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August 15, 2006


Congressional Hearing Spotlights the Strain Illegal Immigration puts on Health Care

In a second day of Congressional Hearings held in Gainesville, GA, the focus was on immigration’s effect on the health care system. Speakers were clear that more needs to be done to insure that those who use public health benefits are legal citizens. Rep Charlie Norwood (R, GA) was quoted by the Associated Press as saying, "Fewer poor Americans get Medicaid because illegal aliens get Medicaid. It's that simple."

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No, the strain is not on Health Care, the strain is on longtime, taxpaying Americans, who are being screwed by their respective "representatives", who support the illegal immigration that leads to the closing of hospitals, and emergency services.

Posted by: Bobby on August 15, 2006 04:35 PM

Thank you Rep. Norwood for taking Ms. Siskin to task for her flaccid response to the problem. Thsi country is floundering under the weight of caring for illegals and their families and I am sick of it!

Posted by: takn on August 15, 2006 06:45 PM

I have worked in healthcare for almost 30 years; and anyone, who says they don't access services hasn't worked in healthcare. They will come into the emergency rooms, in every single hospital I have ever worked in, for a hangnail--and that's includes several states. There is no way anyone, should obtain Medicaid, when the homeless population of this nation often cannot; and the majority of them are US citizens. I don't understand just what the Open Borders Lobby is trying to do, when they turn their backs on US citizens and reward these horrible people. You cannot tell me that even the best illegal is a good person, because they are committing crimes in this country daily just by saying they belong here, work here, have proper IDs and such. I would really like to see our infrastructure have employees, who would just take every single illegal, who presented at them to a detention facility for processing and immediate deportation. It would certainly have saved the hundreds of hospitals and clinics that have been forced to close in this nation. You can believe that US citizens have died, because they could not get to hospitals that used to be close to them because they closed due to lack of payment by illegals, who thought nothing of stealing their services. It is the great shame of this nation, that we don't care about the aging US citizen population or the homeless enough to recognize this impact. Shame on politicians and the politically correct liberals for their stance on illegal immigration. It won't backfire on them as much as it will upon the rest of us. Once again, Democrats--you keep saying you represent the little guy, but you are an enormous part of the problem because you are open borders proponents. This is a fence you cannot straddle.

Posted by: jaded on August 15, 2006 09:39 PM

Notice how the one Representative opposing this premise, is from Cal-ee-for-nee-a, the cesspool for illegal immigration.
Illegals should not be using our emergency rooms or any aspect of our healthcare system. Period.
No one is saying immigration is the reason for everything wrong with our healthcare system, but the billions we spend on illegals could be better spent on our own citizens, 48 million of whom are uninsured. All those morons out there who are so pro-illegal, should open up their own wallets to pay for illegal healthcare and every other benefit that criminals get!

Posted by: Born American on August 15, 2006 09:45 PM

How outrageous of the people who will say anything to try to prove that the illegals that are invading this country are not causing irreperable harm. they are wasting resources, and we citizens can't get help if we need it because there isn't enough to go around.

Posted by: Faylene on August 15, 2006 09:55 PM

Socialism can't work if your country borders on a huge THIRD WORLD NATION like Mexico. The Mexicans nationals will and DO come in to use our limited SOCIALIZED MEDICINE SAFETY NET. I don't care how far left you might be, but that ideal is being crushed by the Mexican FREELOADERS! We will never have a proper safety net with all these GATE CRASHERS!Some of the most hardcore socialists I know are sick about the distruction of our medical services and the trashing of the natural outdoor habitat. The "MIGRANT" are even cruel to their dogs, cats and ROOSTERS! Mexico has green on its flag, but they are by NO MEANS "GRREEN" in lifestyle!

Posted by: Allan S. on August 16, 2006 02:48 AM

I don't know why we're calling them illegal aliens. They are Mexicans, not creatures from outer space. It's too vague. We need to throw the Mexicans out of the emergency rooms. They can afford to go to a clinic and see a Dr. They read the sign that the hospital can't refuse health care to people that can't pay and they take advantage of it. They bring in every child with a cold or the flu and are the rudest people in there. I can't imagine having a real emergency room anymore, the Mexicans have ruined it. The poor American citizens have to pay their bill while the Mexicans are working more, and making more, and screwing us by not reporting it, and getting food stamps and welfare and everything they can. I've worked in emergency rooms as a nurse and it is nothing but FRAUD what the Mexicans are doing. They can speak english but they won't in an emergency room because they know if they only speak spanish they won't have to pay. They are blood sucking leeches.

Posted by: Hombre on August 16, 2006 05:47 AM

I believe the comments made by Rep. Hilda Solis, of California in this article represent Ignorance, stupidity and Irresponsiblity. Being ignorant means you do not know the facts. Being stupid means you can't assimilate the facts. Irresponsibility is when you act or speak with authority of facts you are ignorant of and have not assimilated in the first place. He is fortunate that I vote in Texas

Posted by: Michael on August 16, 2006 12:21 PM

MEDICAID IS LIKE CAR INSURANCE

When an American citizen pays taxes and he gets old/disabled, has a disabled child or gets disabled; he and his family qualifies for Medicaid in a lot of cases. Its no different than using your car insurance for an accident.

If you're here illegally from Mexico and/or you and your family didn't pay the insurance premiums, you get nothing.

Posted by: softwarengineer on August 16, 2006 01:30 PM

In the past two months, I've plunked out about $500.00 for a procedure I needed, but was not covered by my employer's insurance for different reasons. I'm not done yet. On one visit to the doctor's office, an obviously Hispanic woman (new to the area, she said) plunked out her $5.00 co-pay from welfare or social services or something.
Do we need to wonder why people despise immigration and our Congresses' incompetence in dealing with it?

Posted by: Born American on August 16, 2006 03:11 PM

Our President's eyes light up and his face glows when he speaks of illegal aliens and the joy they bring to this country. When he speaks of his own citizens, it only to say what they won't do. I think he owes it to us to face us on TV and give us the answers to the following questions:

1. What are the benefits of the invasion of illegal aliens to the middle class of this country ?
2. What does it benefit the middle class when jobs are outsourced, or foreign labor insourced?
3. What are the benefits of filling our schools with non-English speaking children?
4. Is it good for a country to have so much diversity that we have enclaves of people who continue with their own culture and traditions and ignore our laws?
5. Is it really good for the American taxpayer to be continually burdened financially by illegal aliens who seem to have money for souped-up cars blasting Hispanic music and cell phones in every ear? At the recent opening of a new mall in my area, they were out in force, their arms loaded with packages. Just where are they getting all this money?

The questions could go on and on, but I sure would like some answers from all the pro-illegals in this country.

Posted by: June on August 16, 2006 05:53 PM

I attended both hearings in Dalton and Gainesville since they were in my state. Several medical professionals testified about how Georgia hospitals are going bankrupt. After the lady from the CRS gave her 20 min. rendition, Charlie Norwood really blasted her. He basically accused her of false testimony. The politician from California was outrageous. She accused one of the medical professionals on the panel of over charging illegals and taking advantage of them just because his testimony was quite compelling and against her side. It was unbelievable. Overall in both hearings the illegals were blasted. Charlie Norwood said that the Senate bill would not go through. Congressman Deal said he would be sponsoring a bill to stop birth right citizenship. In both hearings there were very few illegals. The general mood of the Americans is okay then let's see some action. One man almost got thrown out of the Gainesville meeting because he yelled out "Close the dam border!".

Posted by: Sharon on August 16, 2006 07:40 PM

Your right Hombre, they are working----- "and" getting food stamps, free breakfast and lunch at schools, discounts on utility bills, low cost housing, low cost mortgages (thank you stupid American taxpayer) etc. etc.etc.etc.etc. When they go visit relatives back in Mexico, what must the conversations about El Norte be like. It's easy to imagine.

Posted by: Bobby on August 16, 2006 07:48 PM

"Immigrants use less health care services than American citizens; immigrants use emergency rooms less than nonimmigrants," said Rep. Hilda Solis, of California, the lone Congressional Democrat at the hearing organized by House Republicans.

Please keep in mind when you see a quote like this that the US-born children of illegal aliens are US citizens. Their health care is not counted as a cost caused by immigrants.

Remember the story a couple of weeks ago about the illegal alien couple with 10 US-born children: 3 teenaged daughters, a set of 3-year-old triplets, and a set of new-born quads? One of the triplets was born with a brain abnormality and needed 3 operations that kept him in the hospital for almost all of his first 3 years of life. That alone had to have cost a fortune. ALL of the health care used by these children is counted as being used by US citizens. ALL OF IT.

When you consider that over 350,000 of these children are being born each year, that adds up. I read recently that in some hospitals in areas heavily populated by immigrants, half of the emergency room costs are delivering such children.

Just another little way that the MSM and the Open Borders Lobby distort the truth.

Posted by: D Flinchum on August 17, 2006 08:29 AM

"But Alison Siskin, an immigration specialist with the Congressional Research Service, said studies have been unclear as to whether the presence of illegal immigrants has much impact on government health care."

What's the old saying? "Look after your pennies and your dollars will look after themselves."

The claim that 15 million illegals - mostly uninsured - don't make health care more expensive is a crock. There' a PUBLICLY FUNDED health care clinic near where I work. In a town that's 90%+ white, 80% of its customers speak Spanish. People at work call it the "Mexican Free Clinic."

Posted by: Craig on August 17, 2006 03:18 PM
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Mexican Ambassador Urges Immigration Reform

Mexican Ambassador Carlos de Icaza spoke at the third annual Border Security Conference at the University of Texas at El Paso, and acknowledged the right of the United States to increased border security, but argued that more can be done through cooperation with Mexico. He was quoted by the Associate Press as saying "We respect the right of every country in the world ... to enforce its laws and protect its borders. But enforcement by itself won't be enough." The AP went on to report, “He praised the growing cooperation that has allowed increased trade and security efforts between Mexico and the United States while encouraging U.S. lawmakers to approve reforms that allow ‘legal, safe and orderly human migration.’" Icaza admitted that Mexico is at least partly to blame for the current immigration situation.

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At least Icaza is admitting "that Mexico is partly to blame." Yes, the United States could and should do a lot more to help its southern neighbors, as we did in Europe post-WWII, Japan, China...we're trying in Iraq...and such help needs to be far more creative and intelligent than loading these countries with debt or handing them blank checks.

From my perspective, Hispanic culture will not reach its potential here in the English-speaking United States, and the aspirations of La Raza are best served in countries where Hispanics comprise the majority. This does not mean there is no place for Hispanic minorities in the United States, but where we once had enrichment, we now have reconquista, and this needs to stop.

Posted by: FCannon on August 15, 2006 02:06 PM

This talk of migration is exactly the problem with this line of thinking. We have only begun to see the far reaching impact of a migration of people that for the most part do not want to become Americans. Yet Illegal imagrants use all the facilities that tax payers pay for i.e. Hospitals, Schools" teaching in spanish!" and I blame the goverment for this mess and hope that they can do what they are elected to do "up hold the laws of the land " instead of creating laws to patch a very sereous problem. We learned this lesson in 1996 when we granted emunity to illegal aliens. I figure that it will probably take an act of terrorism by an illegal for this presedent and congress to relise that safty is sometimes better than there almighty dollar for there reelection. We need to find representatives that are true public servants and not self servants. or servants to big business or other countrys "mexico" befor the legal citizens of this country. God bless America land of representatives that do not protect our interests

Posted by: Adam Young on August 15, 2006 02:16 PM

Thank God there is someone in Mexico, in an influential position, that is sane about this issue.
It's good Mr. De Icaza acknowledged Mexico's responsibility in this, too.
I would take it one step further and call for Mexicans to return to their homeland and to respect American language and culture while they are here. I'd also call off the dogs of various advocacy groups like La Raza.

Posted by: Born American on August 15, 2006 03:31 PM

Mr. Ambassador: CALL YOUR PEOPLE HOME! INSPIRE THEM TO COME BACK TO MEXICO AND BUILD A BETTER FUTURE FOR THEMSELVES THERE.

Posted by: contessa on August 15, 2006 03:35 PM

Adam, your right, we have representatives who don't represent. It is interesting, isn't it, that Americans agree to take so much abuse. Paying ,paying, paying, through the nose, for class A services for people who don't even belong here.

Stupid, foolish, lazy, unconcerned, idiots, are words for us Americans that fall short of the mark.

Posted by: Bobby on August 15, 2006 03:52 PM

"...Mexico is PARTLY to blame?" Gee, thanks Mr.
Ambassador. That and many other illegal enterprises. Hopefully, we will clean house in November, then get the big prize in 2008 - someone who cares more about his own people than every illegal aliens who breaks in. We need someone with enough backbone to stand up and say "no mas!"

Posted by: June on August 15, 2006 06:15 PM

Does working closer with Mexico mean this corrupt nation will continue to affect the sovereignty of the US, since that has been their history for so many decades, who can count anymore? We don't want to fill this country with their low skilled, illiterate "citizens" anymore. Just what in the world is it going to take Mexican politicians, let alone US politicians to understand this. They don't assimilate, which means they don't want to be Americans--they just want to bleed us dry. Deport every one, who is in this country illegally.

Posted by: jaded on August 15, 2006 09:29 PM

They are not immigrants. I wish I would of been there to spit in his face.

Posted by: Marty on August 16, 2006 05:50 AM

Tell him to pack sand! and leave with Illegals!
War! is comming just when is the ??? When Bush and Traitors are gone!!!

Pro Patria!

Posted by: Critter on August 16, 2006 06:21 AM

WHERE'S YOUR COUNTRY'S BIRTH CONTROL?

At last report, from a friend that just went to Mexico, your country is crawling with kids running around all over the place and moms all by themselves. All the fathers are up here illegally working and stealing our jobs at cutrate wages.

You've ran out of water and you were way over populated when your population was 50,000,000, let alone today's 100,000,000.

Your country is sick and needs immediate birth control. I'd be dispersing birth control pills and educating the masses of moms left at home today in masses. Its too late for your country, but its not our problem.

Deal with it!

[FAIR comment: Mexico has a very active, public family planning program, and the Mexican birth rate has been dropping significantly in recent years.]

Posted by: softwarengineer on August 16, 2006 01:38 PM

So, "Mexico, is partly to blame", according to Mr. Icaza.

Actually, Mexico is completely to blame. The Mexican government and Mexican government officials make choices to engage in corruption and to not enforce laws and to make the legal, social, and economic environment inhospitable for its own citizens. Mexican citizens make the decision to come illegally to the US rather than engage in the work that would make their own country livable. Rich Mexicans choose to engage in discriminatory practices against their fellow citizens.

The US is not responsible for ANY of Mexico's problems.

US citizens are not responsible for any of Mexico's problems.

On the contrary, the MExican government and MExican citizens should be grateful to US citizens and the US government that we tolerate so much from them and still allow them to send back, tax-free, so much money (24 billion this year) in remittances without ever requiring them to pay for all the free medical care, education, and other perks they receive here.

The United States and its citizens have no resonsibility to MExico for anything. Nothing.

The only real problem Mexicans have is themselves and their inablity to take honest responsibility for themselves, their government, their culture, and their country.

Posted by: Yolanda on August 16, 2006 03:42 PM

we should immediately adopt the same immigration laws for Mexicans that Mexico has for everyone else. Then watch them complain.

Tell you congressman that there is no proposal to stem illegal immigration that you would consider "too Draconian".

Posted by: Arthur on August 17, 2006 12:44 PM
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Jury Members Admit Misgivings Leading to Border Patrol Agents Conviction

Several jury members have spoken out regarding the conviction of Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, two border patrol agents convicted of violating the civil rights of a drug smuggler. The jurors claim they were pressured by the foreman and other jurors to come to a unanimous decision quickly to avoid a lengthy trial. Grassfire, a grassroots organization, has collected 40,000 signatures on behalf of Ramos and Compean to petition President Bush. Thousands of letters have also poured in supporting the border patrol agents who claim they were only doing their job.

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A GROSS miscarriage of justice!

Posted by: Cathy Ivy on August 15, 2006 02:44 PM

One more problem with illegal immigration---it makes a mockery and farce of our legal system.
This conviction should be overturned and the "pressure people" punished.

Posted by: Born American on August 15, 2006 03:34 PM

Who were the jury members anyway? Mexican reconquistas? They could also have been stupid Americans, who are usually but not always liberals.
Or perhaps they were Bush administration operatives. I can't think of another traitorous group at the moment. Can anyone else?

Posted by: Bobby on August 15, 2006 04:05 PM

THE INMATES ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM!!! How many times will we have to read, hear, or see reports about the "ILLEGAL" aliens getting preferential treatment as oppose to us "LAW-ABIDING" citizens! A few months back a rancher lost his ranch to illegals, and don't get me started about government benefits given to them from the hard-working taxpayers. This case was a travesty and an affront to the American people, and I mean the American People of the United States of America. Not Mexico, Canada, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Belize, Nicaragua, Costa Rico, Panama, Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana, Peru, Brazil, Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, nor Argentina. It was an is a travesty and an affront to the people whom called themselves Americans and are recognized as such WORLDWIDE! Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean should receive commendations for their bravery and integrity in the face of constant danger. If instead of dope (What happened to the War On Drugs) it was a "Dirty Bomb"?! Would they have even considered trying these honorable public servants... I don't just think not, I KNOW NOT! I don't care a wit about compromising for a unanimous verdict. If I am aware of right and wrong and I know the law, to hell with a quick verdict. From what I've been able to gather, I call for a mistrial as two jurors were clearly intimidated and afraid to render the opinions that were in their hearts and minds. Did they fear a reprisal... even if it was psychological? I move for a new trial or better yet for a complete Dismissal of Charges if not a Full Pardon. I have more to say but I need a stiff drink to calm my nerves, or better yet a chance to VOTE!

Posted by: United Statesian on August 15, 2006 04:34 PM

I definately signed the petition. Anyone who would allow a drug smuggler to go free and convict these men is a traitor to this country! The federal govt. is becoming a laughing stock, at our expense!

Posted by: takn on August 15, 2006 06:55 PM

If border patrol personnel cannot chase illegal aliens, then how are they expect to catch them. Most of the illegals smuggling drugs are not going to stop for border patrol or police. We have spent millions on technology to watch illegals cross the borders but we cannot do anything else. The Federal government has gone completely crazy.

Posted by: Beckyal on August 15, 2006 07:15 PM

I simply do not understand how any US citizen could allow international drug dealing scum to have any rights. I don't care what some liberal says about the rights of these sociopaths, and that is exactly what they are. Drugs create such a social problem in this nation, and they drain our tax coffers. I applaud these men of the Border Patrol and would like to thank them for their efforts to keep this country safe. The American Constitution guarantees US citizens that the federal government will do something about foreign invasions. If 20 - 30 million illegals, plus their drug dealing cartels and other sociopaths, psychopaths and antisocial idiots, aren't an invasion, then what in the hell is? Some legal institution needs to get involved to help American citizens, who are just trying to do their jobs. Maybe when people get arrested for doing their jobs, it just means that fewer Americans will do those jobs. Then, the idiotic open borders lobby scumbags can continue to believe there are jobs that Americans will not do. OK, Democratic Party--you continue to tout that you represent the little guy. Well, you liars, here are two American citizens that need you to advocate for them. They were among the few, who were actually doing their jobs, unlike you, who have disavowed your sworn oaths, when you became employees of the American people. Your silence in this matter will speak volumes to American citizens, and we are listening. Well, Howard, Hillarious, Slick Willy, Cadillac Eddy? Got anything to say or does the cat have your tongues? If you've got time to point fingers at everyone else, pound your shoes on tables and scream until your faces turn people and your voices get so high pitched dogs howl--you've got time to help these men. Lead, follow, or get out of the way!

Posted by: jaded on August 15, 2006 09:25 PM

Federal Govt. needs cleaned out from TRAITORS,that being key word! From Bush on down in Govt, US Citizens have been BETRAYED! TREASON!
comes to mind! The US Attorney's Office in El Paso must be full of Traitors & the JURY what a joke.

Pro Patria!!!

Posted by: Critter on August 16, 2006 06:33 AM

ORGANIZED CRIME HAS EARS AND EYES EVERYWHERE

Its hard being a jury member if your company witholds pay when you're gone.

If I was on that jury, I'd tell the Bendict Arnold spies to go to Hades and I'd hang the jury for months, until justice occurred.

Posted by: softwarengineer on August 16, 2006 01:43 PM

It goes to show you who really comes first in the eyes of the Bush Andministration; Vicente Fox & Company, and to hell with 'real' citizens of the USA! The trial itself was a travesty of justice, with a verdict to match!

When you stop to think that our Federal government sent an FBI and a Homeland Security Agent to Mexico to seek out this smuggler and offer him immunity for his testimony in this case, is an absolutely treasonous act. The people involed in this act of treason should absolutely be punished!
Thank God Bush will soon be gone! He has managed to make sure that almost the whole world now looks down on us with utter contempt as the leader of the 'free-world'! Bush has also managed to put himself as the 'poster-boy' for recruitment of terrorist throughout the Muslim Commmunity, from his 'mis-placed' aggressive actions towards terrorism, via the Iraqi war! Wouldn't it of been better to fight them by 'super-sizing' our intelligence networks, and instantly putting a moritorium on ALL immigration to the US! Instead he creates another useless beaucracy and calls it the Homeland Security! Then in his next move of brilliance, wants an Arab company to over-see our ports-of-entry! The list goes on! I'm sure alot of us have lists of complaints!
God Bless America

Posted by: Born in the USA on August 17, 2006 08:59 AM

I signed the petitions. Then I went to Congress.org and wrote the President and my congressional representatives about this OUTRAGE. Then I sent a letter to the editor of the local paper. He, however, hasn't even seen fit to print an article about the border patrolmen yet. Possibly because we have 2 chambers of commerce: the regular one everyone has and the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. This concept rather boggles my mind.

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Missing Egyptian Students are Accounted For

The last of missing exchange students who came to the United States to attend a month-long college course at the Montana State University in Bozeman have been detained. Seventeen exchange students entered the United States from Egypt, but only six reported to the program. The exchange students are not considered a terrorism risk at the present time.

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This time the absconders are accounted for, with no explanation as to why they did what they did in the first place, the rats!!!!
How many more are not accounted for or won't be in the future episodes?

Posted by: Born American on August 15, 2006 03:41 PM

And if they were a terrorism risk do you think the Bush Administration would tell us?

Posted by: Craig on August 15, 2006 03:45 PM

This stuff with the Egyptian students is so much B.S
When put into perspective, how many Americans are ever going to be involved in a terrorist incident? But illegal immigration, which this government will do little to nothing about, and is itself a form of terrorism(murders, rapes, child molestations, by illegals,etc.)will continue to suck the life out of this country and Americans, in countless ways--culturally, economically, socially, etc.-- by masses of unassimilated, American hating people.

Posted by: Bobby on August 15, 2006 04:16 PM

6 outta 17 aint bad! ;) what I want to know is how much did we pay to 'find' these 'students'?

Posted by: FornaxUltor on August 15, 2006 06:33 PM

The fact that they disappeared the minute they landed means they had no intention of going to Montana...and why did they choose MSU? Because it was an easy mark, eager to invite foreign students and line the coffers with lucrative tuition and fees...

The young men have "no known terrorist ties"...that's what organizations like Al Queda are recruiting now, virgins, so to speak, ready, willing and able to carry out their bidding and no criminal record or ties to muddy the waters.

Posted by: takn on August 15, 2006 06:58 PM

Some of them might have been here to teach the illegal aliens crossing the southern border. More and more of them are converting.

Posted by: Beckyal on August 15, 2006 07:17 PM

Where were they? What WERE they doing? They didn't allow us to read the story.

No "KNOWN" ties terrorists. . . not yet!

Are they going to be stupid enough to allow them to go to the college to "make-up" the class before sending them on their way?

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on August 15, 2006 07:37 PM

I was born and raised in Montana and it is not the state to decide to live in, if one isn't going to be an above board foreigner. There is such a large portion of the state where people can and will disappear. How very stupid they were to believe they were in some backwards, hillbilly state, where they could do whatever they liked. Montanans and those, who moved to the state from other parts of the nation, won't put up with a lot. Do the words 'lock and load' mean anything to them? They need to be deported, as they have already lied and begun a deceitful process that should not be tolerated any longer.

Posted by: jaded on August 15, 2006 09:11 PM

Jaded,

I too am a native Montanan. After spending most of my working career in Washington and Oregon, it is nice to be able to come back home. You are absolutely right in the phrase "lock and loaded" as these people stand out and we do deport them! We have no need for them and they are not welcome.

Posted by: Jack on August 16, 2006 08:51 PM

We moved back to Texas when my husband retired from the Navy to take care of my parents. Also because I remembered Texas as not putting up with some of the things tolerated in the other states we had been in. However.... Texas has changed. My parents won't be with us long, and we're looking at moving when the time comes. Montana sounds great.

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Is Phoenix the New Los Angeles?

Phoenix, now the sixth largest city in the United States, has seen its population double since the 1990, and will see it double again in the next 8 years. The city itself has grown, encompassing 517 square miles, and is now larger than Los Angeles. Along with a larger population and area, crime too has risen in Phoenix. “Arizona's crime rate has been recognized as the worst in the nation. According to the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission, Arizona ranks first in property crime and motor-vehicle theft, second in larceny, fourth in burglary and fifth in murder,” reports the Washington Post. They go on to report, “By 2020, it is estimated, 35 percent of its population will be Hispanic, up from 28 percent today,” leaving schools unequipped to deal with an extensive non-English speaking population. "It's becoming more and more like L.A.," said Diane Thompson a transplant from Southern California.

(See FAIR’s report on the fiscal costs of illegal immigration in Arizona here.)

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PRECISELY the reason I moved out recently. My old neighborhood became overrun with mexican gang-bangers. The week I moved my neighbor told me 2 or three gang shootings occurred on the block. 6 months earlier the neighborhood was not at all that way.
I 100% blame the illegal-loving Gov. Napolitano who has set a record for vetoing legislation that would have dealt with this problem.
When I sold my home, not one single American came to look. ALL where non-English speaking mexicans. The invasion is happening at a very rapid pace. Where do these people get CASH to buy a house?

Posted by: D on August 15, 2006 02:40 PM

How sad that our once great cities are becoming dumps and costing taxpayers money.
Our government would rather push political correctness and "humaness" and line their own pockets, rather than serve and protect this country.

Posted by: Born American on August 15, 2006 03:37 PM

Pray that Don Goldwater takes the Governor's office in November before it is too late for the people of Phoenix and all of Arizona as well. Nappy is just too busy brown nosing the pro-illegal and open border crowds to see the mess that she created.

Posted by: John Myrick on August 15, 2006 03:41 PM

By the time I get to Phoenix........Glenn Campbell.

I remember the last time I traveled through Phoenix. It was a mid-sized town with no smog, and made a pleasant impression on me. I don't think I'd be interested now. I live close to L. A., and according to the article above, I'd be right back in Los Angeles, Mexcio.

Posted by: Bobby on August 15, 2006 04:00 PM

Phoenix, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Diego - 4 of the US's fastest growing cities. Guess what else they have in common? Arid climates. Right now that might not seem important, but in 5 years or so it will be *very* important. Out here in the West, the weather goes in cycles - 5 years or so of good moisture, followed by another 5 or so of...welll, not so good moisture.

During the last drought cycle (2004) Lake Mead almost disappeared. Lake Powell was at its lowest level since it was first filling up with water. Dozens of Utah reservoirs nearly dried up.

We are about 2 years into the current high-moisture cycle. In 8 years, 2014, near the end of the next drought cycle and 2 years into Hillary's second term as POTUS, we will be in a VERY bad way.

Posted by: Craig on August 15, 2006 04:42 PM

I remember passing thru that city a number of times in the 80's and thinking it was a nice place. Of course, I never spent any time there. It just seemed nice.
Subsequently, I have met people from Pheonix and said what I said above; that it seemed like a nice place. I was always curious about the mysterious second and a half hesitation-the half head shake and then tacit disavowal of their city.
Its all clear to me now.
I recently had a discussion with a couple from Denver over breakfast. From reading Stein Report and others, I am MORE than aware than the advanced state of atrophy that the residents of that city must endure.
This couple, now that I think about it, displayed the same furtive behavior. (evasion of unpleasant truth is its name) (Inability to state publicly the cause is its Primary Symptom) (So muc for freedom of speech-even in private conversations over a congenial sunday morning breakfast) (CHECK PLEASE!)

Posted by: FornaxUltor on August 15, 2006 06:01 PM

D,

The money illegals have for purchasing homes comes straight from government sponsored loans.
Again, this is just part of the big picture of globalization. I'd love to see those bankers get stuck with all these houses if we get a president who will send them packing.

Posted by: June on August 15, 2006 06:08 PM

D- they are qualifying for loans just like you and I and without proper documentation...banks who allow this should lose their federal backing and I hope that when the dust settles they end up with every damn one of those houses back in their laps!

Posted by: takn on August 15, 2006 06:47 PM

No takn, I mean they are paying cash money. No loans, just dead presidents. I've known a few people who have sold their homes to mexicans who've paid cash.... hundreds of thousands of dollars. Just seems suspicious to me. Probably smugglers.

Posted by: D on August 15, 2006 08:19 PM

I'm on record as thinking that the southernmost counties of California should be offered to our attackers from Mexico, to save the rest of the nation. Arizona could serve as an alternaive as well as the rest of the Gasden Purchase lands. We need to remove the gangenous parts to save the rest of our territory. I don't like the prospect one bit, but it may be the only way short of the nastiest kind of war to save tens of millions of Mexican and American war casualties. Like the proverbial lizard tail, we may have to cut the Gadsden land loose. If we can't wake up the stupid trolls among us within the next 3-5 years, it will be impossible to remain the America we know. Don't let this national fiasco go any further. March in the street! If you can get phone commitments for 5,000 to protest in public in a dozen cities, the Senate and Congress will have to take note, and change their plans. The election in November may
allow a full turn-about in policy. For Mr. BOOSH, a bill of impeachment should be filed for his extra-legal creation of the new NORTH AMERICAN UNION!

Posted by: Allan S. on August 16, 2006 02:15 AM

I think we should all start writing letters to companies hiring illegals saying that we know what they are doing and have reported them to ICE. Let them worry about paying a fine at least.

Posted by: Parker on August 16, 2006 05:38 AM

To Allen S.

RE: Your idea to offer the southernmost parts of the country to the Mexicans to cut off the gangrenous parts.

It won't work. You see, Mexicans will only view that as a sign of weakness. They are very, very persistent people--and very opportunistic people. Once you give them that part, they will just continue to come in illegally to what the new US is. No. No, not a good idea.

What needs to be done is:

enforce current immigration laws.

Make immigration laws tougher, i.e. no anchor babies.

Build the wall.

Deport every illegal Mexican. Be tough and do it.

SEnd troups to the border.

Tell the Mexican president, whoever he is, that they need to start working on keeping their people there in Mexico, or, they will not like the consequences if they don't.

And if necessary, militarily kick Mexico's a** right back across the Rio Grande.

Force is the only think Mexicans understand.

Trust me, I know. I've been married to Mexicans twice. I've lived in Mexico. I've taught Mexicans in school. I owned a business where all of my clientele was Mexican. Being nice doesn't work with these people. They view that as weakness. They think kindness and politeness are an invitation to take advantage and to take more than what is being offered.

Hold the line at the Rio Grande!

Posted by: Yolanda on August 16, 2006 03:54 PM

To D on August 15, 2006

I'm wondering where they get the money, too. When the house next door was up for sale, my granddaughter tried to buy it. She was told by the realtor that it already had a contract on it and that the contract would go through because it was for cash -- $75,000. When the people moved in, they are hispanic, and there's 3 brand new cars in the driveway. Since the house includes a big storage/workshop in the back, I'm really curious.

Posted by: Faye on August 18, 2006 06:23 PM
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35.7 MILLION IMMIGRANTS IN 2005

A new estimate released by the Census Bureau indicates the rapid rise in the foreign born population continues since the 2000 Census. The estimate is that in 2005 the immigrant population was 35.7 million residents. That’s one-in-every-eight residents in the country. The rate of increase since 2000, if it continues would nearly double the immigrant population to 62 million by 2025. Commentators say the Census Bureau estimates, based on the American Community Survey, undercount the foreign born population because many illegal aliens avoid being included.

FAIR’s population projection,
based on current legislative
proposals can be read here.

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Sickening, just sickening...
We can't sustain these numbers and this country is floundering under the weight of dealing with so many millions of ignorant, impoverished souls...

Posted by: takn on August 15, 2006 11:02 AM

Damn! Just missed the 100 Million work mark by 64.3 Million.... Gotta work hard in 2006!!!

God Bless America...

Posted by: EvilMind on August 15, 2006 01:39 PM

I moved to Georgia from Northern Virginia in 1999. I was surprised to see how many foreigners were living in Georgia. I didn't know about illegal immigration then and assumed everyone I saw or met was legal. Since 1999, I have been traveling back and forth between Georgia and Northern Virginia on business and am SHOCKED each time I return to Virginia. There are so many foreigners living in the Washington, DC metro area. There numbers seem to increase every 6 months or so. I find this alarming as we should be controlling our borders and ports and being so close to Washington, DC, you would think the government would protect itself more since the 9/11 attacks. I agree, most foreigners are not terrorist but some are. They don’t announce themselves, they blend in. I don’t want racism to be a part of my life, however, I feel we as American citizens should have confidence in our government that they are doing their jobs by screening who is coming into America.

Posted by: Donna P. on August 15, 2006 02:06 PM

Our elected leaders have decided that the best policy for America is to replace Americans.

They keep talking about how Americans just aren't having enough children - when the data clearly shows that the reason Americans aren't having more kids is because it's too expensive to have them. Wages are shrinking, and the costs of living in a decent, safe neighborhood are practically unbearable.

So what is the GOP doing? In order to cover up their failed leadership and the fact that they have sold themselves out like prostitutes to special interests, they're trying to cover themselves with the fig leaf of "moral issues" - stem cells, flag burning, gay marriage, and what-not.

I am opposed to most abortions (though not stem cell research). I am opposed to gay marriage. I am staunchly in favor of decking anyone caught burning a flag (though not throwing them in jail). But I am absolutely, completely fed-up with lying poltiicians who trying to buy off voters with these issues.

But more than polticians, I'm fed up with the idiots and rubes who buy their shtick. Maybe they do deserve to be replaced.

Posted by: Craig on August 15, 2006 03:43 PM

I am your typical fairly left-leaning college professor. Yet I am also an immigrant to the USA (from Canada), and remain disgusted at the shocking problems related to those wishing to immigrate legally and bring their families, while illegals seem to be getting more rights than me.

What kind of government (and Republicans at that) allow so many to enter, live, and work illegally while throwing up huge barriers to those law-abiding people that are doing it the proper way.

Wake up America, you would be shocked to the core if you knew about the problems of immigrating legally. The system is broken, and no-one is willing to fix it, while illegals gain more and more political power.

Posted by: Dr. SR on August 15, 2006 05:50 PM

This seems to be high-end figure...BUT IS REALLY LOW...LOW...when you combine the legals with the ILLEGALS! That combined figure is more like 50 million. You should see the parks in the San Fernando Valley about 30 miles from my rural bario home . In a five acre park today I counted 341 users there, families with their kids, No group thing, just about 40 families picnicing or playing informal family soccer. I went to a Community Health Clinic & waited about 2 hours. 95% of the clients were likely illegals with babies! At the local hiring corner,there were 65 day laborers with little work to be had.

SO HERE IS MY DRASTIC "WAKE-UP" SCENARIO!

California's south ought to be shed like a lizard tail can be sacrificed (detached) to a predator.By cedeing the 6 southern California counties back to Mexico as a peace offering, we might do well as a nation to take such a drastic step. The trade off could be getting the 30 million illegals to relocate there. An enclave around Hollywood Studios, LAX , the West side mansions and beach communities could be kept like a kind of American Hong Kong until the turn of the century. Santa Barbara County would be the southern-most, west coast U.S. city, after the L.A. enclave is handed over in 2100 to the Mexican nation.The southern counties, if kissed off to Mexico,might serve to finally wake up the stupid a-- ho--s, who don't see the mortal danger to the nation. I was born in L.A. county,but I be willing to sacrifice it like a gangrenous leg to save the nation. The present L.A. ALCALDE, his HONOR, Sr. Villaragosa, since his loyalty is to Mexican culture, not the American dream, would make a good transition czar. The transition can be carried out over 10 to 15 years. This is how bad it is. It is like the swordsman who has been cleanly decapitated. Proof will be when he shakes his head and it falls to the floor! Wake up, you stupid yanque voters! You are in DEEP DENIAL! 2 or 3 more years and we will be Scr----!

Posted by: Allan S. on August 16, 2006 01:55 AM

George Bush has got to go. We cannot trust the future of America to this man. His determined procrastination to close the border is costing us too much. He is standing in the way of the people who want to secure America and send the invading hordes of Mexicans back. They are robbing every American citizen of something. They breed like mice overpopulating Mexico and then they come here to reduce the strain. Over 30% on federal assistance, it makes me sick. Who works? I think 20 % is in prison. The cost is too high, Bush has to send the army to the border or get out of the way of the people that will.

Posted by: princess on August 16, 2006 05:33 AM

We are going to be out numbered by damn Mexican illegals and they are going to be pampered because they are slaves while they quietly get enough votes to take over the U.S. I watched hordes of Iranians shout death to America on the news today and George Bush and his actions are going to be the end of America. Why he hasn't been thrown out of office or impeached I'll never know. Our presidents are getting worse and worse and worse. I hope Tancredo runs or we are going to lose America., Our senators suck.

Posted by: Whataninny on August 16, 2006 06:09 AM
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