This does not go far enough. These requirements should be part of every industry, including the construction industry. Employees should be required to speak English. After all, what's fair is fair, there are certain jobs I couldn't get around here because I don't speak Spanish!!

And finally, my fellow Americans, now is our chance to get to SUE for discrimination. We are long overdue for this.

Antiquarian, it certainly does not go far enough, and besides I would'nt believe a thing this gasbag, says. He has made it crystal clear, that he is for open borders, most likely the SPP, and in general is just another ESTABLISHMENT POLITICIAN, ruinous to American citizens. Tancredo -08-

THIS WOULD HELP OUR STOCK MARKET AND THE SUBPRIME MORTGAGE MESS TOO

Think about it. If we hire real Americans for about 30% more pay, think of the BOOM to American real estate, just when low wages have dragged us into a subprime mortgage mess with subsequent stock market losses lately.

See the proof:

http://softwarengineer1953.spaces.live.com/?_c02_owner=1

Senator Durbin deserves applause for presenting this draft proposal.

When I worked in the UK several years ago, my U.S. employer needed to jump high hurdles to get the work visa, and even then, it was for a fixed term. Since I was specifically to liason with the U.S. team, the Brits let me in. It was never a question of prejudice against my ethnicity: for all they knew, I could have been displacing a black English woman, and many of my ancestors were British. But fair is fair, and I felt priviliged to get to live in their country ... never entitled.

Even though I want a tough screening process for granting work visas here, I'm not suggesting we eliminate all such visas. I actually have often enjoyed working with people from other countries, and have done so both in New York and in countries beside the UK, but this always presupposed that I had a country, too. Sadly, I report that often I did NOT, in reality, have a country here, either. US corporations routinely undercut me both here and abroad for a variety of political and economic reasons.

Softwarengineer is right again here. Nothing will provide a better floor for the housing bubble than good jobs for Americans. Despite earning two master's degrees and loading my resume with 19 years' experience, I still have never owned a home. Now my new indebtedness is toward my business, which is the hardest way of all to make it; for many people, this is not a viable option.

HERE COME THE WHINERS AGAIN!

IF YOU WHINERS PERFORMED ADEQUATELY, EMPLOYERS WOULD NOT NEED TO SEEK BETTER QUALIFIED INDIANS!

MAYBE IF YOU WHINERS SOUGHT TO IMPROVE YOUR JOB SKILLS INSTEAD OF POSTING RACIST RANTS AGAINST IMMIGRANTS AND CHANGED YOUR ATTITUDE, EMPLOYERS MIGHT FIND YOU MORE ATTRACTIVE!

ENOUGH OF THE RW HATE MONGERING ALREADY!

THIS COUNTRY CAN ONLY BENEFIT FROM THE IMMIGRATION OF BRIGHT, YOUNG INDIANS!

AND HOPEFULLY, WE WILL SOON HAVE ENOUGH POLITICAL CLOUT TO SHUT DOWN RW RACIST BLOGS LIKE THIS ONE!

OH! BS! they'll say anything! Traitors!

Pro Deo et Patria!

Even though these reforms sound encouraging, I am not as optimistic about them as Softwarengineer and Concerned Citizen are.

I know from experience that “hire Americans first” rules are easily evaded and never enforced.

For example, H-1B is a dual intent visa, which means that companies can also sponsor the H-1B workers for an employment green card. Now, the rules for employment green card sponsorship state that employers have to prove they made a good faith effort to hire Americans first before sponsoring a foreign worker for a green card. Companies can get around these rules by running fake job ads or conducting fake interviews of citizen job applicants and then simply rejecting every American that applied. In the past few years I have been on several job interviews where I answered every technical question correctly, only to be turned down for vague reasons. I later looked at the DOL website ( located at www.flcdatacenter.com/CaseData.aspx ) and found that these companies had a history of sponsoring foreign workers for H-1B visas and employment green cards.

More evidence of fake job ads and recruiting scams can be found at:

www.programmersguild.org/rir/

www.programmersguild.org/archives/lib/Abuse/ila20000424rejectingamericans.htm

In my opinion, this employment green card recruiting scam is one of the most under-reported aspects of our current immigration system.

I will reserve final judgment of Durbin’s proposal until I see the actual details. However, I am concerned that these proposed reforms could be just an olive branch extended to us to induce us to swallow the huge H-1B visa and employment green card increases that are included in the Flake-Gutierrez Amnesty bill (HR 1645).

Antiquarian is right, time for ACLU II, to stand up for Citizen rights and sue the pants off every sanctuary city, all illegal employers, and demand border enforcement from our former government. Then they can go to court fighting every business, every PAC, every congressman who supports any bill on any subject, that is ever again introduced by Ted Kennedy, or any chamber of commerce/open borders senators or representatives. Put a stop to all the "pork" until they give up on unwanted amnesty and overpopulation.

I'm sure businesses will find a way to circumvent this proposal, as they are doing, now, unless American job applicants start filing lawsuits for discrimination.

Job hiring should be about skill not nationalty. Why should lazy unqualified people be hired due to citizen status when there are young smart brilliant hardworking immigrants that can be hired? The american populations are aging quickly and those fewer young americans that are growing up now do not want to do the hard study/work it takes to be engineers. But India has plenty of young eager talent. Why should these be denied entry just so some citizens can hold onto inflation lifestyles? The global economy is fast-fast. If you don’t allow more high skill immigration, then america will become forever known as the land of the slow and home of the old.

Raj,

One day your anti-american attitude will catch up to you... then who will whine?

When the countries workforce reaches a "fever" you will likely need to go into hiding or get your curry butt on a plane. (Provided you can make it out in time).

Raj, you and Sarita are as delusional as they come... You need to stop believing the immigration propagandists... One of the main reasons for H-1B is so big business can pay low wages to foreign workers... I know brainwashed loons like you two won`t ever believe that, but that`s how it is... You get the opportunity to leave a toilet and come here and work, and all you do is bad mouth America, and call Americans names... America has done just fine for hundreds of years on it`s own, if it didn`t you wouldn`t wanted to have come here... Take a look in the mirror and see the real racists... We know how you foreigners love to play the race card when you don`t get what you want, it`s the same old and tired tatic... Hopefully Durbin is finally one of many in congress who will listen to the American people for a change, but I doubt it... Stop illegal immigration, and American workers first... This blog is about Americans for America!

THIS COUNTRY CAN ONLY BENEFIT FROM THE IMMIGRATION OF BRIGHT, YOUNG INDIANS!

I's funny how everyone seems to feel that it is somehow their right to come to the US.

Sorry, but the real citizens of the US are the ones who determine policy, not aliens.

If you're so "bright" and "capable" why don't you start your own company in your home country instead of being a mere wage slave here in the evil racist US?

Indians are smart when it comes to rote concepts and hard numbers, but they don't seem to have much of a sense of humor and many lack the critical thinking skills necessary to handle complex problems. Americans are much better suited when it comes to critical thinking skills and from what I understand, when some companies get in trouble with the programming done by the H1B Indians they've hired, it is necessary for Americans to do it all over again and correctly. I think Softwarengineer could enlighten us on that.

As to civil engineering, why do so many bridges and buildings collapse in India, if the engineers are so good?

I will say one thing, though. The most entertaining episode of Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" was the one with the H1B programmer from India who walked into the house stark naked, chasing a cat around. Definitely one time the Americans were outdone.

jeebie, it is time for the ACLU to put its money where its mouth is. After all, if they can go to bat for Rush (ugh) Limbaugh, maybe they should also go to bat for an American or two on these matters. It would be interesting to see them try such a case.

Regarding the global economy being "fast-fast", we used to have a saying in American business: "Done fast, done cheap, done well: pick any two."

And that's the problem with the almighty fast-fast global economy. Things are done fast and cheap, but not done well. The global economy is a house of cards built on brags and shams that is now beginning to collapse, because things have not been done well or ethically. This can be demonstrated by all the defective housing that has been built during the housing boom, much of it by illegal labor. Quality of life suffers.

Now, if India would like to export more creative philosophers and freedom fighters like Arundhati Roy to the US, I could approve of that. Perhaps Indians need to ask her what she thinks of the "global economy".

Finally, hearing an Indian accuse Americans of being racist is good for a huge laugh, considering that India has a caste system so rigid that if you are born an "Untouchable" (they actually call them that, nice, huh?) you can never rise from that class and must clean up the feces of Indians of higher caste and do other menial work.

Hey there Raj and Sarita,

If we Americans are so old, slow, lazy, and obsolete, then why in the hell do you want to come to our country so badly? If you Indians are so brilliant, then why can’t you make India into a country that everyone wants to immigrate to, instead of a hell hole that so many want to escape from right now?

You two are a perfect example of why H1B and the other work visa racketeering operations should be discontinued completely.

GO HOME! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN OUR COUNTRY!

Raj, Sarita

Every country owes to protect itself and its citizens. Before asking Americans to give there birth right to work in America, think of what would happen if India opens its borders to Pakistan and Bangladesh. People who stay in glass house shouldn't throw stones on others house.

And I don't understand why you don't like staying in India ???

If you stop selling Coke and Pepsi in our country and stop trying to grab our own markets, we will also stop coming to your country.

Durbin? The creator of the DREAM ACT? He wants H-1B jobs to go to Americans first, yet he wants to grant in-state college tuition benefits, and access to public funded scholarships, grants anbd loans plus citizenship to illegal alien high school students? I don't trust anything he says on this issue.

Hello, Immigrant, you have it right to some degree.

But you refer to the American people as being the ones selling Coke and Pepsi and trying to grab the markets and that is incorrect.

The fault lies with the global, one world corporate interests that have bought most of the governments on the planet. It amuses them to watch the citizens of various countries in turmoil, fighting with each other. They try to make it seem as if they are backing one immigrant group against another. Bill Gates is doing this quite well with the Indians vs. the Americans. Others are using Mexicans in that capacity. The end game is that America ends up being just as bad, if not worse, than India, Mexico and other places people are so eager to escape from. In the end, all are trapped by being played off against each other and there is no where to run to.

Immigrants, legal and illegal, are being duped into thinking that they must fight the American people. But the truth is, all people of all countries must bring the corporate global interests to heel. Americans are the most problematic for the corporate interests, and that is why armies of immigrants, legal and illegal, are being used to keep them confused and fighting. In the end, the losers will be the immigrants, who will find worse here than what they thought they escaped.

Immigrant, heed my words. We must all work together in our own countries

Turbin Durbin is looking out for American workers first, now that`s a joke. This guy is as left wing as Kennedy, and his immigraton voting record is an F. This clown wants to give illegal aliens everything, yet he has the nerve to say he`s for American workers first, what a joke!

HERE RAJ AND SARITA, READ SOME FACTS AND NOT THE LIES YOU SPEW:

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/070327_nd.htm

Exactly, Contessa. The creator of the Dream Act. My dream is that he go away from affecting American citizens.

OVERPOPULATION= CRIME, DEVELOPMENT STAGNATION & RESOURCE SHORTAGES

The prime root cause to any of man's problems, whether it be the belief in Global Warming to Detroit's Ghettos, its all is caused by World OVERPOPULATION.

Can America help? Absolutely not, it will take India, China, Japan, Mexico, etc and the WHOLE WORLD to pitch in and DEPOPULATE NOW! America needs to fund birth control clinics worldwide with education support and we need the Catholic Pope to help us [I find it ironic that the Vatican's Italy is depopulating and they want America populating with more Catholics]!!!

The American Greedy Globalists don't care if America is on a road to ruin, as they don't care about our domestic children's future, our American species of endangered animals and our seas/lakes that have become MASSIVE heavy metal trashed dead areas.

The Greedy Globalist Benedict Arnolds don't belong in America anymore.

Antiquarian:

I applaud your thoughtful comments, but don't expect equally thoughtful responses from RAJ or Sarita.

You want Coke and Pepsi to stop being sold in your country? STOP DRINKING IT! If no one buys it, they won't remain. If no one would reward illegals in this country, they won't remain either.

Immigrant;

Given that India buys less than 1% of US exports per US Census trade data;

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html#exports

You claims are weak.

That said "immigrant"...let me remind you that in America...its WE THE PEOPLE...not we the corporations!

In short "immigrant", what you seek is the destruction of America and the imposition of GLOBALIST FASCISM!

Let me quote famous fascist, Benito Mussolini;

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power"

This is EXACTLY what YOU seek "immigrant"...because it advances the interests of YOUR ethnic kin...Americans be DAMNED!

In short, you are a RACIST "immigrant"!

Raj, Sarita and Immigrant; Get this through your thick skulls, in America, its WE THE PEOPLE, not we the corporations!

And WE THE PEOPLE are not asking that our government reduce immigration and stop illegals cold...WE ARE DEMANDING!

DEMANDING!

Isn't it funny, Jaded, how simple and logical the solutions to lifes problems should be? But people are far from logical. Suicide, alcoholism, drug use,and inablitiy to see the value of living in a country of laws. Tancredo, President-08-

Hal K, thanks. I don't expect to get thoughtful responses from most recent immigrants on this matter, certainly not the illegals. Maybe from legal immigrants who do care about the US and are just as troubled as we are.

Most conflicts come about as a result of third parties inciting the conflicts. It is very hard to see, but that is the truth. Arms dealers and war contractors, for example, were the biggest agitators behind the Iraq War.

In our case, third party global financial interests are the culprit. Through the main stream media, they have carried on a carefully orchestrated campaign to marginalize and degrade the skills and intellect of the American people, using bogus "studies" and "experts". Even our own politicians are being used to talk the propaganda to us. Examples being Bush, McCain, Kennedy et al. (Except this in not effective because we have seen how worthless and degraded those individuals are, so we know better and just ridicule them). And who can learn in the public schools, which are little more than body warehouses, gang recruitment centers and mental health clinics? This is being enacted on a number of fronts: first, to get us as citizens to doubt ourselves. Then, in foreign countries, to implant the same propaganda in those populations, so that they can justify their criminal acts toward average American citizens. This is how it was done in Germany toward the Jews. We must learn from history.

Now, release into the population massive amounts of immigrants, legal and illegal, who have been carefully indoctrinated into global corporate propaganda against Americans. Massage the egos of people who are poorly off in mind and spirit and frustrated by their progress in their own countries. Manufacture for them an enemy, the American people. They want to get even with someone, so we become the targets. The corporate interests give these immigrants a pat on the head and a lower wage, thereby enlisting them in their own slavery. Bill Gates is perhaps one of the most despicable. He built his company in America, on the backs of Americans. Instead of complaining about American workers (who built his company), he could take his billions and devote them to the enhancement of the educations of Americans IF he really thinks there is a problem. But I suspect the real problem is money.

We must not engage the Rajes and Saritas of the world, it is useless and they have been too indoctrinated to know any better. We must work to bring to heel the corporate global interests. It would be better if we could get the Rajes and Saritas of the world to work with us in their own countries, because as their own countrywoman Arundhati Roy says "We are the many and they are the few".

The reason citizens first does not work is because as a proud American most of us cannot conceive that we would not be of first consideration. If the powers that be do not understand that basic implication to being a citizen of this country.. Hmm..

My friends, I wish to leave you with another thought. When you are baited or goaded by an immigrant, whether legal or illegal, remember that as bad as it has gotten here in the US, we are still here, trying to make a difference. They, however, have long since given up trying to make a difference in their country of origin. Instead they are here, not with a hand outstretched in goodwill to the US and its citizens, but for some economically driven, fawning allegiance to corporate business interests that will spit them out as soon as their usefulness has run out.

Remember that. You are still here, trying to make a difference against all odds. They have long since given up on their countries and themselves.

I agree with the previous poster who wrote about the danger of dual intent and green cards. My job as an analyst requires me to interact with info tech people on a regular basis. Most are Indians, Pakis or Chinese. Most are crude and difficult to communicate with but there's one manager who is really obnoxious. He’s from India and evidently came on H1B a long time ago and now has a green card. There are no citizens in his group anymore, the last American in his group got fired last fall and was replaced with an Indian H1B. I also see more foreigners getting hired in accounting and finance. They’re probably H1B also. It seems to me that there’s a third world army using H1B to get into our work force, and then taking advantage of the rules to get green cards. Once they get perm residence, they form their own enclaves and try to squeeze Americans out completely.

Nice work, Antiquarian! What have ya'll been doing -- keeping these two around for amusement?

"As to civil engineering, why do so many bridges and buildings collapse in India, if the engineers are so good?"

"I will say one thing, though. The most entertaining episode of Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" was the one with the H1B programmer from India who walked into the house stark naked, chasing a cat around. Definitely one time the Americans were outdone."

Raj,

You are so full of crap. I work for a tech company who has laid off 100's of employees in favor of CHEAPER India workers. CHEAPER does NOT mean better.

We have caught several contracting firms putting skills on contracters resumes they never had. Out of all the Indian contractors I've worked with then and now only about 5 percent were any good. In one case the contracters were so bad that DEV had to write their test cases for them.

The only reason you are allowed jobs here is that you are cheaper and look good on paper but rarely do you live up to the hype.

Brian

"Once they get perm residence, they form their own enclaves and try to squeeze Americans out completely."

I've seen a lot of this in tech and finance. Blocs of Indian and Chinese workers recruit their own kind and work in different teams, discriminating against Americans and anyone else not part of their clans. The American upper management knows this, but while they're firing Americans they know they can fill their cubes with cheaper workers. Frequently, these foreign workers are stealing technology and delivering inferior work, but managers don't care as long as their companies remain in business. The goal is to rake in cash from the company and support a lifestyle, rather than build value.

Living in IL I must say--Durban s**ks. It is to bad no one is running against him in 08 they would surely win. He cares nothing about the Citizens and as with Obama only want their 15 min. and money. Come to think of it most elected officials in IL are in the pockets of Big Business and not to be trusted.

I sometimes think we aren't really in controll of our elections and with these new voting machines it's really iffy. What if some Corporate Big Wig out there already knows who will be the next President, remember we got the voting machines from where?

One good point here is "Cheaper is Not Better" proven by my company who decided to buy machines from China rather than make them here. We have lost millions, the machines don't work, come with no newmatics, no instructions and our field operators can't even get them set up within a reasonable amount of time and when they do, guess what they don't work. Now our Engineers have to figure out how to make the things run. By the way that also cuts out any profit sharing for us, in the last year we received 8.95 profit sharing. Would look for another job but I speak English and want to make a wage I can almost live on.

Where is the Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers? Approximately half of the illegals have become so by overstaying their visas. Where are the raids on the white collar illegals?

Join your local immigration control group and organizations like NUMBERS USA, FAIR. Contact your local, state and federal officials and tell them you want our immigration laws enforced.

"I also see more foreigners getting hired in accounting and finance."

I've done accounts-payable work for the last 6 years. Every AP department I've worked in was composed of at least 50% foreign-born staffers. And a large part of that foreign percentage was Filipino. I guess they plan to corner that market.

One place that I worked had a Filipina finance director. All the full-time people were Filipinos, plus one Korean. The several temp-to-hires at the office, including myself, were American, Russian, and one girl from Africa. Once, I processed an invoice that was made out to one of these Filipino workers. He was not an employee afterall but an independent contractor. I realized they ALL must have been contractors. And guess what? That contractor was paid for about 51 hours of work for the week, NO overtime, and NO payroll deductions. Those of us that were temp-to-hire just went on being temps indefinitely and were relegated to clerical-type work.

FOLKS, WE ARE BEING MURDERED! Consider immigration an act of war and an immigrant an enemy soldier.

Why is this such an issue, are we trying to justify shooting UNARMED Mexican? While most of Dobbs commentaries/observations are well reasoned, he is wrong on this issue.

He should stop supporting these felons, it does not help anybody.

TODAY'S NEWS FROM THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT ON THIS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TOPIC

Dear Minutemen,

My apologies. With all the turmoil of the past few weeks I forgot to
email you a copy of our Citizens Mandate!

See it below. And if you want to join us in supporting agents Ramos and
Compean please visit Jim's site and sign on!

http://jimgilchrist.com/blog/?p=44

For the Cause, Linda

PS -- This Citizens Mandate is not only for Minutemen, but for all
Americans. Please forward this email on to all across the USA.

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The Minuteman Project Citizen’s Mandate for Border Patrol Agents
Ramos
and Compean

The Citizen’s Mandate calls for the immediate release of U.S. Border
Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean with compensation for
wrongful prosecution.

Proclamation

We, the People of the United States of America, through the Minuteman
Project Citizen’s Commission, in order to preserve a more perfect
union,
provide for domestic tranquility, and guarantee a fair and universal
application of the rule of law, hereby issue the following Citizen’s
Mandate of earnest demands to the President, the Senate, and the House
Of Representatives of the United States Of America:

* 1. The immediate and unconditional pardon of United States
Border
Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, including expunging all
records of their arrest, conviction and sentencing.

* 2. The retroactive restoration of all employment pay and
benefits
deprived to Agents Ramos and Compean and their families since the time
of their arrests.

* 3. For compensatory relief for the emotional and financial
turmoil and carnage brought upon Agent Ramos and his family due to
wrongful arrest and prosecution, an award of not less than $5,000,000
(five million dollars).

* 4. For compensatory relief for the emotional and financial
turmoil and carnage brought upon Agent Compean and his family due to
wrongful arrest and prosecution, an award of not less than $5,000,000
(five million dollars).

* 5. In addition, for Agent Ignacio Ramos, for his victimization
in
an attempt to murder him by a gang of prisoners while incarcerated in
Yazoo Federal Prison in Mississippi, an additional compensatory award
of
not less than $5,000,000 (five million dollars).

* 6. Agents Ramos and Compean are to be immediately re-instated to
their respective ranks and positions in the United States Border
Patrol,
or, should Agents Ramos and Compean choose not to return to that law
enforcement organization, they shall be given an Honorable Discharge
from the United States Border Patrol.

* 7. Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, at their option, shall
be given the opportunity for employment in any United States law
enforcement organization for which they are qualified to serve.

* 8. Furthermore, due to the possibility that Agents Ramos and
Compean are not the first Americans to be innocently hung at the hands
of a Federal Prosecutor, we demand an immediate and thorough
investigation of the office of Prosecutor Johnny Sutton, Assistant
District Attorney Debra Knoff, the Judge presiding over the
Ramos-Compean case, and anyone involved in the investigation and
prosecution of Agents Ramos and Compean.

We demand that this investigation be conducted by an independent
investigative agency.

Signed on the 21st Day Of March, 2007 in Orange County, California:

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President
The Minuteman Project

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Some Mexican, you have not the slightest proof that this drug dealer was unarmed. In fact, I have never heard or read of a drug dealer who was involved with transporting as much dope as this guy was, who wasn't armed. Go and ask any law enforcement officer in the narcotics division of any police department about this. Also, doesn't the very fact that after the first incident, he was at it again, say anything to you, or do you have that liberal frame of mind that would conclude, "well he has to make a living."?

Excuse me, some mexican. First of all, this is a big deal. Do you really believe this drug dealer was unarmed? This is a travesty of justice and Americans need to support Lou Dobbs and his fight for these agents. The Mexican government has always been corrupt, and Bush's relationship with them proves that he is corrupt as well. The Mexican
government has no business dictating American laws. They have no business serving time for shooting an illegal in the a**!

Thank you , American girl. Your conclusion about Bush is entirely justified. How can someone have a relationship, especially a political one, with Mexico and not be corrupted by it?? Tancredo 08

Shame the Mother's LOU! Federal Govt. Corrupt & Disgraceful!

Pro Deo et Patria!

We had a trial, they lost, and they can appeal. Your guesses are irrelevant. A jury has decided that they ARE guilty, not Me.

Please remember that they shot him and cover-it up. Why?

If the law is that it is ok to shoot Mexican in the a**, them they are innocent.

Some Mexican, they did not cover it up. They reported the shotting to three supervisors who decided a written report was not need. Why were not the supervisors sent to jail. Also when does the mexican government have any right to tell our government that some one is guilty.

Boy, if it had been a van load of white people
... uh citizens... in the middle of commiting
a crime no one would care. Legal citizens
are second class and illegals are getting treated
first class... and the congress is constantly
thinking of ways to give away OUR tax paying
dollars to the illegals. It's really irritating.
And to those who think Mexico should have this
land back. Why do you think they want it back?
Our citizens made this country great.. if it was
still apart of Mexico it would be full of corruption
poverty and crime. They want what we've made it.

I saw the interview and I don't believe a word that Johnny Suttonshi@head said. I believe that a wanted drug dealer that just ran away from a million dollars worth of illegal drugs would not call the border patrol and complain about being shot in the butt. There is no way. A wanted drug dealer would go hide, have his girlfriend take out he bullet, he wouldn't even go to the hospital. This cartel is paying for protection. From more than one Texas source.

Yes, they had a trial. And already 3 jurors have indicated that they were told not to have a hung jury. Plus, very important pieces of evidence were withheld. Johnny S**t head Sutton is involved. The investigation was done by the dept. of homeland insecurity, not the FBI. The dept of homeland security admitted to lying. What else needs to be said. They should be released without question.

Some Mexican, have you forgotten that Mexican drug runners are armed with automatic weapons, and often fire shots at anyone who comes near them? The agents should have blasted that scums head off! Jeeze, this is a WAR against drugs is it not? If the U.S. Govt really does not want to stop the flow of drugs into the country, they should be honest and admit that this is all a big joke. If you had a pot plant in your back yard, you can bet money that the Feds would swarm your home like a huge SWAT raid as seen on COPS. I say shoot all insurgents into this country, Esp. trash like the W.B. that was involved in the crime!

Personally, I don't give a rip if some illegal Mexican drug dealer for the drug cartels of mexico is armed or not. Shoot him since he is transporting illegal substances for organized mexican criminal organizations into a country he has just stolen his way into. There is nothing honorable in the actions of anyone who enters this country illegally and particularly if they hire coyotes, who work for the drug cartels, or bring in drugs. The only mistake these agents made, was in not aiming higher. I doubt very much if a socipath, such as this drug dealer, is embarrassed about receiving another orifice courtesy of his actions. He is a loser and is certainly no victim. He chose his actions and he deserves to be incarcerated himself while these agents, these brave Americans, should not be. Lou Dobbs continues to rise to show the nation what is happening that is so wrong with our immigration policies. I would like to thank him for his attempts to help these men. Tom Tancredo, I believe, has been the only DC politician to go visit them and check on how they are doing. That's the difference between real men and little boys just playing at being males.

Right on, Jaded. This country truly does have juveniles, as men and leaders. How can most men respect any of them??

If you like me want to stop the illegal alien invasion go to http://www.numbersusa.com/ and fax your Congressmen and Senators.

This huge failure is only outdone by the huge contribution of the businesses exploiting the foreign workers.

How can anybody put-up with such a huge failure?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

I'm sorry but all I can say about Michael Chertoff and his inept department is: WHAT A "F'n" FARCE!!!!

They were give $203 million and can't do a damn thing with it except give excuses.

They need to do away with all the bureucratic B.S. and use that money to pay people who will get something done! . . . like some lay folks who are tired of the ineptness of the government and of the illegals making a mockery of the system!

And this is the same incompetent organization that is supposed to administer the future amnesty of millions of illegal aliens? They can't even competently manage what they already have!

We have next to no border security. Even at the legal Ports of Entry there is no workable Entry/Exit tracking system. Immigration law enforcement at every angle is corrupted, non-existent, and a total joke.

The guestworker visa programs we already have are mismanaged and rife with fraud.

If the incompetent and totally clueless idiots that run this country spent as much time enforcing the law and putting workable and competent immigration controls in place as they do trying to weasel more immigrants (legal and illegal) into this country...there might be a solution in sight.

Unfortunately lies, multiple amnesties, corruption, and self serving politics will likely continue to stab the American people in the back. And the American people are their own worst enemy through apathy and ignorance.

You can't vote the bums out because the bums that take their place are just as bad if not worst.

I agree that ICE is a bad joke. But even if the government really wanted to track down immigration lawbreakers, it couldn’t because it expends too many resources on activities associated with the current excessively high levels of legal immigration (student and work visa processing, green card applications, etc). If the amount of legal immigration were reduced, or better yet, temporarily halted, then the government would have the resources to track down fugitive aliens, criminal illegal aliens, and visa overstays.

Lou Dobbs recently reported that the U.S. currently allows an average of two million foreign nationals to enter the country legally every year. That means that even if we stopped the flow of illegal aliens completely, our population would still grow by an amount roughly equal to the population of the Houston, Texas (4th largest city in the nation) each and every year.

In my opinion, even people in our immigration reform movement do not pay nearly enough attention to the excessive level of legal immigration. There seems to be a mentality that “any and all immigration is OK, as long as it’s legal”. I strongly disagree with that line of thinking. Just because an activity is legal does not mean that it is beneficial. If you don’t believe me, just ask the families of those who have died due to lung cancer brought on by excessive smoking (which is a legal activity).

The ineptness of the two major political parties is mindboggling. It really is true that whoever they do not like is the person to vote for, in any election, state of federal. Congressman Tancredo ,-2008- for President. Send of few bucks if you can to support him so we can tackle all of the treasonous crap going on in this country. I have watched and listened to many of the ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES on the various media, and NONE of them, not ONE, is talking about illegal immigration. How can there be any movement towards change, when an issue this serious isn't even talked about?? Tancredo-08-

MAKE THAT 700,000 ILLEGAL FUGITIVES RUNNING FREE THAT ICE MISSED

I'd add in the approximate 100,000 illegal alien employers in America. These FUGITIVES CEOs and Presidents can be found at their offices telling all of us in America they unknowingly hire illegal aliens in their companies.

They also have a bridge they can sell us.

To the Congress. How many are terrorists like we had at 9-11? All of them, half of them, 12 of them? There was a huge stink because we missed apprehending the ones responsible then. What about now? What part of the Bush national security plan am I missing? If we go to the Northern Alliance, all of Mexico's and South Americas fugitives will walk into the U.S.

By the way, the European union has gotten fed up with their no borders scheme. There is a repatriation movement to drive out the illegals in Europe.

Give me a badge and GET OUT OF MY WAY!

Gee, I just thought they came here to work... That`s what Boosh and the rest of the pro-illegal crowd tells us every chance they get... I bet you won`t hear about this in the MSM... They are 240,000 illegal alien sexual predators in our country as we speak, and our prisons are filled with illegals... 95% of all the murder warrants in California are for illegal aliens, so they just come here to work is a bunch of bulls**t!... Boosh and his traitors need new lies too spew... The Department of Homeland Stupidity and Chertoff are totally useless!

Not Surprised, Govt involved!

We can track down one mad cow, one tainted head of soiled lettuce, or a pouch of poison cat food. Even figure out the DNA of the father of Anna Nicole's baby. Can't find 600,000 criminals, or 30 million illegals? Even if we should stand next to a law enforcement officer and point a finger, saying "There they are!", yet still they cannot see, or act, for illegals are magically invisible and protected. They cannot be seen, touched, prosecuted or deported. Nor can their employers be touched. Amazing. Witness their chief magician Elvira, who has eluded multiple deportation orders, and yet all 300 million Americans know exactly where she is! Chertoff and Myers, is incompetence item number one in the policy and procedure manual? Or is it that you just can't find that little item, either? Here's a hint, it was last seen in a church, in Chicago, next to Al Capone's lost loot. Check with Geraldo. Keep your eyes open for Elvira, too.

Right princess on Europe and its own "Declaration of Independence" from the traitorous E.U. and Eurabia hell-ole, that it is now. Our policymakers are immigration crack-heads! Call REHAB on the double!

IT DOESN`T REALLY MATTER IF THESE FUGITIVES ARE CAUGHT AND DEPORTED, WITH OUR GOVERNMENT MALFEASANCE, THEY`LL BE BACK HERE IN A WEEK!

The Governement doesn't want to deport them....they don't want to do their job...It is not incompetence it is DELIBERATE.

We track sex-offenders. We publish where they live. Why not do the same for illegal aliens. We must protect our children.

That was a good one, Jeebie...It is getting to the point where nothing that comes from the mouths of Government officials can be believed. If Myers was honest, she would have told Congress that the White House does not want to follow up on the missing 600,000. Any guesses why it is this way?

I say let's take the "E" out of ICE...Enforcement, what enforcement????? Nothing but excuses for Lack of Enforcement!!!!

While we are at it, replace the remaining IC with Incompetent Complacency!!!

Looks like we need another 9/11 to shake these socialist liberals out of their complacency before we get serious and enforce our current laws.

They are already doing "TOUCHBACK"-- they don't need congress to give them the okay.....ridiculous MORONIC idiots in charge of this country!!!! No wonder we are going down the tubes!!

I wonder how many of these people were from the group of 3 million that Clinton and Gore rushed to citizenship since they knew that 85,000 of them were known felons when they rewarded them with our precious citizenship. I wonder if Hillary was off somewhere and was clueless to what these boys were doing or if it was her idea to begin with. She would do anything to get into the White House again including rewarding even more of them even if they were felons. Why is she the frontrunner for the Democratic party when she turned such a blind eye to this activity? I certainly hope she isn't working with the Open Borders Lobby to hide these people if they committed crimes after being given a fast track to citizenship. Perhaps a few of them are in Dean's, Clinton's, Kennedy's or Gore's homes?

What we are having is a "Foreign Invasion", aiding and abeting the criminals who scoff our laws and who feel, yes it's true, they will WIN, without one shot being fired.
ABBY