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December 26, 2006
Republicans Who Abandoned Middle Class Led to GOP Defeat “If defeated Republicans like Ohio Sen. Mike DeWine and Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee want to know why “Reagan Democrats” turned against them in 2006, they ought to think back to May 25. That’s the day DeWine, Chafee and 21 other Republican senators voted yes for S. 2611, the “comprehensive” immigration reform bill. The message was loud and clear: The Republican Party did not give a damn about the American worker. It was hardly surprising, then, that when Election Day rolled around, the American worker declared he did not give a damn about the Republican Party,” says Robert Stacy McCain. “One of the odd things about life in nation’s capital is that it is possible in Washington to forget that there is still such a thing as the American working class . . . Those people are invisible in Washington , at least so far as the Beltway’s Republican elite are concerned. The GOP elite find it more pleasant to listen to the sneering snobs of the Wall Street Journal who – in reaction to a recent roundup of illegals at meatpacking plants – opined that “the nation’s illegal immigration problem is … primarily a labor shortage problem.” Wall Street, it seems, is another vantage points from which it is impossible to see the American worker.” The GOP has forgotten that they were elected by the people and for the people. From the list of congressmen who profited from earmarks many of the GOP think that the only reason they were elected was to get rich or richer in any cases. Many people are tried of IRAQ, the corruption in Congress, and the discrimination against American citizens and were trying to send a message to Congress. Unforunately I suspect the same thing is going to happen under the democrats. Posted by: Beckyal on December 26, 2006 04:24 PMis this a joke? any person with a brain will tell you that both dewine and chafee were going down anyway or talking like tancredo was not going to help them. it did santorum no good. and what was gained anyway? whitehouse and brown will vote for CIR anyway and their victories gave the dems the Senate. now kennedy has more power and has a better chance of winning. Posted by: dreamact2005 on December 26, 2006 05:09 PMThis is just more evidence of the theory that these people are delusional in the way a psychologist would understand that word. How could they NOT know that capitulation(i.e. "the immigration debate")is what killed them. Beckyal, the same thing and much worse, is going to happen with the Democrats. I say this not because I am a Republi-(con).(excuse the slight spelling error) But the Democ-(rat)-ic votes on every issue (unions, illegal immigration, unsourcing, insourcing, Iraq,etc.) this year showed them to be even more dangerous to the wellbeing of Americans then the Republic-(cons). This includes you college kids. You just keep voting for liberal democrats and see where your job prospects go. Posted by: Bobby on December 26, 2006 05:57 PM"it did santorum no good." Actually, Santorum came back from a vast deficit to virtually tie Casey in the polls after coming out strongly against illegal immigration. Pennsylvania has a large retiree population, and Santorum's earlier social security stance was the earlier, deciding factor vis-a-vis his popularity in the state. He also made remarks that were to the right of Pennsylvania's majority Democratic population. And since PA is majority Catholic, Casey's abortion position also blunted Santorum's chance to eek out a victory. As for Kennedy having more power, well no, he still has only one vote like every other Senator, and he's not chairing the Judiciary Committee, either. The House turnover brought in Lou Dobbs Democrats who are bent on re-negotiating America's relationship with the world, and the Democratic Party will be tossed out of office in 2008 if the American people, who are losing their shirts in the housing decline, also have to compete for jobs not only in tradable goods and services, but even in non-tradable things such as teaching, construction, nursing, tech, etc. Whether open borders advocates like it or not, the country is "full," and there will be a natural, predictable reaction if the powers-that-be keep the mass immigration game going. Time to put on the next trade, I say to the business opportunists among them. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on December 26, 2006 07:08 PMA kind of feeding frenzy can develope as the American workers begin to see the Globalistas and the disloyal DEMS as oppressors. The russian revolution must have been a kind of " high" to the mass of long suffering workers. Soon, we may be back to square one for workers, having nothing to lose but our figurative chains! wait, did you say that santorum came to basically tie? are you joking?! he went down like by 20 points. okay, he would down by 25 points and gained 5 points. wow. stop the presses! that is one winning issue. you cannot show me one example where a republican went down just for taking a pro-immigration stance. not one. and even if you find one or two, it was an avalanche. and yes, pelosi is now speaker. sensenbrenner won't be chair and kyl will be in the minority. and we won't have dozens of hearings like in the summer. the immigration issue isn't a winning issue in most of the country. look at graf. even bay buchanan said on lou dobbs he lost because he was too conservative for the district on other issues. and look at the presidential candidates. outsid eof romney, no serous candidate sounds like tancredo. they might want a fence, but they also want amnesty. Posted by: dreamact2005 on December 26, 2006 07:44 PMActually, it may have been more apathy or anger that helped defeat them. I know many republicans who didn't even go to the polls. Anyone who cares more about illegals than their own citizens doesn't deserve to represent us. Posted by: takn on December 27, 2006 01:09 AMWE! don't vote for TRAITORS! Tell Them!
It's a very good article (read the FULL STORY via the link provided). And, comments by "takn" (^^) just about says it all from us voters' perspective: "anyone who cares more about illegals than their own citizens doesn't deserve to represent us." The only thing I'd change is to include those people in the U.S. who employ and service in the "business" of illegal aliens and illegal immigration, that they do not deserve to be in the U.S. and certainly don't deserve to remain unpunished. That includes many, unfortunately, of the open borders advocates on FOX News -- I believe it's clear where Murdoch's position lies after listening for the past year to the plethora of open borders/Wall Street Journal opinions echoed on that network. It's not a case of people "needing" "cheap labor" (read, illegal aliens to do their labor) but of choices being made to deny opportunities to Americans, and, to engage in illegal behavior. Illegal is illegal. If a business can't conduct itself legitimately in the U.S., it should be reconsidered as being illigitimate as it is. Posted by: -S- on December 27, 2006 11:43 AMYou know, I used to think there was a clear distinction between legal and illegal immigration, but no more. Both are being used by the elites in DC to destroy the middle class. Both the illegals and the legal skilled immigrants display hostility towards Americans. To top it all off, both the massive levels of legal and illegal migration to the good old USA continues against the will of “We the People”. If our nation is bankrupted and the middle class is destroyed by a third world invasion, does it really matter if the invasion was carried out legally or illegally? I don’t think so! Dreamact, it was other factors in the Nov. elections, that lost the republicans seats... http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=18670 Posted by: American Me on December 27, 2006 01:07 PMJustin Sane I agree with your point. I"ve had the opinion now for years and years that the only thing that will save Americans is if they protect the laws of this country in whatever way is necessary. Because I completely agree with you. We are being betrayed and sold out, every single day. Tancredo/Dobbs for President-08, something different must be tried. Posted by: Bobby on December 27, 2006 04:51 PM"look at graf. even bay buchanan said on lou dobbs he lost because he was too conservative for the district on other issues." The seat Graf lost was formerly held by Kolbe, an openly gay Republican with a liberal voting record on social issues of 58% in 2004. Graf was hard right on most social issues. "wait, did you say that santorum came to basically tie? are you joking?!" Actually, at one point the media announced that Santorum had pulled within several points, but then Santorum fell back heading into the election. Not incidentally, Casey came out against illegal immigration in response before moving back up in the polls. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on December 27, 2006 08:33 PMGreat comments by all. I always enjoy hearing your voices... my voices... concerned about this country of ours. I like Takn's comment, she "nails it" for me... I really do beleive the politicians on both sides feel more for illegal mexicans than middle class Americans. I am a Lou Dobbs sort of guy... Buchannan also... mixture of both. Illegal is illegal is illegal! Why isn't the drug war mentioned very often in all of this border business and illegal border crossings? Stop the hiring of them at then you REALLY have the criminals crossing the border. Posted by: Greg on December 28, 2006 05:11 AMThe constant hyprocrisy on this web site from the liberals makes me want to gag! Yes Bush and some Rep. support anmesty for illegals but so have your Democrats! We couldn't get it through the last Congress because of Dem's! Who but good old liberal FEinstein of California was defending the poor California farmers? Not a one of your political savy website cordinators even spoke of the Williamson tax act of California. You make me want to puke! If you are going to address this issue at least be honest. Posted by: Ruth Skidmore on December 28, 2006 05:49 AMSomeone needs to put the bug in the ear of greedy republicans willing to abandon the real Americans that a big business could be made out of enforcing the law...like say a building boom in the detention centers industry to replace the inevitable housing going bust scenario we face now. Also find a way to piss off nursing moms and link it to illegal immigrants..then we would have some fire to the movement. Posted by: Mayflowerchick on December 28, 2006 10:26 AMDID ANYONE ASK US IF WE WANT MORE OVERPOPULATION? These globalists are criminals, greedy and environmental slobs. The Democrats have abandonned the environment too, their remedy is buy foreign hybrid cars and double the population with immigrants. What are they all smoking? Posted by: Softwarengineer on December 28, 2006 05:27 PM10-4 RUTH you go Lady. Many on left are TRAITORS,and then more that out and out enemies of US Citizens,siding with the Invaders.GOP also has an element of the Treason Lobby also. Washington or Lincoln would hung these RATS for sure. Let us ALL PRAY! we can reverse this mess! Pro Patria! Posted by: Critter on December 29, 2006 07:26 AMThe simple reality is that illegal immigration does not divide the major parties against each other. Our loss. Posted by: Bill Dexter on January 2, 2007 09:31 AMNBC Airs Brokaw Immigration Documentary NBC will air Tom Brokaw’s illegal immigration documentary tonight at 8 eastern. “Brokaw notes the ‘passionate debate’engendered by ‘the waves of illegal immigrants, the undocumented workers who are pouring across the border from Mexico, Central and South America.’ Undocumented or not, many are extremely hard workers, indeed, or so local businessmen say. ‘These people work their butts off,’ marvels a construction company boss. He says they eagerly accept jobs that ‘Americans don't want,’ even at a fairly respectable $14 an hour or more,” the Washington Post TV critic writes. Tom Brokaw’s hummm (thinking) is this one of the "Liberal Media's Last Pitch Efforts" to get the American Public to be presuaded that we need this mess? This will be the usual MSM whitewash of the most important domestice issue faced by this country. Posted by: voiceoreason on December 26, 2006 12:15 PMThis will just be more left wing media propaganda, filled with sob stories, and baby waving... I`m sure there won`t be any mention of all the laws being broken, the identities and jobs of American citizens being stolen, our prisons being filled with illegals, and the enormous strain on our social services, payed for by the American people... It will be one sided B.S.! Posted by: American Me on December 26, 2006 12:28 PMeveryone should read this before and after watching brokaw's special: Glenn Spencer of American Patrol disputes Brokaw's "Indisputable Points" Brokaw: Spencer: And we are talking about illegal aliens not "immigrants." Brokaw: Spencer: Brokaw: Spencer: They have a dropout rate of more than 50%. The same is true in Mexico. Is this the Hispanic culture to which you refer? Mexico and Mexicans are the major source of drugs brought into a distributed in the United States. These are family values? Finally, Mexico is sponsoring the wholesale invasion of America. It is called la Reconquista. Brokaw: Spencer: Brokaw: Spencer: Brokaw: Spencer: NOT PART OF INDISPUTABLE POINTS BUT HE SAID IT ANYWAY Brokaw: Spencer: | I agree, Voice. It would almost be worth watching just to see the word twisting, the thought juggling, and manipulation of truth and avocacy of the disregard of all law,however my stomach is weak after the Christmas weekend and I hope someone with more fortitude will watch and report the highlights-if such a word fits...? and it doesnt. The character who runs Gould is no stranger to his addiction to illegal labor. There was a similar piece in Westword ( Denver publication ) last year interviewing him and an illegal laborer. These people don't make $14.00 an hour. Its $8.50 without health insurance living in trailers on the edge of town away from tourist alley doing back breaking work. He does not hire American workers, and the women who did the piece was running down a story about seasonal labor at the ski resorts when this contractor popped up. It seems that towns such a Aspen and Vail refuse to build affordable housing for their workforce, but instead allow for these "off the books" trailer labor parks scattered throughout the mountains. There are honest contractors in Colorado, but I believe Brokaw made a mistake in justifying this contractors hiring practices. As the critic says, Brokaw is peddling a mediocre and one-sided documentary amidst a sea of T.V. mediocrity. Mass immigration imports poverty instead of ending it, and moreover, the documentary seems grossly out of touch with the real economy. Booming? With Macy's slashing prices 50-70% and housing beginning to slide south, this is no time for propaganda that promotes overbuilding, overpopulation, unemployment and rock-bottom wages. This show appears to be a shill for narrow business interests, who are getting a forum to tout the "hard-working" (implying more hard-working than Americans) nature of their subsidized, imported labor. If someone wants to help the immigrants themselves, they can ask why the world has so much poverty, but bringing the world's poor here as our publically-subsidized slaves is not the answer. Furthermore, the regressive argument that every wave has tried to "shut the Golden Door" behind them is absurd. In fact, the United States has had high immigration levels since 1965, but the American middle class is getting hit hard as a result, and finally people are saying enough is enough. After 40 years and unprecedented millions of immigrants, Brokaw suggests we should aim for a billion people? Do we know who we are as a nation at all? I thought we were a nation of liberty and freedom, ruled of, by and for the people. So what about the effect of this on The People? Are we even human ourselves, or do ideas trump people in the USA? We are only America if we have mass immigration, all of a sudden? Who defined our country this way? I don't accept this definition at all. And where's the impact study to go along with this population explosion? What about the environment? Overcrowding? Balkanization? How will this government policy affect Americans? Too many pundits love to say how they love "America," but do they love "Americans?" Therein lies a serious disconnect. Personally, I don't want endless more shoddy condos and strip malls, crowded schools, crumbling roads and power outages. The quality of life is plummeting in this country, and if we bring more impoverished and radical left-leaning peasants into the country, history will correctly ask how the United States could have been so tragically stupid. The radical leftist political agenda behind this population alteration is obvious and well-documented, and blind and greedy business interests need to be stopped by a government "of, by and for the people." Otherwise, we are heading down the dangerous road. How many leaders and civil servants in Washington are alert enough to understand what is really happening here? How many have the guts to say no? Consider the consequences. The radical left has a track record or ferocity and evil. During the Russian Revolution, over 15 million Russians were shot or starved by radical leftists Lenin and Trotsky, who set off the largest wave of government-sanctioned murder of citizenry in the 20th century. Beside killing so many of their fellow citizens through their quest of power and ideology, these two incarnations of Pyotr Verkhovensky paved the way for Stalin. This era of history is not depicted in the media and culture, which instead focuses on the atrocities of the Holocaust, but in fact, the slaughter of Russians was greater in number, and it included mass starvations that would make for disturbing imagery if anyone decided to put this into film. Anyone with the guts and honesty in the arts? The Russian people lost to the radicals, who gave the country a totalitarian state. The Russian white army lacked land and food resources, lacked cohesion, and perhaps most important of all, lacked leaders with the skill and alertness they would need to win. They were outmatched by radicals with superior will and tactics. The Russian people suffered enormously in the name of social progress, as a result. I recently met a gentile Slavic woman whose parents fled to Lithuanian refugee camps when the communists took over; they eventually fled to the US. Immigrating to the US was not better for them, after all; apparently, they walked into the same kind of mess. Can the United States see and defeat this kind of subversive threat, or is the nation as tragically clueless as Russia of the early 20th century? I'm not defending the tsars, who passed a number of reforms, including emancipation of the serfs, but ultimately never offered enough social mobility, or at least, not enough to satisfy the radical leftists, who wanted to be, and became, the New Tsars. The United States has social mobility, and that's supposed to be the reason why our system of wealth accumulation works, but the way to get social mobility in the United States is not to bash the "tsarist class" by sticking it to the poor. That is sick business, but that's exactly what communist ideologues did by taking control of the intellectual debate, and I know the smart people in Washington know it. The American people have to rally and stop this population tsunami. If we want to help people in other countries (and I do), and address poverty at its source, a new wave of slavery is not the answer, as it will only perpetuate the old feelings of resentment that are so much a part of this immigration disaster. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on December 26, 2006 01:39 PMI wonder if the timing of the new McCain/Kennedy bill was any accident. Posted by: Gail Roma on December 26, 2006 01:45 PMThe public cant wait to see another "blame America " Story from a major network. They won't mention there is also a need to focus on struggling American Families right here at home. The Negative Socio-economic impact of Illegal Immigration on the Social Systems developed for Legal U.S. Citizens will not be covered? U.S. Citizens continue to be impacted by overcrowded school systems; overburdended Healthsystems;and increased crimes affecting your neighborhoods. They will not inform the viewers that their are approximately 325,587 Illegal Aliens currently incarcerated. Another 635,214 Illegal Alien Fugitives not apprehended. They won't mention that more U.S. Citizens were killed in one year by Illegal Aliens including drunk driving accidents, than U.S. soldiers in the Iraq war. U.S. middle class citizens have been subjected to job displacement and wage depression for the last 30 years as result of OUT-OF-CONTROL-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. In general the wholsaling of the Middle Class by cheap labor special interests who are the benefactors will not be mentioned. Approximately 9,736,625 skilled jobs have been taken by Illegal Immigrants ( "jobs that Americans used to do ") Why dont they have a special that could more appropriately be titled : AMERICANS PENALIZED. or perhaps: "THE WHOLESALING OF OUR AMERICAN CITIZENS" ; How our goverment let us down... Tom Brokaw calls it " In the Shadow of the American Dream" ; for U.S. Citizens it has been " The Nightmare of Illegal Immigration " Citizens would agree that their is much more information to be considered in Tom Brokaw's effort to bring you fair and balanced reporting. Well, here's something for Tom and our idiot employers to think about. Just last week, one of those hard working people was killed in one of those "unskilled" but heavy labor jobs. Good for Brokaw. In fact, here's a chance for him to write another greatest generation book, and make a killing like the other books made for him. He could focus this time, on how the "greatest generation" dropped the ball in protecting America from invasion. Most of the laws enabling it were written under their watch. Comments? Posted by: Bobby on December 26, 2006 03:04 PMNow that Brokaw is retired and living back in Montana, where illegals haven't drained the system yet or taken the jobs that 95% of Americans do there, he is living in a bubble. I've lived in Texas, Colorado, and Washington, all places where illegals have ruined the lives of hardworking Americans, especially in construction...so I don't buy any arguments that they work any harder than you and I...they just work dirt cheap and make their bosses rich, rich, rich! Posted by: takn on December 26, 2006 04:41 PMWE'VE LOST OUR SENSE OF LAW Excuses don't make up for law breaking. But the lies are even worse. Posted by: Softwarengineer on December 26, 2006 05:26 PMThe article states: Ahh, so they "work their butts off"? Well, so do AMERICAN workers...daily in every way. Why no "marveling"? Because American workers won't do it for the low pay or unsafe conditions being offered! "Hard-workers" are they? Perhaps so..perhaps more often than not. However, we do NOT look merely at "how hard" someone works but how "efficiently", how "ethically", how "resourcefully" they work and, above all, we must look at the final product. The final product of "hard-working Mexicans", friends is...MEXICO. Yes, Mexico: nation of fat, rich cats at the top with peones at the bottom (Note: working HARD). If Mexicans were truly the superior workers, things would not be so very shoddy in the country they alone have built. When many of the "fabulous" hotels were being built in Cancun, who did they call to do much (if not most) of the electrical work? My brother-in-law, a MEXICAN-AMERICAN, that's who (among other American electricians). And by his own admission, they paid him an "ungodly wage" for his expertise. This is the same brother-in-law who knows firsthand of the outcome of all that "hard-working" Mexican labor on homes being built in this area. He doesn't trust their work quality at all and flatly states that he fears the outcome for those who buy these homes. Do some become superior workers? Yes. Do most? No. Again and again, I remind us all that these workers built Mexico. Import enough of them and without constant and appropriate supervision you will have flawed products such as they made in Mexico. This, ultimately, is THE problem: there are far too many of them. They recreate, by their very numbers, the same thing they "left behind"...Mexico with all its problems. Our government seems to have forgotten that what makes a country and a culture is the people that inhabit that country. They and only they are to blame, ultimately, for what it is and what it is not. The culture that they create either works or does not. When they came in small numbers, our culture (the one who built the very thing that they seek to use) washed over them and assimilated them. Now their numbers are so very, very large that they recreate the only thing that they know and can: Mexico (and assorted other Central American countries). And Mexico IS a problem for all but those rich folks living at the top of the heap. Posted by: J on December 26, 2006 06:05 PMI am so tired and sick at what they are doing to my country. I am watching the US of A slip away. Posted by: mary on December 26, 2006 08:29 PM I am so ticked off at NBC and Tom Brokaw... In Brokaws special,the swine used all his time talking about how unfair we legals were to these poor downtrodden mexican masses who only want the American dream and a job just like the Americans have.... The illegals have just been handed the keys to America by our president with the giving away of our old folks social security.. Bush signed this into law and he knew full well were were running out of social security .. These illegals will be onto all our social services, all our medical , dr. and hospital services... I wonder if Brokaw wants to pay for the cost of all this ...Well I reckon he doesnt , does he... Let our government pay for it.. They have so much money...Oh I am steaming about this... Brokaw also said that we probably will Not be able to stem the tide... He also found some contractors that said Americans wouldnt work for 14 dollars an hour.. Welll buddy.... they are lining up at Swift to take the jobs that our government finally made available to us by kicking out illegals who are taking our jobs... Ohhhh I gotta stop ! bj1 I was watching Tom, it made me sick, I am so tired of being not listened to I could scream. If we as Americans don't get out this spring and march with all our hearts for Our Rights we will deserve what we get. I can't keep repeating this enough. Our law makers,big business and all but a few in media are not listening they figure we are all smoke. They have insulted our intellegence by claiming these illegals are keeping our ecomony going, they pay taxes and are just wonderful people. They have insulted us by saying we are to lazy to do the jobs the illegals are doing. What have we done in response? We have written letters, made phone calls and sent faxes alll to those very people who DON'T GIVE A CR*P. This Christmas how many of you cut back on purchases? For New Years how many of you instead of having parties at your houses will go out and support a hotel, resturant etc to celebrate? No wonder they think we are a joke, we refuse to give up anything and keep spending supporting the very people who are stealing our jobs. When will have enough? When the games over? Another thing why is it alright for an Illegal family to sleep their daughter in the room with the parents but when Americans do it they call DCFS? Time to get busy and do something they will notice, and we had best do it fast. Anyone out there a lawyer? Why can not the American People sue their representive and any former representives who failed to enforce our laws? Posted by: HELEN on December 26, 2006 09:50 PM Gail Roma, Almost nothing in the mainstream media is by accident. This Brokaw piece is the opening salvo of a renwed movement to push through amnesty. In the coming weeks we will see more and more garbage from the media regarding the human side of immigration. We will hear about the hard working, family oriented, freedom luvin' illegals all day and night. We will NOT hear about the Reconquista movement, the environmental costs, the healthcare issues, the school problems, the crimes or social pathologies that come from the 3rd world into our home. boy, not only did brokaw put lipstick on this pig, he slipped on a wig, a skirt, and gave it a boob job! but a pig is a pig is a pig. what a freakin joke. la, dee, dah. everything is wonderful. can't we all just get along? how do these so called journalists live with themselves? not one word about the wholesale destruction of entire communities (like mine!). not one f*ckin word about the illegal alien criminals (technically, they're all criminals) who murder, rape, kidnap, and otherwise victimize american citizens. and the constant blurring of the very real line between legal and illegal immigrant was disgusting. typical tripe from the mainstream media. why do they even bother anymore? only the most idiotic among us would buy this crap. Posted by: ty on December 27, 2006 12:34 AMI saw the actual program tonight, and it was clearly slanted by at least a factor of 3,perhaps 4,in favor of the unlawful migrant cause. Doesn't he realize that he is witnessing the rapid conversion of the American heartland to become culturallly an extension of Mexico? People need to start talking about the "end game". That will almost certainly be the full latinization of the USA within 85 to 100 years. It will be that, or just as likely the worldest ugliest revolution, that will put the Russian and Chinese communist bloodbaths to shame. Time to start saying on bedsheets, political pasteups, and big bumperstickers that the nation is soon to implode under this corrosive takeover. We have a duty to rachet up the national awareness! Posted by: Allan S/ on December 27, 2006 01:08 AMToo bad Brokaw didn't ask members of "The Greatest Generation"what they thought about illegal alien criminal invaders. I can guarantee you that the vast majority of those fine folks would say, "Throw the illegal bums out." They didn't fight in WWII so that our country could be taken over and ruined by a bunch of thugs. Posted by: Darlene on December 27, 2006 02:11 AMTom-Tom author greatest generation,dishonors their sacrifices. The idea that US Law is controversial, what a crock & that SOB on TV from Gould const Co in Colorado, somebody ought to punch his ticket for him! Real tired of these Illegal employers,business people thinking they have the right to scoff at our laws! TRAITORS fits with me for all them! We are so far up the creek I see little hope,especially when AZ voters put a TRAITOR like Napolitaino back in office! We're just screwwed! Pro Patria! Posted by: Critter on December 27, 2006 07:00 AMA "fairly respectable" $14 an hour?? Have you tried living in today's economy on $14 an hour? If $14 an hour was "fairly respectable," the workers making that money wouldn't have to live 14 to a home. $14 an hour means $2,000 a month. Seems like a lot? Not when you consider the average house payment nowadays is over $2,000 a month. Even if you just rent an apartment, a decent 2 bedroom apartment in a good area runs you $1,200 a month. Utilities take at least another hundred; phone if you have one takes another fifty; groceries, depending on how many you have to feed are at least $400 a month....and those are just the bare essentials. That doesn't take into account if you need to make a car payment, pay medical bills, buy clothing for you and/or your children, or pay for the endless little odds and ends you need or your kids need on a daily basis. As a single mom, I've made the "fairly respectable" $14 an hour, and it's impossible to live on anymore. One thing that this country needs to do is to actually realize what a living wage is, and pay it to their American workers instead of chastising Americans for not wanting to take that "fairly respectable" $14 an hour, and using that as an excuse to hire illegal workers. I will be at a pickup site next Saturday protesting. One side of my sign will read: GUESTWORKER PROGRAM NEEDED for Kennedy,Mccain,Pelosi and Boosh: Picking up trash on the Border Posted by: Mayflowerchick on December 27, 2006 10:53 AMNot one word about the damage done by their crimes, illegality and overpopulation. What was left unsaid would fill volumes. Curses to all the government's propaganda machines, like NBC. Thank you Dan, for keeping the truth out in the open. Posted by: Jeebie on December 27, 2006 12:42 PMWell Well Well Remember my article was first and what did I say? Tom Brokaw’s hummm (thinking) is this one of the "Liberal Media's Last Pitch Efforts" to get the American Public to be presuaded that we need this mess? This crockumentary was exactly what should be expected from Brokaw, who is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). You can see Brokaw's bio on the CFR website at: http://www.cfr.org/bios/6245/tom_brokaw.html You all know about the CFR don't you? They are the powerful but secretive organization of elitists who are behind the push for the North American Union between Canada, Mexico, and UNited States. Amnesty for illegals is an integral part of their agenda. Posted by: Steph on December 27, 2006 01:38 PMMontana has been ruined by illegals mostly in terms of the amount of methamphetamines they have brought into the state. One just has to look at any newspaper across that state and almost daily someone has been arrested with a hispanic name from California, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico or Texas peddling their illegal drugs in some community in Montana. Montana is also receiving federal funds that have been designated for states that have the worst meth problems. Tom Brokaw's ranch is close to one of those areas, so it appears the money was more important to him than the truth. The illegals are also targeting all the Indian reservations in the state and are doing so because it is a population that is genetically easy to addict. Now, someone tell me again why we need illegals, particularly those from mexico and other corrupt latin american countries and why liberals continue to use and state me need to decriminalize drugs. I just don't get it. Messing around in redneck states, where everyone packs weaponry of some type is just plain crazy. It is where I was born and raised and these fools are lucky they were arrested and will be jailed because the other option is just not a politically correct one or one the media and liberals would approve of. Posted by: jaded on December 27, 2006 01:56 PMConcerned Citizen: I appreciated the following words you wrote: "... do ideas trump people in the USA? We are only America if we have mass immigration, all of a sudden? Who defined our country this way? ... Too many pundits love to say how they love "America," but do they love "Americans?" Therein lies a serious disconnect. " Posted by: Hal K on December 27, 2006 02:04 PMHow much did Brokaw get paid as NBC anchor? For that matter, how much does the average UNIONIZED staffer at NBC News get paid? Posted by: Craig on December 27, 2006 02:19 PMThanks for the great link, Steph! Good job! Brokaw isn't just a member, he's on the board of directors! THE mouthpiece for CFR's agenda of amnesty and the NAU. No wonder last nights program was totally subjective bias, spin, and deception through omission. Now someone needs to produce a show investigating Brokaw and this propaganda being passed off as a documentary. Posted by: Jeebie on December 27, 2006 03:03 PMThanks Hal K. JoeFight, you make some great points. I haven't seen ratings numbers on the big TV news organizations lately, but people are abandoning them for cable TV news and the internet. This Brokaw show didn't help the legacy of the "great generation" much, either, especially on a day when President Ford's cave-in on the Immigration Act of 1965 is reported amidst media comments about his "selfless" character. It was easy for leaders to hand their children's and grandchildren's country over to other people ... it felt so noble and good to give! Especially when they didn't have to work for what they were giving, and it helped them maintain power in exchange for radical activists' silence. Posted by: Concerned Citizen on December 27, 2006 03:08 PMIt scares me to think what they are teaching these kids in the schools! Posted by: norm on December 27, 2006 03:38 PMSingle Mom, the 14dollars an hour figure is a LIE. I had by roof redone and the contractor and a few others were white, the rest Mexican or hispanic. I specifically asked one of the guys are you from Mexico. He said yes. I asked him if he would'nt mind my asking what he makes. He understood me perfectly and said 8dollars and hour. I'm not kidding. The $14 an hour figure is often for the lead illegal alien who has some experience and contacts in getting other illegal aliens to work for the crooked contractor. I was disgusted knowing what was going on, and told the contractor. He said I would'nt be able to find a contractor who does'nt hire illegal workers. Of course. The problem is the taxpayer is left with paying not only the roofing job but the social costs of the slave labor. Brokaw is so main stream, that he is a non-entity to me, as far as getting relevant information on anything. I hope most Americans realize this by now. Good Lord.l Posted by: Bobby on December 27, 2006 04:40 PMSeveral things bugged me about the documentary: 1- The local law enforcements acknowledgement that they do not "actively engage in finding illegal immigrants". Wow... what a message you're sending!!! "No need to worry, we won't try to find you, anyway." 2- The worker's comment about "I pay taxes out of my check" is missing the phrase "which I earn illegally". No matter how much you try to spread a thin cloud around it, you cannot get around the fact that you are here illegally and even admit to it. 3- Brokaw and producers are trying to paint a realistic picture of the lives of both sides of illegal immigration (workers, employers, US citizens, etc) and they choose Colorado? Um, I'm sorry... try doing your so-called documentary in Southern Cali, Texas, or Arizona. You would then have to ask several questions, like: "Why is the violent crime rate up?", "Why are the schools' performance ratings dropping, along with teachers leaving in droves?" and "Why are government assistance programs at the state and federal level becoming bankrupt?". 4- The employer's "woe is me" story about how much his company will suffer fails to mention that his home is probably better than anyone else's in the town... and how did he get it? I can probably bet my left testicle that he isn't "hurting" financially. 5- When they show the protests, they always seem to find a way to show Mexican immigrants waving BOTH the Mexican and US flag. What always astounds me is that the media portrays it as "national pride" and "heritage", but they always failt to mention that Mexico itself wants their own to flood here. They don't want their own people. These folks need to take a LONG look at the reasons why they fly the Mexican flag. If that is a country you take pride in, so be it. I will call you a "FOOL" to your face. Posted by: ElGrande on December 27, 2006 04:46 PMTo "J" who posted on Dec. 26th- Not only that, but when they came over to fix the problems (flashing let in rain, electrical wiring danger, etc...) and we feed them a Costco lunch, the little twrips threw our generousity in our backyard landscaping. Yeah, Costco isn't the Ritz, but it was free and generous. The feeling of entitlement runs rapid with the criminal invaders. I prefer to call Americans of Mexican decent such, vs. Mexican Americans. I bet your brother-in-law feels betrayed, as he learned his trade over years, and doesn't like the illegals lack of quality either. Posted by: America1st on December 27, 2006 05:16 PMWhat we need is someone of prominence to call for action. A call to refuse to file federal income taxes until the Border is Secure. No less than that will satisfy me. Posted by: mary on December 27, 2006 06:37 PMBrokaw's piece was the mainstream media's campaign to soften up the American public for a new attempt at amnesty. The overall approach he took was pathetically weak; by using mostly non-experts as spokesmen, he left many of our positions undefended. At 40 minutes into the program, he finally introduced Congressman Tom Tancredo, and then he didn't really give him much airtime. Where were our main guys, and why weren't they allowed to appear? Because they might actually mince Brokaw into a million pieces? Posted by: Mark on December 27, 2006 08:34 PMMary, I agree. Also, no more voting for the same morons. People should not be afraid of voting for some like Lou Dobbs or Tom Tancredo if they run. How can it possibly be worse than a vote for McCain,Edwards,or any other of the usuall clowns that have failed the American taxpayer? Posted by: Bobby on December 28, 2006 01:10 AMAs a LEGAL immigrant to America on an H1-B visa, it INFURIATES me that these ILLEGAL ALIEN border jumpers are allowed to stay in our country!!! Furthermore, if these ILLEGAL ALIENS are granted amnesty, they will then be placed AHEAD OF ME, a legal immigrant via the H1-B visa, in the queue for permanent residency (green card). These illiterate, disease bringing, illiterate, crime prone, ILLEGAL ALIENS should be returned to sender and our immigration policy should be designed to attract HIGH SKILL, HIGHLY EDUCATED ppl from all over the globe, much as the UK, Canada and Australia already do. STOP PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR ILLEGAL BORDER JUMPERS!!! Raj, Brokaw needs to explain if this is such a great system why "the greatest generation" is by far a big presence in protests across the nation. Did he mention how this nation is abandoning them in favor of invaders (NEVER IMMIGRANTS)? This is the biggest traitorous act I have ever seen. I have spoken with numerous vets and they are disgusted by it.They fought for America! Not Mexico!Can anyone help me respond to Brokaw? He needs to hear it from the real citizens. Posted by: Mayflowerchick on December 28, 2006 10:16 AMMcCain, Kennedy Again Drafting Amnesty Measure “Counting on the support of the new Democratic majority in Congress, Democratic lawmakers and their Republican allies are working on measures that could place millions of illegal immigrants on a more direct path to citizenship than would a bill that the Senate passed in the spring,” the New York Times reported. “The lawmakers are considering abandoning a requirement in the Senate bill that would compel several million illegal immigrants to leave the United States before becoming eligible to apply for citizenship.” “The lawmakers are considering abandoning a requirement in the Senate bill that would compel several million illegal immigrants to leave the United States before becoming eligible to apply for citizenship.” My! How 'Liberal' of them! how 'kind hearted' ! Time to light up the phones again THE RINO AND THE WINO... THEIR TRAITORS TOO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR WHOM THEY WORK FOR! Posted by: American Me on December 26, 2006 12:12 PMKennedy and friends have been building the illegal population since the 1986 amnesty, with this objective in mind. Its a modern-day revolution. This one is against the American people. Posted by: James on December 26, 2006 12:29 PMUmmm, I must have been asleep. Wasn't there a difference between the two parties at one time? Comprehensive reform must have meant comprehensively reforming the two parties into one. That's easier. Vote for a democrat, I get a democrat. Vote for a republican, I still get a democrat. Glad they cleared that up. I don't even have to bother voting anymore. No matter which pro-amnesty, nwo party wins, conservative Americans will get sent to the gulags, until we comprehensively reform our thinking to match the governments view. Posted by: Jeebie on December 26, 2006 01:29 PMAnd so it begins! Posted by: Gail Roma on December 26, 2006 01:41 PMi don't know why people voted kennedy, he doen't care about united states, he's not doing nothing good for this country or it's people, he's helping to sink this "ship". Posted by: charles on December 26, 2006 01:57 PMLOWLIFE SCUM!!!!! I would crawl on my hands and knees to the voting booth, with the flu and a temperature of 105, just to be able to vote against McCain. Posted by: Bobby on December 26, 2006 03:08 PMGood grief, who in the world keeps voting for these clowns, these two Johnny One-Notes who can't even read the polls that say the majority of US citizens, who pay their salaries, want both legal and illegal immigration REDUCED from these levels. There is nothing about amnesty in these polls that would conclude they should continue to beat this dead horse. Honestly, they just need to stop smoking and drinking and retire from the business of screwing over US citizens. Go home, Kennedy and McCain and stop tormenting us with more bills regarding rewarding international criminals. How many times does one have to say "No" before these ignorant males figure it out. Once again, the law makers are siding with the law breakers against the law abiding. How about playing a new tune in DC politics--one that makes sense, that has some fiscal responsibility to it and one that isn't going to cater to special interests and to foreign governments--like that corrupt cesspool-mexico. Current federal immigration laws and the latest judgments by the Supreme Court have stated there is no way anyone who has pretended to be a US citizen will ever get to be one. So, that limits all those with fraudulent documents. That has to be what close to 100% of those who are here illegally? No cigar to these two idiots. There is no amnesty that is ever, ever going to be acceptable. Never! Posted by: jaded on December 26, 2006 03:45 PMI probably do not understand politics in Mr. Kennedys home state of Massachusetts, but I cannot understand why he keeps getting reelected. I once met a fellow from Massachusetts doing business with the firm I worked for, and he was of the opinion that people there felt sorry for Teddy because of all his family suffered. He also said Kennedy brought jobs to the state. It is a sad commentary though on human nature. What of Mary Joe Kopeckne? It is the same self interest that is going to sink Americans on the illegal immigratiion issue. The truth is we don't need any immigration for quite awhile. Get the schools, crime, environment and drug situation cleaned up and take responsibility for this country. That is what Americans need to concentrate on. Tancredo should be the only person Americans should even be thinking of voting for. Why, because he will solve all of the problems? Of course not. What voting for someone who is so obviously against everything the corrupt political system stands for will do, is shake things up seriously and prove the American people will not accept the status quo, that is corruption ,filth and lawbreaking any longer. How can Americans stomach watching their ports, roads, businesses, and whole country being sold out? Posted by: Bobby on December 26, 2006 04:15 PMAlthough I live here in Massachusetts I never did voted for Fatboy Kennedy. Many people in my state who did voted for him on November 8th tell me they now regret that they did. Now he and McDumbass are going to make another attempt to shove the shamnesty bill down our throats again. Posted by: John M. from Mass. on December 26, 2006 04:42 PMI love it! The RINO and the WINO !!! I have spent countless hours begging for protests on our behalf...you can't get enough Americans to stand up and demand that Congress stop this nonsense...it's past time to say, we'll speak with or votes. Wake up !!! It didn't work in November, now the amnesty loving democrats may well have their way! During the protests by thousands of illegals, the few of us willing to stand on street corners and support America were told by police and our elected officials they wouldn't or couldn't protect us! What a bunch of bull! Congress is poised and they feel like they have free reign to do as they wish because not enough of us are standing up and demanding otherwise! Posted by: takn on December 26, 2006 04:49 PMDID THEY ASK US IF WE WANTED OVERPOULATION? We already told them no, but they don't listen. Posted by: Softwarengineer on December 26, 2006 05:28 PMMcCain is the most incompetent senator to be found in either party, in my opinion. Not surprising it is he who is backing illegal immigration. Posted by: Fuzzball on December 26, 2006 06:48 PMtakn, if apathy and ignorance could be pumped out of the ground, America would be Saudi Arabia. The fact is that most Americans just don’t care. They won’t care until this effects them personally. That will happen when the unemployment rate goes up. Then watch out. The open borders lobby is laying the foundation for a holocaust. The only question is whose holocaust it will be. Posted by: Gail Roma on December 26, 2006 07:00 PMTed Kennedy is more or less hopeless--a bloated, aging drunk. John McCaine, if he announces a run for the presidency, would be the true Manchurian Candidate. No doubt he received thorough doses of intense brainwashing while a Red POW, which no doubt have been affecting his thinking processes. Why can't these political elites listen to the will of the American people!!! Most Americans want reductions in both legal and illegal immigration!!! I hope that John McCain will develop a disease before '08 and will suffer the remainder of his miserable life in pure agony for his attempt to subvert this country. As for the murderer from Mass, I will refrain from listing my wishes on him...I may be censored! What corner are you on, takn? I'll stand there with you. Posted by: Faye on December 27, 2006 02:52 AMIt is sooooo infuriating! My blood boils when people like these two pricks sell our nation down the trail to the illegal alien law breakers. 30 years I have devoted to my country ... and my children will have to wade through a mountain of illegal crap to even have a decent life... Our country is being sold out for personal gain and we just sit back and allow it! Well, if ever there will be a "spark" that ignites the revolution in this country... this illegal alien topic will likely be the spark that sets it all off... and when it goes... stand by, cause it will likely be really bad! Posted by: Greg on December 27, 2006 05:10 AMThere is no doubt that the battle over amnesty will be the most important exercise in political activism in our lifetimes. The stakes are simply enormous. Along with the amnesty, we will also have to fight off at least four attempts to increase the number of H-1B visas and green cards for those so-called "high-skilled" foreign professionals in 2007. The first attempt (to raise the H-1B and green card quota) will most likely come in the form of provisions attached to a supplemental resolution/spending bill that will be sent to President Bu$h on or before February 15, which is the date that the current funding for the Federal Government runs out. It is very important for our side to win ALL of the battles in 2007. If we defeat Amnesty but lose on the H-1B/green card issue, then the ladders of upward mobility in the U.S. will be all but destroyed. If we are victorious on H-1B/green card but are defeated on Amnesty, then what's left of our society and culture will most likely be gone forever. However, if we can defeat all of these eveil measures in 2007, then 2008 may be better for us because the sell-out politicians are less likely to push for outrageous legislation on the hot-button topic of immigration in an election year. Posted by: Steph on December 27, 2006 09:01 AMAll these clowns need to be chained at the border with a 15 ft. lead and given a six month "guest worker program" until the border is cleaned up! Posted by: Mayflowerchick on December 27, 2006 10:56 AMReading that many in our Senate (and White House) are even DISCUSSING (much moreso, attempting to legislate) on behalf of illegal aliens and those who have demonstrated that they are responsible for illegal immigration, I literally weap intellectually. They are considering bestowing U.S.CITIZENSHIP upon persons who have demostrated that they have little more ethics than to have illegal immigrated and to remain in the U.S. illegally by whatever means they've been using to do so. That's the extent of what the Citizenship "award" by these people infesting our Senate is. That they can and maybe will just deem U.S. Citizenship to apply to this vast population who has demonstrated that they can break our laws perhaps "better" and more efficiently than law abiding persons. I never.thought.I.would.see.the.day when our U.S. Senate and White House could even be discussing these actions outside any range of punitive actions. The very last people in our nation who merit U.S. citizenship are those who have remained here illegally -- they should be given one thing and one thing only by our Senate and that's deportation. If they were, in fact, honoring their oaths of office, to protect, defend and uphold our Constititution, they WOULD BE deporting illegal aliens. Instead, we see this travesty of justice in our nation of actual sitting Senators ruminating about providing "a path to citizenship" to people who have done one thing "well" and one thing only: violated our U.S. laws, lied cheated and stolen from us and persevered longer than others in doing so. Upon that, our Senators say they're worthy. This is disgusting, utter and vile corruption of ethics, their oaths of office, and our very concept of democracy as a government based upon the rule of law. The corrupt in the Senate apparently think that means that they are to be intent upon rewarding whoever violates our laws more assuredly than anyone else. Posted by: -S- on December 27, 2006 12:16 PMI see that I am not the only citizen here who perceives the loathesome irony involved in the likes of Ted Kennedy (and McCain, who by this point deserves his place in history as copilot in the same drunken road rage methodology as Kennedy's) in his/their seeking to "award" U.S. citizenship to the human segment among us who is illegal. Pause and consider that. They're actually proposing if not attempting to make this happen, to "reward" the most ardently illegally behaved among us with U.S. citizenship. As if citizenship was theirs to dole out at will but even worse, upon people who have proven their ethics to be very bad, their behaviors illegal, their respect for our nation and our Constitutional founding principle (the rule of law that defines us as a democracy) to be utterly absent. And thus, in Kennedy's and McCain's minds (among others), they're -- hey! -- citizens! Why not make Saddam Hussein a citizen? Hey, what about Al Queada! Round up every burglar and other felons and let them summer in the Lincoln Bedroom! It makes as much sense, is my point. Coming from Ted Kennedy and McCain, however, it makes perfect sense because what they have driven home by this point is that they are two bumbs who are eager to reward the worst behaviors with one of the most valuable characteristics that most of us citizens have: our citizenship, our love of our nation, our ongoing agreement with good faith to respect and honor our nation and our laws accordingly. Whoever has voted for these two, you deserve to share a cell with either of them. Didn't they take an oath of office in the Senate? To protect and defend our U.S. Constitution? It stipulates that illegal aliens are to be deported. I guess Kennedy and McCain think they can just skirt around that clumsy document and work their own craft as it suits their egotistical, mad desires. Posted by: -S- on December 27, 2006 12:36 PMThese two traitors are at it again. How these morons keep getting re-elected is beyond me. It`s time to turn up the heat, and fight even harder to stop this destruction. Let`s see if the new dems that won on a get tough on illegals campaign will fullfill their promise, or if they were just spewing more political lies. Where`s our fence, oh that`s rite, the dems wanna stop all funding for it. Boosh, shamnesty, democratic control, and these two traitors will be the destruction of America as we know it! Posted by: Independent Voter on December 27, 2006 12:57 PMWhy have these so called americans have so much hate in their hearts for the (illegal) immigrants when they have done so much good for this country. I have heard that they are planning new marches in this country to propel their amnesty. I believe that will be the catalyst to blow this civil war ski high. It is going to happen and it won't be pretty. Posted by: mary on December 27, 2006 06:45 PMHey Keith were not so-called Americans, we are Americans... You`re blinded by ignorance and stupidity... America`s ancestors were not illegal, that couldn`t be anymore ridiculous... Our ancestors built this country up too what it is today, and illegals come here now and destroy it... We are not ancestors of illegal aliens, that`s just absurd, we are ancestors of immigrants, LEGAL immigrants... You`re American by birth you say, I take it you`re an anchor baby... Get your American history rite... Now we have McTraitor and Kennedy the drunk, who want to flush it all down the toilet... Posted by: American Me on December 27, 2006 09:08 PMAlas. A prophetic cacophony of truth re McCain and Kennedy - but let us not forget their evil stepsisters - Gutierrez and Flake. What ever the two dirtbags in the Senate get passed will have to get by the House and Flake and Gutierrez have always been the last pieces of the "COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL." How ironic that two of the treasonous foursome are from Arizona - a battleground State that has produced many victories but has lost far too many battles at the hands of traitors of the most loathesome qualities - from McCain to Napalitano to Flake to Colby and the other two Dino stinkers who live and breath 'hispania." Were this the major issue in 1992 - McCain and the two Dino's and Kolby would never have gotten past Flagstaff. Flake would have been aborted and Napolitano would still be working on Van Buren. Now, because of their ability to lie their way to the seat of power, they have proven beyond any doubt that they are better pimps and prostitutes than even they believed - or - we got a lot dumber. On every webpage people are screaming that we should fax, e-mail, write, call, etc. - but when the enemy is pointing the elephant gun at your head - this kind of exercise in futility will get us "murdered." I can't wait for the day when the demons from hell will visit every household and kill the American Politics is a dirty business and we have tried to play by our rules - and they have won!! GUESS WHAT WE WILL NEED TO DO AND PEOPLE WITH WEAK STOMACHS HAD BETTER STAY HOME! Posted by: MJB on December 27, 2006 11:34 PMKeith, Slipping over the border, with no one knowing who you are and STEALING a social security number, (or two or three) is ILLEGAL! Yes, these illegals have done lots of good for this country ie: lowering wages, overcrowding schools, closing down hospitals, and rampant drug trafficking. Geronimo! pack sand,I have Cherekee Blood,but I AIN"T giving up my country to Invaders. BOBBY the Greatest Generation it was the Elites of that generation who did that,not the everyday US CITIZENS! Old Tom should go ask the WWII Vets how they like having thier sacrifices dishonored by Traitor/Elites. I'd bet many aren't conflicted at about these friggin Invaders. They didn't die and suffer for this BETRAYAL! You know they must be very dismayed! God Bless them! Posted by: Critter on December 29, 2006 07:39 AMAmerican Me,Ella and Critter i feel sorry for you since now i know for certain that you all don't know American history especially AMERICAN ME and CRITTER.ELLA is not an informed individual since he only sees like a race horse just what's in front ignoring everything else.(READ THE BELOW THIS IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR MY IGNORANT FRIENDS I CAN GO FUTHER BACK TO THE 1600's to those who are still blind. Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), for example, says his grandparents — Dutch immigrants who settled in Nebraska — didn't try to get ahead by breaking the law. Rather, they made it through "frugality … hard work, grit, honesty," he says. "They would be very upset about people who didn't do it the right way." What's more, statutes of limitations of one to five years meant that even those here unlawfully did not live forever with the specter of deportation. In the early 1900s, immigrants from Europe provided cheap, unskilled labor that made possible the nation's industrial and urban expansion. They shoveled pig iron, dug sewers and subway tunnels and sewed shirtwaists. Even then, people born in the U.S. complained that the newcomers stole jobs, were ignorant, criminal and showed no desire to become citizens. The rhetoric was often unabashedly prejudiced against Italians, Jews, Poles and other "degraded races of Europe." In the conservative climate after World War I, Congress slammed shut the golden door. For the first time, the U.S. imposed numerical limits on immigration. Congress gave the smallest quotas to Eastern and Southern European countries and excluded all Asians; it also created the U.S. Border Patrol and eliminated statutes of limitations on deportation. It exempted countries of the Western Hemisphere, however, in deference to agricultural labor needs and the State Department's tradition of pan-Americanism. These quotas created illegal immigration as a mass phenomenon. And since that time, Americans have been of two minds about the problem. We want restrictions on immigration, but we hesitate to execute mass deportations. Congress has thus pursued border control, on the one hand, and legalization of the undocumented on the other. Our legalization policies recognized that once a person settled here, had a family, a job and a home, he or she became a part of society. Separating families was seen as detrimental to individuals and society, and deportation was likened to banishment. Here's how hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants — mostly Europeans — became legal: • The Registry Act of 1929 allowed immigrants who arrived before 1921 but had no record of their admission to register retroactively, for a $20 fee. • From 1935 to the late 1950s, to keep families together, tens of thousands of Europeans unlawfully in the U.S. were allowed temporarily to go to Canada and reenter the States legally as a permanent resident. • In 1940, Congress authorized the suspension of orders of deportation in cases of hardship, which it defined as "serious economic detriment" to the immigrant's immediate family. The guidelines have become less generous, but the principle remains in the law. In 1965, the U.S. repealed racial restrictions against Southern and Eastern Europeans and Asians, but the 1965 law also imposed quotas for the first time on Western Hemisphere countries. That created illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America. Posted by: keith on December 30, 2006 03:03 AMIllegal Workers Face “Climate of Fear,” May Actually Be Deported "Throughout the region, farm hands have simply disappeared by twos and threes, picked up on a Sunday as they went to church or to the laundry. Whole families have gone into hiding, like the couple who spent the night with their child in a plastic calf hutch. As record-setting enforcement of immigration laws upends old, unspoken arrangements, a new climate of fear is sweeping through the rural communities of western and central New York,” says the New York Times. “In small towns divided over immigration, they fear that speaking out — or a disgruntled neighbor’s call to the authorities — could make them targets of the next raid and raise the threat of criminal prosecution. Here where agriculture is the mainstay of a depressed economy, the mainstay of agriculture is largely illegal immigrant labor from Mexico. Now, more aggressive enforcement has disrupted a system of official winks, nods and paperwork that for years protected farmers from ‘knowingly’ hiring the illegal immigrants who make up most of their work force.” "Illegal Workers Face “Climate of Fear,” May Actually Be Deported" The entire population of Actual Americans, however, continue to endure a "climate of fear" which is far more real and impossible to escape-even in the most likely of places. They have actually began 'deporting' themselves out of every city The Chosen Ones infest-and are seeking places like that remind them of Home.Yet are treated as criminals guilty without a trial for crying out about it. Who among us is the most cruel I ask? Cromwell? Judge Jeffries? Robespierre? Torquemada? I'm sorry, but I don't have any sympathy for the farmers. They'll no longer be able to get rich off slave labor ----too bad. Posted by: Ella on December 26, 2006 12:01 PM"May Actually Be Deported?" Mybe I''l grow a tail and run in the Kentcky Derby! Posted by: Gail Roma on December 26, 2006 01:50 PMThe farmers have to see the bigger picture. One that extends beyond their cabbage patches and vineyards. One that includes a financial strain on their neighbors in the form of health care and educating the children of illegal immigrants. Posted by: Rey on December 26, 2006 02:02 PMAnd I should have sympathy for them, why??? Posted by: takn on December 26, 2006 04:42 PMI like the "disgruntled neighbor’s call to the authorities" part of the article because I will be that disgruntled caller after the first of the year, when ICE forgets about the holidays and gets back to business. I can't wait. There are (5) illegals just begging to be picked up on my block if I can be persuasive enough. Posted by: cicerores on December 26, 2006 05:02 PMWE BECOME ACCUSTOMMED TO SLAVES After a while the globalists believe illegal slave labor is good for our country and provides the tax base to pay for for Iraq. Its just the opposite. This happenned right before the Civil War too. Posted by: Softwarengineer on December 26, 2006 05:24 PMReally,really,really, duh. Illegals face climate of fear? May actually be deported? You mean, Mr. newspaper reporter illegality is wrong? Nooo!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Bobby on December 26, 2006 06:00 PMTHE SEEDS OF SOMETHING LIKE THE FRENCH OR RUSSIAN REVOLUTION ARE BEING SOWN...WE SIMPLY CAN'T ALLOW 20 MILLION POOR FROM A SINGLE, NEARBY, BACWARD COUNTRY TO QUICKLY BECOME OUR POLICTICAL EQUALS WITHIN THIS SYSTEM. Somebody is bound to act in revolutionary terms, it is totally sure that things will spin out of control within 20 years. 1917 Russia times 100! What the democrats and the "madman at the helm" I'm leaving Texas. I'm sick of it. Today, I was in line at Wal-Mart, and paid for my $14 in groceries with my hard-earned money. Ahead of me in line was a young Mexican family, with the mother and father being about 25 years old apiece. They had 3 children, ranging in age from about 10 to a 2-year old. The 10 year old boy had a cell phone, and was dressed in Polo clothing. The dad had on a FUBU leather jacket (approx $2-300) and $100 Nike sneakers. None of them spoke English, yet none seemed to need to. After their grocery bill came to over $150, the mom pulled out her LoneStar card and WIC coupons, and proceeded to pay for their "necessities", which consisted of steak, beer, and a Univ of Texas hat for the boy. Naturally, the warning popped up on the screen for the items that were not to be covered by welfare and WIC, but the cashier hit "ignore" and away they went. The cashier was Mexican as well. It's a system we cannot fathom... and it's become so large that we cannot stop it. I no longer believe that any elected official has the nation's best interest in mind, as I still see this every day: 1-My property taxes rise as more of them move into my town. This rise is from having to pay for their kids to enter into the local schools. Since they don't have to pay for the meals and books they need, someone else has to. That'd be me. In short, my message to you, the illegal alien from Mexico, is this: "You can have it." Go ahead... you can have Texas back. But, in 20 years, when it's full of poor like yourself who are trying to make do with a financially broke school system, welfare system, and healthcare system, you'll understand. Businesses will move north, retailers will shut down, and police and fire will no longer exist or become corrupt to survive (sort of like Mexico). You won't be able to cry foul anymore, because there won't be any money to fund your precious welfare programs. Employers will leave the state, property values will plummet, and abandoned buildings will become abandoned towns. When this happens, just do me one favor... don't move further north. Stay put, please. Only then will you learn your lesson. If you decide to keep pressing north to push your "Reconquista" movement, I'll keep heading north to stay away from you. Hell, at this rate, I'll be in Alaska by 2030. I feel no sympathy for the farmers. It's time they get off their farms and see what illegals are doing to the rest of America. Things in my life have changed, I have been trying hard to only frequent places that are family or single owner without any illegals. My shopping takes longer now I don't buy products that come from employers of illegals. And Christmas this year was rough, tried to buy made in America only items. This type of change has to be made to ensure America's future. It was politics that cased the civil war. The North put pressure on the government to abolish slavery in the south since they couldn't compete with the labor prices. With that in mind it's time for us to do more than lean on our government to abolish the illegals and send them back to Mexico (or where ever). Since it's big business that wants slave labor QUIT SUPPORTING THEM. Remember back a few years ago when France had riots? It was over labor practices, they won, it took a while but they are the perfect example of POWER TO THE PEOPLE. Posted by: HELEN on December 26, 2006 10:28 PMI will be waiting for my wages as a carpenter to be the same as i was making 8 yrs ago...I have 30 yrs exp but getting paid like i have 10 now ..Because of the illeagles.. no longer middle class ....just a working fool i at 45 do digging sheetrock insulation concrete roofing it all pays the same for me Posted by: randy on December 27, 2006 01:05 AMBalance this wah-wah story of people who have broken the law, both the Mexicans and the farmers, with: People whose lives have been destroyed because of those stolen identities. People who have lost loved ones to the wackos that have come with these poor, hardworking Mexicans. The rapes of our women and children. The gang activities associated with them. The absolute deterioration of many of our cities. The downgrading of our children's education due to having to deal with ESL; MALDEF, ACLU, LA RAZA and LULAC always stirring up all kinds of trouble in our schools until the administrators have become their sniveling lapdogs. The closing of hundreds of our hospitals due to their influx. And, if they want to talk about fear, I'm willing to discuss Aztlan with them or the gangs around here who are selecting their victims for their initiation into gang membership by turning off their car lights and following home the first car that has the courtesy to blink their lights to warn them their are off. We should pity them for their fear? This is the same fear criminals have when they've been caught. They knew it was wrong in the first place. The fact is that we have laws, laws that were instituted to protect us from just the things I have described, laws that look at who's coming across that border to be a part of our communities. Everyone can't just decide for themselves who's coming over.... look at what happens. I don't care how "good" they are. They all need to be looked at according to our laws or we lose the voice in who comes over and what I've described above happens. Jeez! I don't even know why we have to fight our own so hard. It's like a no-brainer! Posted by: Faye on December 27, 2006 02:45 AMMay actually be Deported...hahaha They took that chance the second they entered this country illegally. And they knew it was a possibility they could be caught any day. Also, some make it sound like the whole 10 to 12 million illegals (more like over 20 million) only work in the fields picking fruit and stuff. If there were that many in the fields dont you think everything would be picked dry????? "Hiding in the shadows" they should be, thats what criminals do, they hide. If the president and congress ever grant so called "guest worker" (COMPREHENSIVE=AMNESTY) reform, then they should also give amnesty to every other so called misdemeanor crime (shoplifting, certain drug crimes, any and all traffic tickets, etc, etc, etc) All misdemeanors crimes should be forgiven across the board to all in this country,hahaha. But you know they won't because it would involve forgiving U S Ciizens, something that is taboo in this government. Lets all protect the illegals and give this country away and screw the americans...thats whats happening anyway... good bye america, thanks to boosh Posted by: one who knows on December 27, 2006 08:22 AMCIVIL WAR HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF See the whole article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War In part: "...Slavery in the territories The dispute led to open warfare in the Kansas Territory after it was organized by the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854.[22] This act repealed the prohibition on slavery there under the Missouri Compromise, and put the fate of slavery in the hands of the territory's settlers, a process known as "popular sovereignty". Fighting erupted between proslavery "border ruffians" from neighboring Missouri and antislavery immigrants from the North (including John Brown, among other abolitionists). Tensions between North and South now were violent...." More in part, show's that amnesty slavery overpopulation is the perfect storm for a third Party in 2008: "...Causes of the War Well-founded Southern fears of losing control of the Federal government to antislavery forces, and northern fears that the slave power already controlled the government, brought the crisis to a head in the late 1850s. Sectional disagreements over the morality of slavery, the scope of democracy and the economic merits of free labor vs. slave plantations caused the Whig and "Know-Nothing" parties to collapse, and new ones to arise (the Free Soil Party in 1848, the Republicans in 1854, Constitutional Union in 1860). In 1860, the last remaining national political party, the Democratic Party, split along sectional lines. Other factors include states' rights, modernization, sectionalism, the nullification crisis and economic differences between the North and South...." Very interesting indeed, the similarities between then and now.... We do need an Abe Lincoln type President ASAP!
What about the “climate of fear” faced by U.S. citizens, who live under the constant threat of violent crime by the illegals? Or the anxieties of blue collar workers who can only watch as illegals take away their jobs and depress the wages in their industries? Or how about the job loss and wage suppression in the white collar ranks brought on by the H1B job thieves? You know, I used to think there was a clear distinction between legal and illegal immigration, but no more. Both are being used by the elites in DC to destroy the middle class. Both the illegals and the legal skilled immigrants display hostility towards Americans. To top it all off, both the massive levels of legal and illegal migration to the good old USA continues against the will of “We the People”. If our nation is bankrupted and the middle class is destroyed by a mass invasion of third worlders, does it really matter if the invasion was carried out legally or illegally? I don’t think so! I watched just the other day one of those DISCOVERY programs (NYTimes) hosted and written by one of the NYTimes' roaming reporters, and the guy was touring a thoroughbred racing track in New York State, going on and on about all the "immigrants" and "new Americans" "doing the jobs that Americans won't do, working at the wages and in conditions that Americans won't accept" at the track and supporting areas...and then mentioined that these "new Americans" were illegal immigrants who (many of them) "work nine months then go back home to be with their families for four months" (every year, or habitually, I believe the point was). These aren't "new Americans" and they certainly ARE illegal aliens and no one coming and going from one country to another at their own leisure, to service their own needs "back home" in some other nation (in this case, Mexico) has any affiliation as a citizen with the U.S. nor seems to have any intent to do so other than to exploit what is exploitable in the U.S. and then "relax" in some other nation "with their family." If people cannot provide legal wages and decent working conditions here in the U.S. for U.S. citizens and/or legal residents, again I ask (as I have before), why are they even IN business? People offering unacceptable working conditions and lowly wages and who employ illegal aliens accordingly ("because they'll do the work that U.S. citizens won't", accordingly) are as much to blame as are illegal aliens commisserating with them in their "business." But, to hear this roving NYTimes reporter, he describes the environment of these race-track and thoroughbred horse owners' and racers as something heroic, all these "new Americans" (who are illegal aliens who are otherwise supported by the U.S. while working here, or in the case of many of them and their families, not working here but here anyway). Call it what it is: liberal spin for increased social if not communist/marxist systems. I watched that broadcast and wondered that, well, where is ICE? Not like it was a well kept secret, all those illegal aliens, "making the industry work" so the program boasted. Posted by: -S- on December 27, 2006 11:55 AMSpeaking of medical costs, I have a young child and medical insurance, but I know that every time I have to take my child to the emergency room I am going to have to pay out of pocket. The insurance pays for doctors in network, but there is no way to make sure that the ER doctor is in network. The ER doctors are always out of network, in fact, and they charge 3 times the "prevailing rate" that the insurance company is willing to reimburse. If you wait until the second notice to pay then the doctor's billing office threatens to send a collection agency after you. Posted by: Hal K on December 27, 2006 12:42 PMPlease forgive me as I smile inwardly with great satisfaction that some of these farmers and other employers of illegals are feeling fear for their illegal act of hiring these aliens! If they experience even one moment of discomfort and fear, then I am glad! I am glad that they have to feel a little twinge at least for the damage they do to all the rest of us just to increase their darned profits! I know personally of a guy who has a cement business here who hires illegals and guess what?? When they get hurt or injured, he just takes them to the county public hospital for US to cover the costs of his injuries! And you should see how caring he is as he calls them to check up on them in the waiting room, picks them up, takes them home, etc! All the while, you and I pay through the nose so HE can make more--and make more he does! Scared are they? I sure hope so. A little fear in their gut is the least we could ask for and we should at least get that. Posted by: J on December 27, 2006 05:43 PM |
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