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March 23, 2006


Georgia Reform Bill Passes State House 123-51

"The Georgia House of Representatives on Thursday approved a bill aimed at curbing taxpayer benefits to illegal immigrants and regulating the employers that hire them. Senate Bill 529, authored by state Sen. Chip Rogers (R-Woodstock), passed by a vote of 123-51 after less than two hours of discussion as leaders in the immigrant community called for a boycott and work stoppage on Friday in protest," the Atlanta Business Chronicle reports. "Rep. Alan Powell of Hartwell, one of several Democrats who voted for SB 529, called it a measure that did not go far enough but 'might actually encourage some of those Congressmen to stop playing games ... and to start enforcing the law. What part of 'illegal' does our Congress not understand?' he asked. Reached for comment by the Stein Report, D.A. King of the Dustin Inman Society said, "It's the culmination of a year and a half of very, very hard work. We have set the standard for state level activist-led reform. State Sen. Chip Rogers should be praised for being one of the most courageous legislators in the country and one can only hope the United States senate can be as brave."

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"leaders in the immigrant community called for a boycott and work stoppage on Friday in protest"

Oh no, not another work stoppage. I think Georgia will survive a "work stoppage." It may even show just how little Georgia needs these so-called workers. Life will go on without their "tremendous contributions to the Georgia economy." Although, the price of onions could go up a couple of cents. Hope it doesn't break y'all.

Posted by: Citizen Jim on March 23, 2006 06:58 PM

It`s great Georgia passed this bill, now let`s see it enforced, just like Az prop 200 hasn`t been... It`s just amazing how pro illegal clowns start with the name calling, boycotting, and other stupid stuff, when Americans want there immigration laws enforced... If alot of other states took the lead, and cracked down on illegal immigration, like no benefits, jobs, etc., the illegals would have no choice, but to go back where they belong... Will that ever happen, probably not, because the corrupt politicians won`t let it happen, and guess who continues too pay the price, us my friends!

Posted by: AMERICAN on March 23, 2006 08:12 PM

Excellent news Georgia! More power to you and I hope and pray that you meet with success, rather than just more legislation that is never enforced!

Posted by: takn on March 24, 2006 02:01 AM

I guess I need to move there when I get out of the service... seems like a decent law abiding state.

Posted by: Greg on March 24, 2006 03:31 AM

I hope that many of us will go to Mr. Rogers' website and send him an email thanking him for his great courage and tenacity. He is truly a hero!

Posted by: J on March 24, 2006 08:56 AM

The restrictionists may think they have won a great victory, but all they have really done is raise the cost of doing business in Georgia, which will ultimately result in higher prices for consumers. As owner and CEO of a real estate firm, I find the rising anti-immigrant, anti-business sentiment in this country to be disturbing.

If D.A. King, and the minutemen can get laws passed to make life hard for immigrants, bunisesses owners, and consumers, then perhaps we in the business community should start denying services to those who belong to the restriction movement.

Posted by: RobM on March 24, 2006 10:08 AM

RobM, keep playing chess that way, and the people will throw you in jail on a RICO conviction. What you need to understand is that there has been a rising anti-worker and anti-American sentiment within boardrooms for decades, and now there's a growing backlash. The immigration reform movement rose out of economic hardship, not thin air.

Posted by: FCannon on March 24, 2006 10:30 AM

Go ahead RobM. Start denying services to 80% of the public. That sould be great for your bottom line. Better yet, provide insurance and pay additional taxes to offset the cost of the social services currenly provided at taxpayor's expense. The "business community" brought this on themselves. Greed greed greed...

Posted by: Citizen Jim on March 24, 2006 10:33 AM

RobM,

Are you saying that the laws of the land should not be obeyed. If so I would love to take my 300z down the freeway at 150 miles per hour.

Better yet how about the issue of majority rule. The majority of Americans do not want illegal aliens here period and they sure as hell don't want to support them as the new welfare class.

The resources in this country are not unlimited and should be kept for the citizens in our country and not every tom, dick and harry who want in. It's not our job to support the rest of the world.

Instead of having a country we can be proud of you will see if become a cess pool within a single generation if we just allow anyone in our country as they bring disease, poverty and CRIME to our country.

We have the ability to put every American to work fulltime but big business doesn't want it that way because then they would acutally have to pay a decent wage and maybe provide some benefits.

Right now the youth in France are rioting because jobs their are scarce. What do you think will happen when all of the sudden Americans have to compete with 20 million illegal aliens for jobs. It will make the protest during the 60s look like childs play.

Brian

Posted by: Brian on March 24, 2006 10:44 AM

"...all they have really done is raise the cost of doing business in Georgia, which will ultimately result in higher prices for consumers."

This is myopic, but it's a common misperception among business leaders.

First, when consumers are unemployed or underemployed, they don't have disposable income to spend, so they don't care if prices are lower. Some things could not even be given away...a LearJet is worthless to someone who can't maintain it. And a lot of people, millions, are barely scraping by while more and more people come here and take their jobs away. This phenomenon of foreign labor displacing native-born labor (of all ethnicities except Hispanic) during the latest expansion has been well-researched and well-documented by Ed Rubenstein of ESR Economic Research Consultants.

Also, when people lack income, this is reflected in government budgets because the tax base is reduced, and this is already putting enormous strain on public finance all around the country. Then CEOs will not have a military to protect factories from expropriation, nor will they have a legal system to protect their assets. Furthermore, when people don't buy things except the basics (which is all most immigrants can afford), then businesses lose more profits, and eventually go bankrupt. This is not some fantasy...it happened in the 1930s. Now GM and Ford are already on credit watch. Many tech firms are bleeding red ink every day and can't go on like that forever (this does not stop them from paying their CEOs large performance bonuses). The 1990s had an uncannny resemblance to the roaring 20s.

Instead, the economy hums along via foreigners financing our borrowing, and massive liquidity from the Fed, which keeps asset values inflated enough to allow people to draw from equity, rather than income.

The end game for this Ponzi scheme, which has already devastated millions of middle class and poor Americans, is the collapse of everything, including the upper class. Deflation. If we had a normal, healthy system, past recessions would have cleaned out imbalances and American companies would value the skill and creativity of their native-born workers, rather than view them as line item costs. Instead, Baby Boomer culture has dictated that the ruling elite feel no pain, hence no cleansing of imbalances. It's the drug party that started in the 60s and never stopped, but as in all drug trips, eventually reality hits.

RobM's proposed solution for the backlash that's developing against elite incompetence and greed is "denying services to those who belong to the restriction movement." In other words, hit them even harder. So, those same consumers he wants as customers would be effectively destroyed...they would be unable to even live in this country. All this for exercising their free speech.

I've said before and I'll say it again, there are many brilliant and competent CEOs out there, and they know what I'm talking about. I've talked to some of them. They view incompetent and arrogant corporate managers with disdain, and the smart companies, in the long run, will replace the dumb ones. But in the meantime, we can't let stupid and unsophisticated managers determine our public policy.

Posted by: FCannon on March 24, 2006 11:07 AM

Rob M is the prime example of the pro illegal immigration crowd. Big business GREED and sell-out politicians, that`s what the American people are up against. Politicians want big business money, and votes, and business wants dirt cheap labor. They don`t care if this country turns into a toilet, as long as they profit. This is our time to fight. POWER OF THE PEOPLE!!!

Posted by: INDEPENDENT on March 24, 2006 01:00 PM

Congratulations Georgia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and continued success with this bill.
The states have to protect themselves and take matters into their own hands, because I really think our Congress doesn't understand the meaning of "illegal." Until they do and start listening to citizens and stop "playing games" as stated, then it's up to the rest of us. Kudos to Sen. Rogers, Rep. Powell and others like them.

Posted by: Born American on March 24, 2006 04:34 PM

Rob'em or Rob them... Rob all of them, RobM? Anyway, who you gonna rob?
1. You're robbing americans
2. You're robbing hispanic illegals because you can
3. And your actually robbing yourself but have yet to realize it

Your some form of maggot like many of your ilk these days... I bet your happily enjoying your profits... probably donate to your pols to keep up the great work.

Keeping borders open and unsecured has given us a population filled with drugs and bad drug habits costing americans a fortune.

It has filled our schools, hospitals, and such with illegals costing us (at some estimates) 70 billion a year.

It has lowered good hard working American wages and so called jobs Americans wont do, simply because of greed.

Enough for now. Continue to feed off the sore like a maggot... soon the body will be healthy and demand to cleanse out the wound...

Posted by: Greg on March 26, 2006 04:54 AM

RobM, thanks for posting. I hope you will continue to post and expand on the points you brought up. I know people in the resturaunt business (yes, they hire illegal aliens) and they work long and hard to keep the place afloat. I do not dismiss your points out of hand. My belief is that the reason business' need to hire illegal help under the table is because their direct compitition does. Am I wrong? If this is the reason, then drying up the illegal labor market would hopefully effect business owners across the board. If this happened, my guess is you would find a sympathetic voting public to join you in pressuring elected officials to REDUCE TAXES AND FEES so you could continue to operate WITHOUT the burden on schools, hospitals and social programs that your 'cheaper consumer prices' costs everyone else. Please let me know if I am seeing something wrong. Thanks for any reply.

Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 27, 2006 07:47 AM

"My belief is that the reason business' need to hire illegal help under the table is because their direct compitition does. Am I wrong?"

This is a fallacious argument. I put out yard work for bids, and the company that hired apparently (ok, obviously) illegal employees came in almost identical to the company that did not. The labor cost differential went into the business owner's pocket, not the consumer's. Local restaurants that hire illegals tend to be on the margin of profitability, not because they face stiff competition, but because their prices are far too high and no one wants to pay such high prices. One such restaurant is for sale, but many locals have said they need to offer a lower-priced menu. The owner drives a brand-new Audi R4, having just replaced his BMW M3 Convertible, and he's a millionaire.

Sorry, but I don't have much respect for RobM's arguments.

Posted by: FCannon on March 27, 2006 12:15 PM

FCannon, I take your point. I was hoping to engage RobM in dialogue. I still hope he (or she) will post again. It seems Ralph has abandoned us. I can't find a site where I can argue with 'pro immigrant' people. Any ideas?

Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 27, 2006 03:40 PM

Bill Dexter, that's been the typical pattern. One flame and then they're gone.

Posted by: FCannon on March 27, 2006 05:23 PM
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Supreme Court Hears Deportation Case

"In a case that could determine how the U.S. deals with longtime illegal residents, Supreme Court justices considered Wednesday whether a, deported Mexican man should be allowed to join his family in Utah. Humberto Fernandez-Vargas first came to the U.S. from Mexico in the 1970s and lived steadily in the country since 1982 after being deported several times early on. He married a U.S. citizen, fathered a child and started a trucking company," the AP writes. "But after he applied for legal status in 2001, he was deported under a 1996 law that revoked the right to an appeal before an immigration judge. He was barred from applying for legal residency or even from seeking relief. At issue is whether the law should have applied to Fernandez-Vargas at all because he last entered the U.S. more than a decade before the statute was enacted. Justice Antonin Scalia and Chief Justice John Roberts asked why any illegal immigrant who had been deported would think they had a right to appeal. 'Why wouldn't (the immigrant) think ... 'whatever rules they have for kicking me out would apply?' Scalia asked."

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""In a case that could determine how the U.S. deals with longtime illegal residents, Supreme Court ...looked in the mirror, and emptied their desks and hit the bricks. They took with them the entire executive branch and all of the legislative with the exceptions of T.Tancredo, R.Paul and a few others." ...we can still dream cant we?

Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 23, 2006 12:09 PM

Why wouldn't the rules apply? If there were already laws against illegal entry, then they have to apply!

This country has had immigrant entry laws for a century...it has been the blatent disregard for those laws and the constant kowtowing and bending of the rules that has allowed such a mess!

Why didn't he take advantage of the first amnesty in 1983, or the second amnesty in 1996? Why did he wait until 2001? He doesn't get another chance...sorry...

Posted by: takn on March 23, 2006 12:10 PM

My question is why is this even being considered by the Supreme Court. He was here illegally was was deported several times which means he broke the law not once but several times. Is this the kind of citizen we want who thinks he is above our law? This is one story I hear repeatly on how a mexican is deported only to be back in the USA a month later. If this alone doesn't justify building a fence all along the border nothing does. What's even more of insult is he was allowed to start a business here.

Posted by: Brian on March 23, 2006 12:36 PM

I hope this ruling stands and is applied in other cases.
Why should a deported or illegal person think they have any rights or the right to appeal is exactly correct.
Just because you have an attitude and sense of entitlement, doesn't mean that, in reality, you should get what you want or know what you're talking about.

Posted by: Born A;merican on March 23, 2006 03:54 PM

ILLEGALS THINK THEY HAVE RIGHTS IN THE US? THAT IS WRONG. ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL. WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL ILLEGAL ALIENS DO NOT UNDERSTAND? THEY ALL MUST BE DEPORTED NOW. THEY DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS. PERIOD. I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SITUATION. THE US CONGRESS AND THE WHITE HOUSE DO NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH THE ILLEGAL POPULATION. LET'S GET RID OF PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE US CONGRESS. LET'S ELECT PEOPLE WHO WILL ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS. LET'S GET RID OF THOSE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO HELP ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Posted by: Loreta on March 23, 2006 07:27 PM

Canada's conservative government and the Canadian Border Services Agency has begun to deport illegal workers in Toronto's underground economy. They have less than 2 weeks to pack up and leave. There's an estimated 15,000 illegal Portugese in Toronto working mainly in the construction industry. Portugal's ambassador to Canada, Joao Silveria Carvalho, publicly told people to "stop feeding the myth" in Portugal that the Portugese can come to Canada illegally. What a magnificent man to make such a statement! He's actually asking citizens of Portugal to behave--what a concept! What do Mexican ambassadors do in the US--pass out consulate matricular cards, in which they don't check out of identity of the person, nor do they accept the cards in Mexico. These ambassadors have no sense of personal honor and integrity, nor do they lead by example. Canada offers a 1 year temporary work permit for people with construction skills. They have an annual quota of 500 and it's NEVER BEEN MET! It seems that it is a guestworker program, where the person is going to return to their country at the end of the year--and they cannot find anyone, who will apply. It sounds like there are jobs aplenty, but still, no one will do the legal work process. Maybe DC politicians need to look and learn from Canada's experience, since the majority of time this program was in effect there were no takers. People would still enter Canada illegally and find illegal jobs. The belief that anyone would return to their countries of origin appear to be just about nil, if a guestworker program occurred in the US. For US citizens in the construction industry, if you cannot find work in your field in the US, try Canada for a year. It might make a statement to DC politicians, if US citizens had to exit their own country for a year "just to be good people trying to feed their families." Just make certain you do so legally, should you choose this opportunity for employment, because ultimately it would help the cause of making America for Americans first and foremost.

Posted by: jaded on March 24, 2006 01:38 AM

Illegal means no Standing with Court. Common Sense
would tell them that. It's all an angle to get around the LAW! Bull Hockey roll down Hill!


Pro Patria!

Posted by: Critter on March 24, 2006 01:14 PM

I am full agreement with this bill. I have been saying for years if you are not a citizen, you should not be able to gain any benifits. We law abiding Americans are footing the bill for too many. They all need to go back where they belong and it is not here in our country. Americans need to take care of Americans only!

Posted by: Lee Ann Corrales on March 26, 2006 09:22 AM

I feel his family should return to Mexico where they all can be together. He should not be allowed to appeal and waste another tax dollar on the case.
Go back where you belong and it is not here in America.

Posted by: Lee Ann Corrales on March 26, 2006 09:27 AM
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Sen. Reid Says He'll Filibuster Frist Enforcement Bill

"As the Senate prepares to tackle the most sweeping immigration reforms in years, a top Democrat vowed Wednesday to do everything in his power, including filibuster, to thwart Majority Leader Bill Frist's proposed overhaul. Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said he would 'use every procedural means at my disposal' to prevent Frist from bypassing the Judiciary Committee. Frist, R-Tenn., has made clear the Senate will take up his proposal next week if the 18-member committee fails to complete a broader bill," the AP reports. "'If Leader Frist brings a bill to the floor that does not have the approval of the Judiciary Committee, it will not get out of the Senate,' Reid told reporters at the San Ysidro border crossing, a few steps from Tijuana, Mexico."

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From Plantation USA.

Did you all know that illegal immigration is used to keep blacks down.

More at www.cis.org

Posted by: Some Mexican on March 23, 2006 12:11 PM

Harry Reid believes we need a guestworker plan first to insure we don't cripple business and industry that would lose their workers? They broke the law hiring illegals so I couldn't care less if they lose business! The government needs to advocate investment in the citizenry, training welfare recipients, forcing business and industry to follow wage and employment standards!

I get absolutely sick to my stomach hearing them talk about giving illegals an opportunity at a better life...what happened to my opportunity? Why was my job taken over by illegals and immigrant labor...? It certainly didn't used to be a job no American would do!

Posted by: takn on March 23, 2006 12:16 PM

As the debate in this country heats up over what border enforcement efforts to adopt, I think it is important for Americans to study the immigration enforcement methods of our toughest foreign rivals, such as Japan, in order to get some perspective. The Japanese are way ahead of us in immigration enforcement. Many Americans (especially liberal or “elite” Americans), seem to think that the border security measures advocated by FAIR and its supporters are “extreme” or “radical”. But in comparison to the measures taken by other countries like Japan, they are just basic, common sense measures that must be implemented IMMEDIATELY, as a first start.

I have included some information from the State Department’s travel advisory, on Japan’s immigration enforcement policies, as well as some information about Japan’s Immigration Bureau on its Ministry of Justice website www.moj.go.jp/ENGLISH The website has quite a lot of information about new border security measures implemented over the past couple of years in Japan, in response to the increased threat of terrorism and the increasing number of crimes being committed by illegal aliens.

From the State Department:

--Crimes against U.S. citizens in Japan usually only involve personal disputes, theft or vandalism. The general crime rate in Japan is at levels well below the U.S. national average. Violent crime is rare, but does exist.

--U.S. citizens must carry their U.S. passports or Japanese alien registration cards with them at all times so that, if questioned by local officials, the U.S. citizen can establish proof of identity and citizenship. Under Japanese law, the police may stop any person on the street at any time and demand ID. If a foreigner does not have with him/her either a passport or valid Japanese Alien Registration Card, s/he is subject to arrest. Due to recent crackdowns by the police, such random stops for ID are becoming increasingly more common, especially in areas frequented by foreigners. In accordance with the U.S.-Japan Consular Convention, U.S. consular officers are generally notified within 24 hours of the arrest of a U.S. citizen, if the U.S. citizen requests consular notification.

--"Lost" passports will not disguise an over-stay of one's 90-day entry, as Japanese Immigration records are computerized.

--Japanese work visas are issued outside of Japan for a specific job with a specific employer at a specific place of employment, and are not transferable. It is illegal for U.S. citizens to work in Japan while in tourist or visa-waiver status. Japanese authorities do not allow foreigners to change their immigration status from visa-waiver status to work status while in Japan. Japanese immigration officers may deny entry to travelers who appear to them to have no visible means of support. Please contact the Japanese Embassy or nearest Japanese Consulate in the United States for guidance on what constitutes adequate financial support for a specific period of time. A U.S. citizen who works in Japan without a work visa may be subject to arrest, which can involve several weeks or months of incarceration, followed by conviction and imprisonment or deportation. The deportee must bear the cost of deportation, including legal expenses and airfare.

Due to recent changes in the law, penalties for overstaying one’s visa or working illegally have toughened substantially. Fines can run into thousands of dollars, and in some cases re-entry bans can be as long as ten years. See http://www.moj.go.jp/ENGLISH/IB/ib-78.html for additional information.

From Japan’s Ministry of Justice Immigration Bureau:

--The number of illegal foreign residents in Japan is now estimated at some 240,000. In order to address such a situation, the Ministerial Meeting against Crimes formulated an “Action Plan for the Realization of a Society Resistant to Crime” in December 2003. According to this action plan, the government will aim at reducing the number of illegal foreign residents by half in the next five years to ensure public security. It also indicates that it is necessary to eliminate unreasonable suspicion toward the many foreign nationals who are staying in Japan peacefully and legally.

--In order to halve the number of illegal foreign residents, it is necessary to reinforce detection and other measures, and then increase the number of foreign nationals to be deported from Japan. Therefore ample detention facilities and prompt deportation are indispensable. To this end, development of detention facilities will continue in order to increase the capacity of the detention facilities. In order to ensure prompt and secure deportation, the relevant countries will be firmly requested to facilitate and accelerate the issuance of passports and other documents for deportees' return to their home countries and requests to airlines will also be increased. The district immigration offices at the airports will enhance their function as a deportation base to facilitate deportation.

--Under the system of Alien Registration administered by the Immigration Service, all foreign residents in Japan are required to appear in person and register themselves at the municipal office of the city, ward, town, or village in which they are living. This system is designed to secure fair and equitable control over foreign residents in Japan by clarifying matters pertaining their residence and status.

--Utilizing information for both smooth and strict enforcement of immigration control will be promoted by integrating and analyzing immigration control information in a unified manner and utilizing such information in all possible fields, including landing examinations, status of residence examinations and detection of illegal foreign residents.

--At the same time as exposing illegal foreign residents to reduce their number, detection of dishonest employers and brokers will be promoted aggressively by applying the regulations on the offenses of encouraging illegal employment, in cooperation with the police in order to improve the present environment, which encourages foreign nationals to illegally stay in Japan.--Enhancement of measures to prevent terrorists from entering Japan has become a key challenge. Tougher border measures to forestall terrorist attacks will be promoted based on the “Action Plan for Prevention of Terrorism”

.--Joint detection with the police and other relevant agencies will be constantly implemented to create an environment where foreign nationals attempting to illegally stay in Japan with false purposes for entry into the country have difficulties working illegally for a long period of time. In this way, the realization that illegal stay in Japan has few benefits will be reached.

Posted by: SecBorders on March 23, 2006 12:29 PM

You have to hand it to Sen. Reid: just when his party had a reasonable shot at taking control of the House and an outside shot at taking control of the Senate, he destroyed it by siding with a president of the other party in favor of illegal aliens and in opposition to this country's masses.

The politics of prostitution usually end with disability and death from a STD. Illegal immigration appears to be no different.

Posted by: jack white on March 23, 2006 12:32 PM

More....
This is another reason why the democrats want more immigrant labor; to depress the wages of the poor. The impact is mostly on blacks.

So
Reps=Big Business Hogs; profiteering
Dems=Keep wages low; more votes.

Posted by: Some Mexican on March 23, 2006 12:38 PM

Once again folks, DEMOCRAT = TRAITOR!

Looks like we need to make a donoation to NumbersUSA and fax/phone the #@%$ out of this guy.

If you live in a state that is encumbered by this guy PLEASE remember him at election time.

Posted by: cicerores on March 23, 2006 01:00 PM

We knew this was going to happen. Thats why I didn't just for joy with the House plan. Even if something good happens, Bush will veto it, its all a waste of time. We just don't have any power, its so obvious. Just like CAFTA there was no way to stop these people.

Posted by: Norm on March 23, 2006 04:36 PM

So, the battle is on between Dumb (Frist) and Dumber (Reid).

Somehow, I don't think I'm going to be drinking a toast to the winner.

Posted by: Rick Darby on March 23, 2006 04:45 PM

Few things draw attention to Congress like a filibuster. This would make the public sit up and take notice, and would force Senators to take a visible position on the matter.

Posted by: Craig on March 23, 2006 04:51 PM

In the above posting about Japan, I would like to pose a question; Did you feel your blood pressure go up or feel a rage growing within you over the indignity of those d---d Japanese daring to write laws to protect themselves? No. How could you have? But you know that we are supposed to feel extreme shame for measures that hardly compare. It is also a truth known to all traveling Americans, that if you get in trouble overseas, our State Department will do only very little on your behalf-a phone call to your parents, etc. thats about it. mexico, on the other hand actively uses our courts to advance its interests here, even funding attack-dog lawyers for jailed raza. George Putnam pointed out today on his show that the mexican constitution prohibits foreigners from political activity-and prescribes summary expulsion to any engaging in it. Again-Are we really supposed to be ashamed while we try to defend ourselves from the onslaught of such an obviously criminal nation? Heres a translation of their constitution. Read section titled 'foreigners'. It makes good ammunition when you are talking to people, especially politicos or clergy-give it a look. http://www.ilstu.edu/class/hist263/docs/1917const.html#TitleIChapterIII

Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 23, 2006 05:54 PM

good, I want all those who oppose enforcement on record-looking like stupid traitor Socialist criminals.

Posted by: Smitty on March 23, 2006 07:11 PM

Re: “Few things draw attention to Congress like a filibuster. This would make the public sit up and take notice, and would force Senators to take a visible position on the matter.”

Craig

Very astute Craig. I too look forward to hearing the filibusters. It could be a real “deer in a headlight moment” for our enemies. The more we get them to taking about this, in a non-scripted way, the better the chance that they will put their foot in their mouths.

For example, just today, Sen. Harry Reid said this: “There is still the matter of the 11 million already here that WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF.”

I’m sure what he wanted to say was this: “There is still the matter of the 11 million already here that WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.”

These people are their own worst enemies. If they are willing to self destruct, we should encourage them to do so. Who knows what may fall out of the tree if we shake it hard enough.

Posted by: Gail Roma on March 23, 2006 07:38 PM

OK. I need to vent. Idiots like reid have no idea what they are doing to our children's future. They should be forced to live as an average citizen for a while then they might understand the follie of their actions.

Here is a little taste of our future. I stopped at a convenience store on the way home today to pick up a 6 pack for the NCAA BB tournament tonight. As I pulled up an hispanic guy in his early 20's was parked there and threw out a wad of trash onto the parking lot. There was a trash can 6 ft from his vehicle. I seldom saw this kind of act growing up because we Texans take pride in our lack of litter ("Don't Mess with Texas"). The papers are blowing around everywhere. My young daughters make a comment about the trash. As I get out of my car I look down at the trash and shake my head (I try to teach my chilren correct values). I go in and grab a 6 pack, and he comes up behind me and makes a comment. I could not hear him so I ignored him and went to he register. He sounded drunk or retarded so I could not understand him. I get to the register and he comes up, sets his single beer down on the counter and stands about 3 inches from me, I look at him, and he says "what you gonna do about it nig*er bit*h"? The cashier makes a comment to him to knock it off. I ask him what his problem is. I pay, ask for bag, and he say's he does not want his beer now and follows me. He almost tripped me as I exited the store, so I turned and told the cashier to call the police so he would be arrested when he hits me outside. He scooted out the door quickly and got in his car making comments to me as I got into my car. Thankfully my daughters could not hear him.

The point is he felt "dissed", I guess because I shook my head in disapproval of littering. Rather than feel shamed about his actions like most Americans, he began to threaten me with violence. Now, these are the "good people" that will take care of us baby boom generation when we are old? I think not. I think we will find ourselves living in fear in our old and vulnerable age. I do not believe we can solve our demographic problems through immigration. We are only importing the social problems of other countries. I am still shaking both in fear and anger over this incident. It was totally uncalled for and not something civilized people would do. J, your assessment in past posts are 100% coorect about the culture we are importing. Call me names if you want, but man oh man, I fear for our furture if it is reliant upon the importation of foreign cultures. If smart, all of us will have a backup plan.

Posted by: Weary Citizen on March 23, 2006 08:57 PM

Nevadans, stop voting for this male! He has lost his mind! Filibustering against what the majority wants is certainly the height of insanity.

Posted by: jaded on March 24, 2006 01:20 AM

There is a lot more than illegals entering the country without health screenings, we need to worry about regarding our southern border. Obviously, Harry Reid has lived in DC for so long he has forgotten how close Nevada is to Mexico. Perhaps, he has forgotten how the Mexican authorities killed 300 birds after detecting a low pathogenic bird flu on homesteads in the Southern state of Chiapas last December. The Mexican Agriculture Ministry is now denying rumors of a case of H5N1 bird flu near the US border of a duck near Nogales. Also, the latest police chief of Nuevo Laredo, 38 year old Omar Pimentel, just quit because he was "struggling to find qualified replacements" to create a professional police force. It does appear there are jobs to be had in Mexico, but Mexicans are not willing to do them. This is bad news for Laredo, Texas, which is directly across from Nuevo Laredo, but its just another American city filled with US citizens, that Harry Reid cares nothing about. It's the Open Borders Political agenda that's important to him--and the hell with what the majority of US citizens want. Go back to Nevada, Harry, and stay out of our national politics. We need people in DC, who understand it is US citzens they work for--not foreign interests that supercede our own.

Posted by: jaded on March 24, 2006 01:51 AM

The crooked senator himself... sickening as all the rest of them.

Posted by: Greg on March 24, 2006 02:54 AM

Another RAT/TRAITOR to our List,Dimwits will out #
Repubs on list PDQ!

Pro Patria!!!

Posted by: Critter on March 24, 2006 09:54 AM

Having lived in Mexico, I think I have a clearer view (humbly said) than many about what has taken place. As I have said before, the Mexican culture that I personally experienced was one of order, hospitality, and cordiality. The fathers (all present) were very authoritarian but the children were open-faced, smiling, and obedient. I found their character to be very high and a strong sense of integrity in them--religious or not. As I have said before, they were some of the finest people I have never known.

What we are seeing now are those children who have been negatively impacted by the absence first of their fathers and then, as the fathers often deserted them and made new lives up here, of their mothers as their mothers left them with grandparents, friends, etc. to come up here to either find the father (pretty useless!) or work and send money home. As I have also said before, I did NOT see people starving everywhere. (Of course, everyone seems to want more to eat--to our own detriment!) I did see people living very much like my parents did during the Depression in Texas--with little but with honesty and family love and unity. In my mind, there was not enough deprivation to justify leaving the children or to justify entering our country illegally. Now, children desperately want to be with their parents. When their parents (either or both) leave them for any reason, regardless of how good it is, the children experience abandonment and then great anger. The behavior of some of these illegals and children of illegals entering the school systems here at puberty and afterwards show this anger by what one teacher (who is herself Hispanic) called "thuggy". They all have their "game faces" on. They are quick to feel affront (showing intense anger inside) and quick to fight over minor issues. Mere words are reason for assault, etc. If one were to enter schools where they have begun to have a significant presence, you would be able to see what I am speaking about and what the schools must contend with. Bear in mind that teachers and schools must now try not only to mend the wounds they had no part in causing, but that these are wounds that MEXICO and CENTRAL AMERICA should be tending. Tending these wounds draws attention/funds away from American children--of all ethnicities.

I recently heard of a situation in which a Mexican-American girl (quite pretty--and I mention this for a reason) was having to hide out in a class during lunch and was fearful during class changes in the halls because a group of illegals who had recently swelled in number in this school (due to hot construction in the area--which they follow) were threatening her because she was "not Mexican enough" (really--because she dressed well, did well, and was pretty). Of course, these types of things happen in every school every day (and I hate it!) but in this case, the bullies are ILLEGAL and do not have a right to be here (in my book) in the first place!
It is my concern that this anger they feel at first from being abandoned, then brought into a foreign culture and placed in schools where it is immediately obvious they are far behind and in need of special help, and then realizing their illegality and their parents' acceptance of law-breaking by continuing to be here will culminate in some major upheavals soon.

Our own culture is far less moral and virtuous than it was 20 years ago and we have ample education, opportunity, and church teaching. You can imagine what is taking place in other countries--and Mexico is certainly one of them. Are there some decent people among those who came illegally? Well, yes, as decent as you can be while telling mistruths daily, using false documents, and displacing American workers, etc. Some of them are, indeed, nice--or very nice--people. If you were to go into the Mexican countryside and visit with those who are experiencing the same Mexico yet who have made a conscious decision NOT to break the law, you would find some of the finest people in the world.

As I have said before, the first illegals were, for the most part, very good people with a strong desire to hide out and work hard. Now, the predators who feast on any group have had to follow their "herd of potential victims" up here. We are now seeing more of the lazier, criminal element finally following everyone else here and why not? The villages they pilfered off are--well--HERE! I am very sorry, Weary Citizen, that you have had this experience. There may be others to come, I am afraid.

Posted by: J on March 24, 2006 10:29 AM

You almost have to grin wryly at the sliminess of this guy as his forked tongue flicks in and out while he tells his half-truths. More of us would recognize him for what he is if he were wrapped around a tree in the center of a garden when he spoke!

My powers of discernment (ha!) tell me that this gentleman is NEVER to be trusted and that a study of his DNA would show that he is a descendant of someone prominent in the Gestapo. Again, never to be trusted.

Posted by: J on March 24, 2006 11:14 AM

10-4 a Reid Filibuster would be great for Public to once and for all to see who the Traitors are in the Senate. And there are many! Senate besides President most out of step with Voters. Let the GAMES BEGIN!

Pro Patria!
PS US Senate reminds me of Roman Senate @ thier Decline,hope I'm wrong!

Posted by: Critter on March 24, 2006 01:21 PM

J, thank you for the insights into Mexico. This helps validate what I've been saying about the hope of upllifting Mexico, rather than driving down the whole hemisphere. I've made this assertion not from living in Mexico, but from life experience. I've met Mexicans, also, who were fine people. I also have a client who imports products from Mexico, and the quality is excellent. A Mexican artist designed his logo and packaging, and it's some of the best I've ever seen. I've lived in other countries, including China, and I know that when you peel back the layers, people are remarkably the same all over the world. Most people are good and honest and don't want a mad world of anarchy at all.

Posted by: FCannon on March 24, 2006 04:03 PM

Thanks J for your empathy. I too know many good hispanics. My best friend since I was 13 is hispanic. But in my estimation, the problems arise not from the immigrants themselves, rather it is their children that have been taught to feel "entitled". It is the 2nd and 3rd generations that will be the problem. Not to mention the sheer numbers coming these days. It is just too many in too short of a time to assimilate. As you state these new arivals end up frustrated and emboldened through hispanic communities that find little need to learn the language or assimilate. It is creating a balkan state. But I will not tolerate the kind of actions I witnessed yesterday. I do not want my children having to look over their shoulder out of fear. Look at Mexico, how many affluent people there need to buy insurance against extortion and kidnapping. That is exactly where we will be if we do not stop the insanity and grow a backbone. We must end the "invasion" from hispanic countries before it is too late. But I am afraid we will not take the appropriate actions (our pols only care about the what is in it for them) until we Americans have been displaced. Sad but true. I am planning, much like Shelby, to dessert the US if real immigration reforms are not enacted. I am fortunate, I have an excellent alternative.

Posted by: Weary Citizen on March 24, 2006 09:08 PM
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Hillary Clinton: House Republicans Would Make "Jesus Himself" A Criminal

"Invoking Biblical themes, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton joined immigration advocates Wednesday to vow and block legislation seeking to criminalize undocumented immigrants. Clinton, a potential 2008 presidential candidate and relative latecomer to the immigration debate, made her remarks as the Senate prepares to take up the matter next week," according to the AP. "Surrounded by a multicultural coalition of New York immigration advocates, Clinton blasted the House bill as 'mean-spirited' and said it flew in the face of Republicans' stated support for faith and values. 'It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scriptures,' Clinton said, 'because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself.'"

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Hey Hilary and Bill never had to obey the law so why should the 20 million illegal aliens in our country.

Nothing scares me more than Hilary getting into the White House. I would sell my soul to the devil to stop that from happening. She would set this country on a course of destruction that could not be stopped.

Amazing when she is a closest lesbian in a pretend marriage with someone who cheats on her all the time can sit there and talk about family values with a straight face.

What's even more outrageous is that she equats Jesus with illegal aliens...how did she come up with that connection??

I figure the most I can hope for that every single person in office that supports illegal immigration loses their office when they come up for election.

Posted by: Brian on March 23, 2006 11:23 AM

Oh, please, Hillary! Get a grip.
The only people being penalized here are Americans. Shafted left and right.
Democrats like Hillary would bring the whole world to our doorstep if they could. They probably think the next step is having the world hold hands and dance around trees together.
God! Why is it so hard to get intelligent, reasonable, fair people into office?

Posted by: Born American on March 23, 2006 11:33 AM

Someone needs to tell Sen. Clinton that the world has changed dramatically since 1992. Communications have exploded, and you can't declare your support for border security and then run to La Raza and denounce law enforcement without being called on it. You cannot claim to be for stricter enforcement and then claim it would criminalize Jesus Christ, which in fact may be the most insane remarks made by any national politician in recent months. You cannot denounce the Dubai World Ports deal as a national security breach and then go all wobbly on border control and terrorism.

In other words, Senator, "triangulation" doesn't work on illegal immigration and the related issue of terrorism, and you can't lie and deceive on these issues anymore. I think, when you don't even get your party's nomination, you should put a call into Dick Morris and tell him his trade is dead.

Posted by: jack white on March 23, 2006 11:35 AM

These comments are way out in the loony left field...evidence of a political tin ear, considering her aspirations for national office. This is the politics of New York City: the majority that holds the political power also defines America as a nation of immigrants, even though most Americans are not immigrants...disconnected from the America on the other side of the Hudson...a separate city-state, really. While New Yorkers see themselves as enlightened beings, they also have the meanest drug laws in the country (the Rockefeller-era mandatory sentences), the death penalty, at will employment that allows employers to fire people at any time (even when they are owed large bonuses, 401k matching and other compensation) with few recourses, a bare-knuckled and cutthroat business culture...etc. Not a shining example for the future of America, at all, I'm afraid, and this attitude is certainly unlikely to win national elections...at least until minority-majorities exist across the country.

Posted by: FCannon on March 23, 2006 11:45 AM

The fact that Hillary is stumping for illegals by trying to invoke religious edicts is sickening! She has no shame!

Posted by: takn on March 23, 2006 12:18 PM

Strange that Ms. Clinton would invoke the name of Jesus, an orthodox Jew, to make the argument for illegal aliens... if I remember correctly, the Jewish people were very unreceptive to all the illegal aliens (Philistines,...) who tried to invade their country.

Posted by: Brian B. Mickelwait on March 23, 2006 01:22 PM

It's terrifying to think that this screeching schrew could possibly become president.

I wonder if she would be invoking the parable of the Good Samaritan and even the Lord Himself into the criminal acts of 20M illegal Mexicans living here if Palestine or Iran was on our southern border instead of Mexico. (Same goes for Cardinal Mahoney & Co.)

Maybe she should just join the Peace Corp and travel around the world administering to the needs of the poor and downtrodden. It would be a much nobler act than that of trying to destroy this country.

She is beyond sickening!

Posted by: MEXIPHOBIC on March 23, 2006 01:24 PM

Yes. You caught us. Jesus himself, in his second comming, will be deported. That's the whole point of the House plan. That way, we can continue to be mean spirited. We tried to fool you but you're too smart for us. Don't worry, though. Mohammad could still get in under the diversity lottery.

Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 23, 2006 02:20 PM

I strongly disagree with the whole notion that God would be for mass Third World immigration into the US, both legal and illegal. Mass Third World immigration is transforming the US, along with a lot of other factors such as trade policy, into a nation that more resembles a Latin country, such as Brazil or Argentina, than the great country it once was.

While I strongly support an immediate, permanent moratorium on most legal immigration and cracking down strongly on illegal immigration, this does not mean I am indifferent to the plight of the 3 billion people on planet Earth that live in dire poverty. In fact, I feel it is the responsibility of wealthy nations and citizens to do all they can to assist the people in poor countries to improve their lot in life. This is why I contribute to charities and organizations that are actually working on the ground in these countries to improve the situation, such as raising the status and educational level of women, etc.

But the many hopelessly impoverished people all over the world will have a much better chance of improving themselves if the US remains a prosperous country that can provide assistance to them, rather than if the US becomes itself a weaker, poorer country resulting from mass immigration, that is incapable of providing much assistance to other countries. The massive numbers of immigrants currently being brought into the US are just a small fraction of the total number of poor people on planet Earth. Almost all citizens in impoverished countries will never have any possibility at all of ever coming to the US.

So the best way for our nation to help the poor of the world is for the US to take measures to ensure it will survive as a prosperous, strong nation. We can recognize the threat to our nation from the mass importation of millions of uneducated people from radically different cultures all over the planet, while still doing our best to improve their situation in their very different countries and cultures, and wishing them all the best as they struggle in terrible circumstances to improve themselves.

Posted by: SecBorders on March 23, 2006 03:24 PM

These 2 faced lying politicians will say anything to try and make there stupid points. Rumor has it, Hillary has told Bill to shut up, she should SHUT UP! How in the world can anyone compare illegal aliens to Jesus. It`s just more rhetoric from the Washington sell-outs. If the American people can`t figure out these politicians are morons, I don`t know what will. This is just another pathetic example of how our politicians justify there illegal alien rhetoric, and turn there backs on us!

Posted by: INDEPENDENT on March 23, 2006 03:51 PM

Hilary is right! Jesus would literally be a criminal under this bill, but I think he'd be arrested first, as he was middle eastern, and therefore a terrorist by most accounts and racial profiling. Either way, he'd be crucified again by the current system and even more by the one that it's been proposed.

Posted by: Human Being on March 23, 2006 04:07 PM

On the lighter side . . .

Three Arkansas surgeons were playing golf together and discussing surgeries they had performed.

One of them said, "I'm the best surgeon in Arkansas. A concert pianist lost 7 fingers in an accident, I reattached them, and 8 months later he performed a private concert for the Queen of England."

One of the others said. "That's nothing. A young man lost an arm and both legs in an accident, I reattached them, and 2 years later he won a gold medal in field events in the Olympics."

The third surgeon said, "You guys are amateurs. Several years ago a lady was high on cocaine and marijuana and she rode a horse head-on into a train traveling 80 miles an hour. All I had left to work with was the horses blond mane and a big a**. Now she's a Senator from New York.......

Posted by: Sick 'n Tired on March 23, 2006 05:18 PM

Good one, BD! as to this 'mean spirited' phrase, I'm wondering, if one of our founding fathers had bandied that phrase around in Philidelphia when they were drafting our constitution, what do you think the likely response would be? Do you think that even if the concept were in their heads in 1775 for example, it would have stopped them from liberating themselves from the foreign oppressor? H no. Mean spirited is using the kindness of your neighbor against him to steal his nation out from under his feet. What translation are you reading hill'ry?

Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 23, 2006 06:00 PM

that whore should know a criminal. she's married to one !

Posted by: pancho villa on March 23, 2006 06:25 PM

Brian, take heart. I do not believe that Hillary will ever get back in the White House. The only thing she has got going for her is name recognition. She is her own worst enemy and she will sink her own ship. She has proved it yet again.

Posted by: Gail Roma on March 23, 2006 07:40 PM

This witch has many faces. She`s the queen of the flip floppers. In 2003 she wanted illegal immigration laws enforced, now illegal aliens are like Jesus. She`s getting pretty close to the other lunatic in congress, Kennedy. Politicians like this are the enemies of America, but they get re-elected because of there states. Every politician should be against illegal immigration, and if there not, they don`t represent the American people. They`re just sell-outs to big business and votes!

Posted by: AMERICAN on March 23, 2006 08:22 PM

Well reasoned, Independent.

There is not one pol(cat) party that I can support anymore. The dems continue their socialist policy push, and the so called conservative republicans have shed their conservative cloak revealing their true selves. Hard to imagine how we will get anything resembling true immigration reform. Either we get nothing but status quo (thousands crossing the border each day) in the best case if the House repubs stand their ground, or we get amensty and millions of permanent guest workers if the senate gets its way. A lost cause. Reference the big lie from Frist. I knew he was nothing but a cheeleader for amnesty from the onset.

For those Texans, there is an independent running for the US Senate seat against hutchinson (bush lackey). His name is Arthur Loux, and he needs 50K signatures to get on the ballot. He supports true immigration reform. Please go to his website and download the petition and gather signatures. I am working it now. He will not win because he does not have the $M's to campaign, but if he can detract votes from hutchinson, it will send a strong message to those RINO's in the senate for the next election cycle. It may only be moral victory (don't piss on our parade Shelby), but it is better than doing nothing.

Posted by: Weary Citizen on March 23, 2006 09:56 PM

IF THIS BILL PASSED IT'S ABOUT TIME TO STRAIT THE MATTER, AND STOP ALL THE ABUSE THAT THESE CRIMINALS ARE DOING TO OUR COUNTRY. YES CRIMINALS SINCE THEY CROSS OUR BORDERS ILLEGALLY THEY ARE HERE ON THEIR OWN MERCY ,FOR THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE. IT'S ABOUT TIME TO PUNISH THOSE WHO HELP THESE CRIMINALS TO ABUSE OUR SYSTEM, LIKE RECEIVING WELFARE,MEDICAL,FREE LUNCH TO THEIR CHILDREN ,OVER CROWDING OUR SCHOOLS , KILLING AMERICAN CITIZEN , DESTROYING OUR CITIES,RECEIVING HOME,BUSINESS LOANS. DESTROYING OUR MIDDLE CLASS BY TAKING JOBS THAT BELONG TO OUR CITIZENS. THESE ABETTORS OF CRIMES SHOULD BE PUNISH FOR ABETTING THESE CRIMINALS TO CONTINUE TO BE HERE, WHEN THEY SUPPOSED TO BE IN THEIR COUNTRY. YES A SUPPORT THIS BILL TO PUNISH ALL THOSE CRIMINAL AND TRAITORS TO THE SECURITY OF OUR NATIONS, AND NO MORE AMNESTY OR WORK PERMIT TO THESE LAWS BREAKERS. BY THE WAY THIS SATURDAY THESE LAW BREAKERS ARE GOING TO BREAK ANOTHER LAW THE NUISANCE LAW WHEN THEY MARCH THAT DAY , I WONDER WERE IS ICE GOING TO BE WITH THEIR BUSES IN LOS ANGELES TO DEPORT THESE CRIMINALS AT THE SPOT . THE DAY IS 3/25/06 SATURDAY AT 8:00 AT BROADWAY /OLYMPIC ,THESE DATE IS JUST IN CASE OUR SECURITY FORCES DECIDED TO PRESENT THEM SELF THERE TO PROTECT OUR CITY.

Posted by: AMERICAN CITIZEN FIRST on March 23, 2006 11:10 PM

I think it is very funny that Hillary did not invoke any comments about Jesus, when the Clinton/Gore administration became the one with the most indictments and convictions, thus becoming the most corrupt administration since the beginning of this country. I don't even think I heard her state their innocence without blaming the other political side. Is this truly the best Democrats can do? Illegals really should have a sense they are going to be asked to leave. It's the end of the road for them. The majority of US citizens and those, who are in this country legally, want a dramatic change in what in US immigration policies. Grab a clue and grab your belongings, illegals, and go home. Work to find solutions to the problems in your own country. If you want to invoke Jesus and God statements, God put you in your country of origin, so you would make changes in it in a positive direction. God did not put you on earth to break man's laws, particularly those of another nation. while simultanously stating your impact on that nation is your "right." God created the 10 Commandments, and if you are here illegally, I believe you are breaking quite a few of them. I just have to ask one thing of you--take Hillary with you when you go. As Bill himself would say, "Take my wife! Please!"

Posted by: jaded on March 24, 2006 01:18 AM

Can you say 2 Faced Phoney? Runs with Rats must be ONE!

Pro Patria!!

Posted by: Critter on March 24, 2006 09:56 AM

can someone please make the clintons disapear!!!!!

Posted by: sil on March 24, 2006 10:28 AM

If the anti-immigration forces only bring to the table proposals (e.g. House bill) which do not realistically deal with the existing 20 million illegals, then we will be attacked from both sides of the political sprectrum (left & right).

We are smaller as a caucus, are being squeezed, and even the status quo is not our friend.

Thus we need my proposal:

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Win-Win%20Immigration%20Solution.html

Please call up Trancredo immediately and make him read my proposal, and explain to him that we need to take the leadership role on how to deal with the existing illegals, else popular opinion can be turned against us!!!

Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 24, 2006 12:21 PM

Whats so bad about Hillary? Well if she will get into the White House i will finally get my papers - either marriage with a guy or amnesty bill, i am sure she will pass it. Such a stupid country i live in for 5 years already: EU legalized gay marriages 2-3 years ago and let Eastern Europeans work there with no visaz, now your Texas Macho is trying to copy it here (i am not saying how stupid it looks they way he shows it on TV). Well good luck and good bye ;)

Posted by: LEXNJ on March 25, 2006 09:46 AM

Hilary you ass, all any intelligent person has to do is look around and see the devastation the illegal aliens are causing lost of jobs to citizens over crowed and violence in our schools, hospitals closing and prisons over crowed, hopefully next election you and all the others who want to distroy our cuntry will be booted out of office.

Posted by: ken williams on March 26, 2006 08:40 PM

I am a a legal immigrant who came to US in 1995 and became a citizen in yes.. 2006. I have no complaints and am happy to be a legal citizen, the right way (infact, I went back to my country before my visa expired, so I could come and stay in USA, the right way). Only complaint I have is that with the new bill, I feel like a fool to have languished for citizenship, while criminals will get to the same previliged status through the back door, thanks to the 'sell-out' politicians.

Posted by: Bhishma on March 28, 2006 01:19 AM

Heres the deal. Most of these people are racist. You don't think about the criminals that are American CITIZENS. Yeah. Just go ahead and lay the blame on the immigrants would you. And no, not all of them are uneducated. My mom came into this country having started college in her country. And by the way, we're taking your jobs? Oh, I'm sorry we've denied you the privileges of working long hours in restaurants, digging holes in the streets and doing construction work. Is that the work we've taken from the middle class? Because yes, if you think about it, many Hispanic kids in our cities can say, "My dad built your house." And of course, just ignore the fact that immigrants import a lot into our economy. Does anyone think about the families that could get torn apart? What would you do if your children were hungry, if your mother was dying of a disease, if there was no roof over your head? Would you wait ten years to get your residence? I don't think so. And the fact that we're trying to make it illegal to help these people, then yes, I would have to agree with Hillary Clinton. If being humane and having morals makes us criminals, a lot of us good people and Jesus, would be criminals. Criminals in the eyes of selfish men, but not in the eys of God.
The last comment I have is the inscription that goes with the Statue of Liberty:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door
-I think we've forgotten this.

Posted by: Someone who knows what really matters on April 1, 2006 07:46 PM
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