate as revealed in the passing of Prop. 187: ~ SB60 - award driver's licenses to illegal residents b. At various times since 2000, the Legislature refused to respect the will of the People of the Great State of California and the Constitution of California by proposing and approving bills meant to undermine Prop. 22, which states that ~ AB205 - California Domestic Partner Rights and Responsibilities Act of 2003 c. At various times since 2000, the Legislature opposed legislation that would have provided additional protection for our children from sexually violent predators (svp) in direct violation of California Government Code, Chap. 9, Article 3. The Legislature, and members therein, opposed or held up in committee the following bills: ~ SB588 - Jessica's Law; The Sexual Predator Punishment and Control Act
SEC. 28. (a) The People of the State of California find and declare
The State Legislature took no action in the face of this blatant violation of state law. e. From at least 1994 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, the Legislature has allowed Justices to legislate from the bench in direct violation of the State Constitution, Article 3, Section 3 which states:
SEC. 7. (b) A citizen or class of citizens may not be granted privileges i. From at least 1994 until the date of the filing of this Indictment, the California Legislature, and members therein, have violated their oath of office by expressing support and/or allegiance with groups and organizations who, as part of their agenda, have vowed to separate California from the United States and incorporate it into a region known as Aztlan. This association with members of the Legislature and those determined to separate California from the Union is a direct violation of Article 20, Section 3 of the State Constitution which reads:
"I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support
Indictment filed by:
** This Indictment lays out clear offenses, disregard, and blatant obstruction of the State's Constitution and the will of the people of California. This indictment is meant to edify the electorate to the abuses taking place in our State Legislature and to encourage the Electorate to take immediate action to hold the Legislature accountable for their actions by removing all those who have violated their oath of office by voting them out of office in the elections slated for 2006 and 2008 and to hold all elected officials accountable to the Constitution and the will of the people.
It is time to get rid of this female, who is impersonating herself as a US citizen. I wonder just who is crossing her palms with pesos to veto such an important piece of legislation. The government of mexico doesn't even verify these people's identities when they pass these out and their own institutions refuse to take them but OURS ARE!?! Just how insane are people in Arizona to keep voting for this excuse of a human being. Open up your wallets, Americans, for these states that are on the immigration front lines are not the only ones who will pay through the nose to keep illegals in the manner in which they feel they are entitled. How about a recall election and get serious about putting someone in your state who is not intent on bankrupting it. The rest of the nation is behind your efforts to control your border with mexico, that corrupt narco-state cesspool. Whatever kind of drugs are you so worried about not obtaining, Janet? Just curious..is it for personal use or are you enabling more criminals than just the illegals? Posted by: jaded on May 10, 2007 05:30 PMWELCOME CONCERNED WOMEN TO THE STEIN REPORT BLOG!!!! Yes, our [assuming you're from Wash St too] governor is a complete joke. She acts like illegal aliens are real citizens. The election was so darn close, I wonder if she got elected by a margin of illegal alien votes? I hear our driver's license is so flawed, we need a passport to go to Canada. I'm so sick of OVERPOPULATION destroying our freedoms and adding to our papers we need. It reminds me of Nazi Germany, when they asked all the citizens, "Papers, can I see your papers". Give me the good ole days before the globalist goons destroyed the State. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 10, 2007 05:31 PMThis traitor needs to be voted out. Is there a recall provision in AZ? What is with politicians today? The American citizen is the last of their priorities. Posted by: voiceoreason on May 10, 2007 06:24 PMNapolitano is the darling of the Democrats and is posturing herself for bigger things on the national level. She has consistently abused the wishes of the citizens of Arizona by ignoring their pleas for tougher state laws and sanctions on illegal immigration by pandering to the minority open border's and pro-immigration crowd. Round 1 goes to the Governor. Round 2 coming up is when this initiative and several other immigration initiatives are placed on a ballot for the people to vote on. These will be overwhelmingly approved by the voters and cannot be vetoed by the Governor & Napolitano knows this. The legal citizens of Arizona will win eventually but not right now.
IF ALL THE PRO-ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY WERE PUT IN PRISON, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE A "WHO'S-WHO FROM WASHINGTON AND FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICES ALL OVER THE NATION. I NEVER CEASE TO BE AMAZED AT HOW MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE READY AND WILLING TO SELL OUT OUR COUNTRY. WONDER WHAT THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER IS REALLY WORTH ON TODAY'S MARKET? Posted by: JUNE on May 10, 2007 08:47 PMNapolitano needs to GO! Why do the Arizona people keep voting her back into office??? Clearly she figures that by continually blocking any type of legislation that is anti ILLEGAL alien that she can bide time until amnesty is declared and thus her voting base will take a huge increase in "appreciative" voters. Get her out before it is too late! Posted by: TheOPINIONATOR on May 11, 2007 10:17 AMThe source news article for this entry says : "The Mexican card includes anti-forging features that included patterned security paper, a color-changing seal over the photograph, according to a legislative staff memo on the bill (HB1236)." Well ... in San Antonio, Tx these cards are given out on street corners by pro-illegal alien groups. I doubt there is much difference in Arizona. |
yourself: The employment outlook for teens is among the gloomiest in decades," warns Work and Family columnist Sue Shellenbarger with the Wall Street Journal. "This summer's teen employment rate will match a 57-year low set in 2004 and 2005, predicts Andrew Sum, director for the Center for Labor Market Studies and Northeastern University, based on an analysis of federal data released last week. Just 36.5% of 16- to 19-year-olds will be working, down from 37.1% in 2006 and 45$ in 2000, he says, citing increased competition for part-time and temp jobs from older workers and immigrants."
coast of Barbados, CIA covert operative Luis Posada Carriles cabled his U.S. minders from Venezuela to report that the plot was in motion and asked for Washington's 'assistance.'
Recently declassified CIA communications confirm that a U.S. agent got back to Posada within a few days. Other internal communications obtained by the National Security Archive research project put Posada in regular contact with Washington handlers from the time of his arrival here just before the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion through the late 1990s, when he allegedly masterminded a series of Havana hotel bombings in an effort to crush Cuba's budding tourism business," the LA Times reports. "'After learning that Mr. Luis Posada Carriles, a known terrorist, was released from U.S. custody and allowed to reside in the U.S. as a free man, I have become very concerned about our ability to protect our nation,' U.S. Rep. Jose E. Serrano (D-N.Y.) wrote to Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Wednesday."
the high-stakes negotiations between Democrats and Republicans that have been taking place for several weeks now in a backroom on Capitol Hill. The good news: The fight over legalization, or 'amnesty,' is all but over. Even conservative Republicans intensely skeptical about a foreign influx are coming to understand that we as a nation can't solve the problem of illegal immigration without doing something about the 12 million illegal immigrants already here, and together they and Democrats are crafting a measure that would allow many of those workers to earn citizenship over time," says amnesty cheerleader Tamar Jacoby. "The not-so-good news: There is very little agreement among lawmakers about the much larger, more important issue of how to structure the immigration system going forward. In fact, the Republicans in the backroom in Washington are considering a point system, but they want to apply it primarily to people waiting abroad for permanent visas. The problem with that idea? What can we determine about people waiting abroad beyond their skill and education level? Of course we need more doctors and computer scientists. But we also need farmhands and drywallers. And there's no real way to judge from afar how well either group will do here." [FAIR comment: There are a lot of back-room negotiations going on right now. However, nothing is written in stone - keep the calls to Congress coming.]
Gov. Janet Napolitano rejected a measure that would have prohibited state agencies and local governments from accepting ID cards provided by the Mexican government to its citizens. The ID cards can be obtained at Mexican consulates throughout the state," KVOA-TV reported. "Phoenix is among more than 360 cities across the country that accept the credit card-sized Mexican ID cards for such purposes as getting water service, library cards or help from community health centers. The legislation would not have affected the use of the card for private transactions such as opening a bank account or buying a car."
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