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October 19, 2005
Illegal Aliens Making $300 A Day In La Nueva Orleans The New Orleans Times Picayune has more coverage today about the influx of illegal alien laborers working on reconstruction Well, is anyone really surprised by this move? Where are our federal government immigration agencies to arrest those who are working illegally and in violation of federal RICO statutes? Where are local police, who would be able to repond to illegals being in the country illegally? What is the mayor of New Orleans doing, besides just wondering and worrying? Where are the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton, who told Fox they would assist Mexican citizens find jobs? Perhaps, they are operating an illegal labor center in exchange for Hispanic votes for the candidate of their choice. New Orleans's party attitude is being used against them, and everyone just politely sits back and lets it happen? Time for New Orleans to grow up and take back their city. Time for Mexico to get ready to accept their citizens back. What a perfect situation for another Operation Wetback--just round them up and head them south--very cost effective and humanitarian--for US citizens, that is. What a concept! A stronger America for Americans! Posted by: jaded on October 19, 2005 02:37 PMI thought the only jobs illegals filled were those no American wanted to do. With poverty being what it is in New Orleans then you add in all the people who lost everything down there during the hurricane it is so wrong on so many levels that these jobs are going to illegal aliens. I don't get why the citizens as well as the majors office aren't raising three kinds of hell about this. Posted by: Brian on October 19, 2005 03:05 PMJust wait. This is not the half of it (this was easily predicted). You watch Bush go down there and shake hands and thank the illegals while pushing his amnesty guest worker plan. He will show the "hard work" and "dedication" of these illegal immigrants "doing jobs Americans won't do" in rebuilding an American city (which was allowed by his own edicts to suspend Davis-Bacon Act). Bush's intent is to put a face to the problem (play on emotions), then show the hard work, and shamelessly exploit the situation to gain support for his immigration (non)reform package. Think about it, he has made every effort to ensure the jobs in New Orleans are given by illegal aliens (outside of driving the illegals there personally), not US citizens. Posted by: Weary Citizen on October 19, 2005 03:53 PMWeary, I couldn't agree with you more! That's my greatest fear, that he will embrace this as successful and promise these people an easy pathway to citizenship...but just as the one illegal was quoted as saying, he plans on staying about a month...that's the way the illegals are, very transitory and without a paper trail to track them, they disappear into society and continue to perpetuate the underground economy. Posted by: takn on October 19, 2005 05:07 PMWith Approximately 15 Milliion Amerricans unemployed in this country, where is the Federal Goverment who's job it is to create and report "new jobs" to U,S. Citizens? What American would not want to earn nearly $300.00 per day? what about the unemployed citizens of New Orleans, they are certainly American Citizens also. Where is George Bush when the unemployed U.S. Citizens need a hand up. If just saw him on the evening news stating that he had signed a bill that would provide funds for Border Security. George Bush is 5 Years to late on behalf of U.S. citizens. When it comes to Illegal Immigration , enforcing our federal Immigration laws and preserving the American jobs lost to Illegal Immigration - George Bush has been a complete failure. As Presidemt of the United States of America, he lost my respect because he did not represent "the will of the majority" when it comes to our Federal Immigrattion laws. Posted by: Las vegas resident on October 19, 2005 11:57 PMIf you or someone you know knows of an employer who hires "alleged" illegal immigrants expose them on www.wehirealiens.com If nothing else its a good read. Posted by: mdavies on October 20, 2005 01:25 AMI would like to know how these illegals are being paid by way of federal money on a federal contract. It should be placed in the contract that only legal laborers will be used or forefeit all pay for any work done. This should apply to contractors and sub-contractors. It is ridiculous that our tax money is going to these illegals via federal contracts. Posted by: Sick n' Tired on October 20, 2005 10:19 AM"With Approximately 15 Milliion Amerricans [sic]unemployed in this country, where is the Federal Goverment who's job it is to create and report "new jobs" to U,S. [sic] Citizens?" "What American would not want to earn nearly $300.00 per day?" " what about the unemployed citizens of New Orleans, they are certainly American Citizens also." Ralph, I think the major points to be made here are that OUR TAX DOLLARS should not be going to ILLEGAL ALIENS and those jobs should only be offered to AMERICAN CITIZENS only. The only point you are correct about it how many people are unemployed in this country but one thing you leave out is the fact that millions of AMERICANS can't find full time work with benefits because of the ILLEGAL ALIEN labor going on in this country. So while they may not be "unemployed" they are living at or just above the poverty level because ILLEGAL ALIENS hold wages down which hurts not only AMERICAN citizens but our tax base as well. ILLEGAL ALIENS are a major factor in our governments deficit as most don't pay into the tax system and by holding wages down means less money goes into the tax coffers...then you add on top of that all the social services we have to pay for ILLEGAL ALIENS (schools, hospitals, welfare, prisons etc). It's estimated that ILLEGAL ALIENS pay around $20 billion in taxes using fake social security cards but they cost us $70 billion in social cost. So how does that help us exactly. Big business / corperations are the only people who want ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country because it allows them to post "record" profits because their labor cost are down not that they are actually producing more. This PC talk about how they take jobs americans don't want is total BS. Who do you think served my burgers 10 years ago..it was high school, college students...the real issue is that Americans won't take the jobs at what businesses are willing to pay illegal aliens which is below the poverty level which in turn lets them post higher profits but who does that benefit but the CEOs of companies. Why do you think extended ILLEGAL ALIEN familes of 10 to 30 family members live together. Posted by: Brian on October 20, 2005 01:53 PMThis issue needs to be pushed to the forefront. The vast majority of Americans will not support this scheme, and if it gets wider attention it could force political leaders to take a stand. Contact your local media outlet and ask them why they haven't covered this. If they've covered it in an illegal alien-supporting way, strongly criticize them. Ditto with politicians. Posted by: BigMediaBlog on October 20, 2005 02:05 PMIt is quite interesting. Damn the employers for paying little money to illegals, damn illegals for taking a lot of money. Maybe if citizens wouldn't mind taking hazardous jobs at all, illegals wouldn't have them. By the way, how many of you have applied or are even willing to move to New Orleans to do this job? Stop complaining if you are not willing to walk the walk! Related article: “Ralph, I think the major points to be made here are that OUR TAX DOLLARS should not be going to ILLEGAL ALIENS and those jobs should only be offered to AMERICAN CITIZENS only.” “ millions of AMERICANS can't find full time work with benefits because of the ILLEGAL ALIEN labor going on in this country.” “So while they may not be ‘unemployed’ they are living at or just above the poverty level because ILLEGAL ALIENS hold wages down which hurts not only AMERICAN citizens but our tax base as well.” “ILLEGAL ALIENS are a major factor in our governments deficit…” “ as most don't pay into the tax system” “Big business / corperations [sic] are the only people who want ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country “ The bottom line is that New Orleans and other damaged areas are being rebuilt. Jaded, Brian, BigMediaBlog, Born American, Weary Citizen, Takn, Las vegas resident, Mdavies, Sick n' Tired: Have any of you applied for these jobs? I am positive that if you did, you will in fact displace the illegals. Is $300/day not good enough for you? It's $78,000/year. By the way, is this pushing down American wages? Posted by: Human Being on October 20, 2005 04:48 PMHuman being, I live nowhere near the south, but if I did, yes, I would apply! Unfortunately, I have 2 children to care for, a home that I own and a husband who wouldn't want me working out of state for an extended period of time...I have done a great many jobs in my day that were disgusting and back breaking...I am not above any kind of work that pays an honest dollar and I would gladly do it before expecting an entitlement like welfare. Look at it realistically, how many thousands of NO residents were displaced and COULD be put to work on the rebuilding? We are paying for cruise ships to sit in the harbor, trailers for residents to utilize, but you want to bitch at those of us who are fighting for the people who should be first in line for those jobs? All NO did was displace their poor and spread the welfare burden to other states...now the greedy can take over and they are hoping that residents won't want to return, then they will seize their properties and rebuild NO into the mecca they want! Look at how Ray Nagin is already calling for hotels to develop into casinos? He doesn't seem real worried about how he gets from point A to point B, just that it be done as quickly as possible. Some people can be so sanctimonious as to believe they can cast the first stone! How bout you, isn't $78,000 a year good enough for you? Well, it's unfair to hand jobs to people who have broken our laws to come here and it's reprehensible for our government to stand aside and embrace it with open arms... THOSE WHO FAIL TO STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ARE EITHER EXPLOITING IT OR PROFITING FROM IT!!! Dear Takn, Excuses always come in handy when it comes to walk the walk. Illegals not only came from "out of state" but from another country... and guess what... many had to leave their families behind for an "extended period of time". The real question is: How much are we willing to do to displace illegals? Words usually don't do the trick, neither do excuses! Posted by: Human Being on October 20, 2005 05:56 PMOK, Human Being, you want to play huh? Although I doubt you will have anything more intelligent to add and have the reasoning capacity of Ralph, here is what I have to say. First, you suppoort law breakers? You support anarchy? These people are ILLEGAL. Look it up in the dictionary in case your english vocabulary of 50 words doesn't contain the word illegal. They are uninvited parasties in MY country. Just like the terrorists from 9/11. The US, by the way, still provides me the freedom of speech to critize your liberal PC bias BS. Second, those jobs are UNSKILLED labor. Do you understand unskilled? In other words, they do not have a college education or a special skill that can't be learned in a week. Smart *ss!!!! I happen to have a Masters degree and make a nice living. What do you have? So under your unbeleiveably RIDICULOUS proposal, I would quit my job for a temp job that pays the same with no benefits to prove a point? I am just being obtuse here with the last statement, following Ralph's lead of not connecting obvious dots. But I have family members and friends that are unskilled labor and they are impacted by illegal labor. Not in N.O per se, but in the big picture (something you have never grasped obviously), all unskilled citizens are hurt by worseing working conditions and wages. That IS a FACT if you would spend 10 mintues looking objectively at the evidence. Third, are you really that ignorant? It is a well documented fact that wages increase dramatically during reconstruction in areas of devastation. Before you go spouting off with your liberal drivel, you might want to actually think through your logic. So this guy made $300 in a day. Wow, great. But how many hours did this ILLEGAL Alien work? If he worked 16 hours (not all that uncommon for workers in temp jobs like this), that works out to be just under $16/hr, if OT is paid as prescribied under law (oh yea, I forgot, you don't care about US law). Not such a great pay huh, given that illegal construction workers as day labors make $15/hr. Neither of us have the details so we can argue the assumptions. Without illegals there to drive down prices, the wage would be higher than that. And guess what happens to the wage delta? It goes right into the company's pocket, not back to the taxpayer paying for all this. Fourth, we the taxpayers and our gov't are being stolen blind by these scum illegals. For each day this trespasser works, we lose a payroll tax of 12% (6% from employee and employer each). So the employer is saving money thorugh no payroll tax by hiring an illegal alien who has no right to be here. That is a big draw for them to hire illegals over citzens. Not to mention any other benfits employers don't have to pay by breaking our laws of hiring illegals, and the income taxes illeglas don't have to pay like citizens do. Fifth, working conditions do not have to maintained to OSHA standards when illegals work. Again, the employers can take short cuts and save money. Illegals are afraid to report them (as they should be). Then if they get hurt, well here comes US taxpayers to the rescue to pick up the damn bill for them. Oh yea, we tapxpayers subsidze these *ssholes. Sixth, as reported in various media, the company's set up trailers wihtout running water and electricity to accomodate workers. If employers could not hire illegals they would be forced set up suitable housing for citizen workers. In other words, the employers don't exactly go out of there way to draw citizens to the jobs. And guess what, we the taxpayers get the privalege of paying to support these law breaking, non tax paying, scumbags to come in and drive down wages for the poorest and least able to defend themselves American citizens. Now that is fair isn't it? Human Being, I can only assume you are a young idealist that has yet to gain the maturity required to think through complex social and national issues. You will grow out of it. Trust me. Or maybe you are a utpopian believe. Naive and will never happen. I suspect you yourself are illegal. If so, your days are numbered, buddy. And BTW, smart *sses like you, make me even less tolerant of illegals. You are fanning the flames with your cutsey little comments. If you are smart, you would leave before the huge backlash comes from the US citizens sick of the garbage coming across our borders. Now that is a fact!!! Posted by: Weary Citizen on October 20, 2005 06:10 PMHuman being... I don't have to go to NO, but I know a great many people from there who should have the opportunity to go back and reclaim what is theirs! Posted by: takn on October 20, 2005 08:13 PMRalph. You quote “studies” on wage depreciateion. What studies? Chapter and verse Ralph. Posted by: Gail Roma on October 20, 2005 11:28 PMHuman Being, American Citizens have had to subsidize Illegal Immigration for many years. You have a short memory and have naively isolated your short term response. Our Social Institutions have not deteriorated because of the great benefits provided by Illegal Aliens. We have overcrowded classrooms, artificially depressed wages, and approximately 1/3 of our federal prison population is comprised of Illegal Aliens. We will pay for the Medical costs, over-crowded schools, anchor babies and related medical, as well as the related encarceration expenses. Your approach and your scope and personal point of view was very limited and does not benefit U.S. Citizens. The Businesses that are wholesaling the middle class in our Country and the Illegal Aliens who send their money south and let U.S Citizens pay the taxes and provide them with all the Free Social Services that they have learned to consume are the true Benefactors. You are short on facts and a comprehensive outlook on the National Crisis of OUT-OF-CONTROL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN OUR COUNTRY. Posted by: Las vegas resident on October 21, 2005 01:25 AMDear Takn, As I said, excuses don't count. I also have a Master's degree from an American university. And if you really want to stop being naive and ignorant read the testimony to the Senate of Douglas Massey, Ph.D from Princeton (a professor) who IS AMERICAN and I must say, very skilled. http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=17760 You state that illegals should just come here leaglly... that would be great if the government gave them that option. The current wait time for most work visas goes from 7 to 14 years! If you live in a country with more than 25% unemployment and your kids were starving, will you ask them to wait 7 to 14 years to be fed? All in all, immigration is the ultimate LEGAL way of discrimination and slavery in this country, all for something that we can't control which is where we are born. First African Americans were the "evils", then they got a voice and fought back. Then, gays, who are still fighting back; so the only ones left to pin any problems to are illegals who will never have a voice. I am sure there is a heaven and in the end people like you won't be able to get the green card that will count the most! Posted by: Human Being on October 21, 2005 02:57 AM"Ralph. You quote 'studies' on wage depreciateion. What studies?" www.phil.frb.org/econ/conf/immigration/card.pdf Posted by: Ralph on October 21, 2005 10:57 AMFrom Plantation USA. Your point is well taken; that we are trying to blame all the troubles on the weakest among us. We have some racists and dim-witted and profiteers. Who like to attack and exploited people. I agree that Illegal Immigration creates slavery-like conditions, this is what drives illegal immigration. The profiteers of illegal immigration, most likely would own slaves-if it was legal. But, Illegal immigration is wrong and we need to resolve-it. Also, not everyone has the right to immigrate to the USA. We need to have the rule-of-law. The problems in your country do not give you the right to violate USA law. Why don’t you fix-them, running away just weakens your country more. Your Statement below is just crazy. Your statement is also hateful. "I am sure there is a heaven and in the end Please show some gratitude to this country for the opportunity it has given you. Posted by: Spme Mexican on October 21, 2005 11:55 AMHuman Being, I am glad to see you posting here again. We get so little dissent. You mention the unemployment and hunger in some countries as the reason for coming here, and as the reason we should let them. If our population doubles in the next 60 or 80 years, what will conditions be like here? I am not asking rhetorically. I would agree with you and want to let all poor people into this country if that would be the end of poverty. But, really, with birth rates at many times ours, what is the end game of a massive influx? How WILL it end if we don't end it by policy? It seems to me the only other way it can end is if conditions here are so bad that it's not worth coming. Your thoughts, Human Being? Posted by: Bill Dexter on October 21, 2005 12:02 PMDear Takn, U.S. foreign policy is largely to blame for unemployment, hunger and war in other countries. We have it great here at the expense of the rest of the world. We want cheap goods, and they only come with cheap labor, either here or outside of the country. Will you be willing to pay $10 a pound for tomatoes? Again, if you'd like to understand immigration and you are so "educated" do read the testimony of Douglas Massey, Ph.D. BTW. You didn't respond if you'd wait 7-14 years to feed your kids? Posted by: Human Being on October 21, 2005 12:59 PMHuman Being, no I would not wait 7-14 years to feed my kids. Nor does anyone else. I would wait 7-14 years for a once in a lifetime chance for a better life, especially if no one owed it to me. I have agreed with you that IF letting everyone come here would end such suffering, I would be in favor of it. Yes, it improves the life of the border jumper for today, but my question to you is about the long term sustainability of this thing. How does our economy work with 2 or 3 times the people? Could you address that? I really want to know what other people think about this. I commend your humanitarian intentions, but I keep going back to the old "Give me a fish, I eat for a day, teach me to fish, I eat for a lifetime" way of thinking. If people are to live like us, they must first act like us. Could you give me your thoughts on the population aspect of poverty and living standards? I accept that you blame America for the ills of the world. I am sure we are not blameless. We could talk about that, too, but it helps to know HOW something would work before one considers if it SHOULD be that way. Posted by: Bill Dexter on October 21, 2005 02:34 PMTwo things: 1 - It is proven that immigrants do have less children that they would have had if they'd stayed in their countries. 2 - The population will not double or triple! And even if it did and there were possibilities for immigrants to come in and live here legally, we would have double or triple the CONSUMERS & TAXPAYERS! It is just not in the best interest of corporate America to legalize illegals and stop exploiting them. BTW. Where do you get that the population is doubling and tripling? If you want the REAL facts read: Douglas Massey, referenced above, also supports "North American integration", in other words the U.S. joining with Mexico and Canada in an EU-style superstate. Would a patriotic American support such a plan? And, as reported by FAIR, Massey and Dan Griswold from CATO both testified to this... in the U.S. Senate... before John Cornyn. It was one-sided testimony: the American side appears to have been omitted. Please follow the suggestions in my comment above. The party (or both parties) that end up giving jobs to illegal aliens when they should have gone to hurricane victims is going to lose big. Posted by: BigMediaBlog on October 22, 2005 12:53 AMMcCain Criticizes Enforcement Approach to Illegal Immigration "As the Bush administration began promoting a guest worker program for immigrants, Sens. John McCain and Edward Kennedy It's good to see that there are still people who approach issues with common sense. Posted by: Ralph on October 19, 2005 01:37 PM"My friends, that's not what the lady who holds the lamp beside the golden door is all about." My Arizona traitor, allow me to clarify for you the importance of "the lady who holds the lamp". First, she was a gift from the French and has absolutely nothing to do with immigration LAW. Second, though she is welcoming the tired, hungry, poor, etc., those who've had the joy of viewing her as they search for a better life are searching LEGALLY. They go through a port of entry and are processed through immigration. Third, the only ILLEGAL immigrants who ever see her are those working/living ILLEGALLY in New York. And until you put a replica on the Rio Grande, most never will see her. Finally, illegal immigrants do not care about our ideals. They don't care about our laws. If they did, they would enter LEGALLY!!!! Pull your head out of your a** and start working for the legal citizens you were elected to represent. Grrrrr..... Posted by: prendizi on October 19, 2005 01:48 PMFrom: Plantation USA. Who is this guy representing? This guy is a profiteer of slave-labor, Vote Him Out Of Office! Posted by: Some Mexican on October 19, 2005 01:59 PMPut a sock in it, McCain. So you (McCain) think the lady is holding out her lamp as a flashlight for illegals to dart across our borders? Her inspiring message was meant for those who come LEGALLY. Posted by: J on October 19, 2005 02:25 PMPlease Arizonans--stop voting for John McCain as he has done your state and this country a severe disservice that taxpayers are paying for. I am sorry, but I cannot stand this male and know that, once again, he is taking his tired rhetoric on the road for yet another bid as our national leader. Sorry, but he's worthless and ignorant. The Statue of Liberty was a GIFT FROM FRANCE, for crying out loud! The words on the statue should not be taken for our government policy in the 21st century, when they were put there originally by France in another century! How deluded has this male become, when he is asking the nation to live in the past rather than move forward. Citizens should certainly be more important than some imagined "thought" an inanimate object that sits in a body of water and pays no taxes, has. The majority of US citizens want NO MORE AMNESTIES--EVER! How difficult is it for lame-brained politicians to figure out. That McCain has teamed with Ted "I Float Better Than Any Woman I Know" Kennedy should say it all. It's time to retire McCain and Kennedy from DC--send them the way of Tom Daschle and vote in someone who chooses to live in reality--not the fantasy world of the ultra-liberal, PC spouting, delusional Open Borders Lobby. Posted by: jaded on October 19, 2005 02:27 PMThe more I read about McCain and Kennedy, the more I think they are two of the biggest morons on the planet, and maybe in the universe. Considering how the state of AZ feels about illegal aliens these days I don't see McCain getting relected. How him and Ted lasted this long if office is beyond me. Posted by: Brian on October 19, 2005 03:09 PMWhat we all need is to have the governent remove all the things that allow illegals to hide under the radar. No Tax ID numbers, no bank accounts without proper ID, proof that they are here LEGALLY before their kids go to public school at tax payer expence and fines for landlords who house. Then all the illegals would deport themselves. Posted by: Dave Andre on October 19, 2005 03:22 PMMcCain has lost it. I can't belive the repub party does not strip him of the repub title. He is more liberal than many dems in the senate. Time for him to go. It is also time for term limits. These carrer politicians are killing the nation as they pander to every special interest group in the nation while ignoring the will of the people that elected them. All pols need to have no more than 2 terms so that they can them go live under the rules they created. Then maybe a little sanity might creep back in to the process. Posted by: Weary Citizen on October 19, 2005 03:37 PMI watched the Senate Immigration committee questioning Chertoff and Chuoy last nite. MOST of the Senators agree with ENFORCEMENT of the borders. However, two of them, Durban of Illinois and Feingold of Wisconsin are certified enemies of this country. They were raising hell about no path to citizenship in King George II's ''guest worker''/Amnesty proposal. That damn Feingold was raising hell about how ICE called a ''safety'' meeting @ an Airforce base in July and arrested and deported 48 scumbag illegals who showed up for the meeting. Cute ain't it? Both of the Secretary talking heads denied being involved in that and promised it wouldn't happen again. In other words, come on into our MILITARY bases illegal alien hiring contractors; we have all kinds of secrets to share with your workers. Personally I think somebody ought to introduce Durban and Feingold to about 10 illegals who have TERMINAL TB and let them sling spit and foaming slobber all over their $1000 suits. That would be PRICELESS. Then take them to the WHITE HOUSE and let them do the same thing. Posted by: Macman on October 19, 2005 03:48 PMExactly right prendizi. Remember this guy at the next election. I agree with you, Brian. This man makes me ill. But believe it or not, he's leading in a lot of polls of public opinion for the next presidency. And I believe he would be WORSE than Bush (if that's even possible). His loyalties would lie with big business and illegals ONLY (sound like someone we know?). Americans will be doomed if he succeeds in becoming president. Here in AZ he's in bed with more than a few big bucks corporations, including Viacom who owns almost all advertising media in AZ. They refuse to run anything that would shed a less than positive light on McCain. Even the newspaper here is wetting themselves touting what a great person this traitor is. Just makes me S-I-C-K. Posted by: D.T. on October 19, 2005 05:02 PMWe already know that every guestworker who is allowed to sign up for this program will be able to stay by either: having anchor babies who can sponsor them, or by disappearing just like every other illegal who is "requested" to show up for a deportation hearing...
Check it out- he's a member of the Immigration Task Force of the Migration Policy Institute. If you have any doubt as to whether that makes him an extremist, just look at the names of the others that serve on that task force. Posted by: lance_sjogren on October 19, 2005 05:32 PMRalph, plain and simple. You are an idiot. Posted by: bobbyo on October 19, 2005 09:58 PMRalph says: "It's good to see that there are still people who approach issues with common sense." OK Ralph, let's take a look at that common sense. Consider McCain's statement:
McCain himself is so confused he's not even sure why he's against the policies he's against. No wonder he's afraid to debate. Macman: Regarding "MOST of the Senators agree with ENFORCEMENT of the borders." Don't let them fool you. The vast majority of the Senators are open borders wackos. Some are just not quite as blatant about it. Posted by: lance sjogren on October 19, 2005 10:05 PMEveryone asssumed that John McCain was a War Veteran who fough for our Country. He is now fighing against the legal U.S. Citizens of our country who have spoken in pole after pole and have informed politicians that they are tired of the Out- of-control Illegal Immigration in our Country. John McCain is not representing the Majority of U.S. Citizens in our Country on the Major issue of Illegal Immigration. It's time for John McCain to either Represent the Majority on this issue or leave office and find another job. I urge all U.S. Citizens to E-Mail this misguided Politician and let him know we cannot tolerate his misguided political agenda and to stop compromising the will of the Majority of American Citizens in our Country. Posted by: Las vegas resident on October 20, 2005 12:12 AMMcCain panders to La Raza, LULAC, MALDEF and the Ford Foundation. He is more concerned with advocating for the illegal immigrants and their advocates and employers. Of course it is possible to have the illegals go home, enforce our laws against the employers then there wont' be jobs for them here. Don't provide driver's licenses, mortgages, business licenses, welfare to anchor babies, public education, health care and they won't find it so friendly anymore. Posted by: mdavies on October 20, 2005 01:23 AMMcCain and Kennedy think that we the American people are millionaires. To keep illegal aliens here means our taxes increase every year to support illegal aliens and their illegal children. We the American people are not millionaires. We have bills to pay. We can't afford to pay huge taxes to support illegal aliens. All illegal aliens must be deported now. McCain and Kennedy should be sent to another country because they do not take our opinions into account. McCain and Kennedy (and Congressmen/congresswomen who think we must keep illegal aliens here) must resign. We must elect people who will stop illegal immigration NOW. Posted by: Eliza on October 20, 2005 06:34 AM It is very sad to hear a former POW " American hero"to sound so defeated by stating that deportation of illegal immigrants is "unrealistic". Does he doubts the American's resolve, part of what he himself showed while a POW in VietNam? This illegal aliens invasion we are undergoing is NOT about compassion and or "opportunities" for people who "want to come just to work", it is about America's survival of its culture, language,standard of living and quality of life. Senator McCain's hunger for power by becoming President of the U.S blinds him to America's destruction. Senator Kennedy, he needs to retire to his "Camelot" world and stop hurting his fellow citizens. The Lady who holds the lamp beside the golden door, is not saying "send me your reconquistas and your america's haters". Durbin is one of my local traitors dressed in Senators' clothes. I could write this idiot and Gutierrez every day for the rest of my life and all it would get me is carpal tunnel and a tax audit. Illinois is screwed! All we have is traitors with the possible exception of one Senator up north and one possible candidate for governor (Oberweis). Please remember all of these traitors when election time comes around and then hope for a better outcome than the last (4) elections (Clinton included). Posted by: cicerores on October 20, 2005 10:49 AMHas McCain gone Mexican? Sure these illegals can be deported - the $1 billion our government recently came up with to repay hospitals for illegal medical fees could have paid for a lot of bus drivers and gas during the summer months when so many school buses sat idle. Our government just does not want to deport them. Also, our legislators need to change some existing laws that are protecting these illegals and costing us so dearly. Anchor babies for one. And why do the illegals have "legal recourse" before being able to deport them?? They are "illegal" and therefore should have no rights. Why can't we simply return OTM's back across the Mexican border - (they came in that way)? I firmly believe all our government does is work toward getting voted in again, and nothing for the good of the people. How do we stop this madness? Posted by: Donna on October 20, 2005 11:00 AMJohn McCain is the second biggest blow hard (the first is Teddy (the murderer)Kennedy. He (John)is truly beyond words. I pray the people in Arizona read this moron's statement and get rid of his a** Myers, Cuban Exile Steam Through Confirmation Hearing for Top DHS Jobs "Senators Tuesday had few questions for a Cuban exile from Miami who was a top My question is this, why is there even a top Latin America policy advisor in the Bush administration? And why is this someone on the verge of becoming director of the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services? This person is not even born here but yet is going to be in charge of Citizenship and Immigration...what the hell?? Posted by: Brian on October 19, 2005 12:13 PMThe corruption and cronyism of this administration is unprecedented and disgusting. Immigration reform will continue to be best represented by the efforts of grassroots organizations like FAIR and NumbersUSA. Don't give either political party a dime, instead make all your donations to immigration reform groups. Posted by: Cynthia on October 19, 2005 12:43 PMThis man in the White House sees himself as king--nay, as emperor! He thinks he has divine right to rule and make the decisions he pleases. I believe that he may have become mentally unbalanced. Why on earth would anyone in their RIGHT mind be doing these things and destroying his own base of support. As we say in Texas, "It just don't make sense!" Posted by: J on October 19, 2005 01:17 PMBush is stacking the F'n deck against us so he will have total traitor influence when he mercifully leaves office at last. We're going to be left with Illegals and their sympathizers running our country and running us out of it at the same time. Bastille day II. Stay tuned. Posted by: cicerores on October 19, 2005 04:40 PMWhy can any non-citizen or non natural born citizen hold any office of substance in this country??? Just as we are hearing for the call to amend the constitution so Arnold Schwarzenneger can run for president, there is a reason why we don't allow foreigners to hold office! Bush continues to disappoint on every level! How eager will a Cuban exile be to amend our laws to allow even more Cubans in to the country? ARRRRRGH! Posted by: takn on October 19, 2005 05:10 PMWhat a total joke this is. Posted by: Debbie on October 20, 2005 03:41 AMWe are Sooooo Screwwwwwed! Late night sessions from Hell. Business as usual. Posted by: cicerores on October 20, 2005 10:53 AMJ You are right. Bush after he leaves office will not be "gone". His brother, married to a Mexican and his Nephew, will still be around and being goomed into the Presidency. Think of the millions of legal and illegal "Hispanics" votes they are gathering beholding to them . I can understand why the Mexicans and Cubans and other Hispanics, would like to change the culture of America to implement their own in "a foreign land". I just can't understand Bushes, McCain, Kennedy and other pro illegal immigrants motives,amog them our own Senators and Congressman. Quest for "power" and never ending wealth,in exchange for the destruction of yesterday America? Posted by: Hispanicborn on October 20, 2005 11:15 AMBush Promises Border Action, Pushes Guestworker Plan "President Bush, seeking to deal with what critics inside and outside of I'm sure these "temporary" workers will gladly pack up and leave when their tenure is up! Yeah right! Just like the idiocy that tells illegals to show up for a deportation hearing, this is simply the government's way of passing the buck. How can you offer "temporary" work and not even address the border security issue? Can they guarantee that no one else will cross the border then access "fraudulent" documentation proving they were here before the new law takes affect? So, 'guestworkers' who drop a baby here during their 6-year stay? Yeah, thanks a lot. Posted by: Bill Dexter on October 19, 2005 12:03 PMAnd why would these "guest workers" ever return home at he end of their visa period? They won't, unless we have interior enforcement first that ensures they can not live here illegally. This guest worker plan will just become a cheaper and easier way for illegals to enter the US and stay illegally. The gov't has no plan to address this likely scenario and we will be sitting here with 30M illegals in 10 years we can't get rid of and the same old amnesty programs will resurface. It is an ill-conceived and poorly thought through plan. My bet is Bush is fully aware of the short comings. IMHO. Posted by: Weary Citizen on October 19, 2005 12:07 PMHow can Bush even expect us to swallow any guest worker program until he starts enforcing current laws. All illegals should be made to leave and then we only allow only what is needed, and by needed by I mean American employers have to show a lot of proof that they couldn't get Americans to take the jobs at a fair wage. Posted by: Brian on October 19, 2005 12:15 PMYou are right takn. This man has lied through his teeth at every turn on immigration. These promises of greater enforcement are nothing but a ruse to get his amnesty passed. He has no intention of enforcing the law. Posted by: Gail Roma on October 19, 2005 12:27 PMThe idea of some type of guest worker program, esp. one that leads to permanent residency, is going to be harder and harder to sell - which is why Bush and his cronies are in a frenzy now to pass something before it is too late. Bush was dealt a huge setback by Katrina. Now, as winter approaches, home heating bills are going to be a big concern. Next will be inflation. It was reported this week that wholesale prices rose 1.9% in Sept, the biggest jump in 15 years. The raw price of materials up 10.2%, energy up 7.1% and since Sept. 2004 overall inflation up 6.9% (much more than economists' predictions of 1.2%). It is said that retailers are absorbing most of the costs now but eventually they will have to pass them on to consumers. As inflation spirals out of control due to high energy prices many businesses will suffer, interest rates will increase, and the housing bubble will begin to collapse. Jobs will be at a premium. We saw evidence in the rebuilding following Katrina that experienced American construction workers (e.g. electricians) were displaced by illegals. The most persuasive argument against allowing illegals to stay in the U.S. will be the need to keep jobs available for American workers. Posted by: Cynthia on October 19, 2005 12:31 PMIf we need "temporary" workers or "workers who will do jobs Americans won't" we should go back to the chain gangs. We pay a fortune in tax to feed and house those who break the law. Let them earn their keep and help our farmers at the same time. I'll eat letuce picked by a felon. Posted by: Dave Andre on October 19, 2005 12:38 PMI like the way you think "Dave Andre". If the gov't is going to allow slave labor and wages, the taxpayers should at a minimum get the benefit. LOL. Posted by: Weary Citizen on October 19, 2005 01:08 PM"Que' mentiras" as we say--"What lies!". And doublespeak on top of that! Guestworkers? For temporary work/jobs that Americans "won't do"? Oh really? Then who, until all the illegals swarmed here, USED to do these jobs in the past? Americans! This man's grim determination to advance the globalist agenda (regardless of our wishes) and his unnatural preference for a people not his own are utterly sickening. Talk about bull-headed! This man is incredibly ox-like in his will to have it HIS way. And Bill Dexter, I echo your thoughts above. The Mexican stork will just keep up its unwelcome visits as long as there is a way for them to stumble across the border and give birth. A big NO to ANY guestworker program, Bush! Posted by: J on October 19, 2005 01:14 PMSpeaking of lettuce (and other crops), if the large growers are so adamant they need illegal workers to keep costs down and if (by most accounts) the vast majority of "lettuce pickers" are illegals being paid rock bottom wages, then why does my local large chain grocery store sell Iceburg lettuce for $2 a head? And tomatoes at nearly $2 per pound? What a crock. If illegals are being paid low wages to pick lettuce, then I should be paying under a dollar for it. Something is wrong with this equation. I simply don't buy lettuce any more. I bet I could devise a system for growing lettuce which is picked by machine in less than a year, all by myself. Furthermore, I bet I could devise a system to plant, grow and harvest 800 acres using two people. Posted by: TXPatriot on October 19, 2005 02:24 PMPresident Bush is once again deceiving the American people, If the President is honest about addressing Illegal Immigration he should: I live with these people all around me and I KNOW the total disregard they have for the law. Especialy OUR law. When the cops come to tell them to shut off the Ranchero music they just turn it down for a moment, laugh, then turn it up as soon as their spotter says the coast is clear. They single handedly support the scanner industry so you can imagine how hard they will laugh when they are asked to go home! Kepp trying Bush (idiot). Posted by: cicerores on October 19, 2005 04:29 PMIt's been 40 years of one illegal immigrant and drug smuggler amnesty after another, guess we just don't have enough poverty, gangs, crime and drugs in this country. That's what I've seen in California, and as of yet, not one iota of any 'security' that was always promised along with the open border, and the welfare. Going on three generations now, of drug addicts, welfare addicts and gang familes, passing their 'culture' down through the family. My God, I expect by 1950, when I'm 95, Spanish will be the official language of the United States of....Latin America. Posted by: Kathy on October 19, 2005 04:45 PM
But at least the dullard finally got it into his skull that the people of America want the immigration laws enforced. There is of course no way that he will ever do more than make a pathetic public relations pitch to do something that he has obstinately refused to do during his entire administration, which is to engage in even the most miniscule enforcement of the immigration laws. The guy is an absolute joke. And so is his amnesty program.
Hispanicborn I mean you hit the nail on the head. I agree, but they are all scared of the hispanics calling them racist, it is about the vote. I am the idiot, I voted for Bush twice(I agree with his religious views) surely Al Gore would not have been as bad. Don't even get me stated on the war. Posted by: guy-rhonda on October 19, 2005 09:00 PMURGENT ALERT! On Thursday, October 20 the Senate Judiciary Committee will hold a hearing to consider allowing an ADDITIONAL 60,000 H-1B Visas to be issued per year for the next 5 years. This would be an absolute disaster for those American citizens lucky enough to still be working in information technology and other white collar professions. Senators Arlen Specter and Edward Kennedy appear to be the architects of this. But wait, it gets even worse ... The Senate proposal also plans to exempt spouses and Senators Arlen Specter and Edward Kennedy have undoubtedly crafted this proposal at the request of their corporate masters. The contact information for the members of the Senate appears below.
Joseph Biden (DE) (Assistant - Louisa Terrell) Richard Durbin (IL) (Assistant - Joe Zogby) Russell Feingold (WI) (Assistant - Lara Flint) Dianne Feinstein (CA) (Assistant - Monserrat Miller) Edward Kennedy (MA) (Assistant - Esther Olavarria) Herb Kohl (WI) (Assistant - Nate Jones) Patrick Leahy (VT) (Assistant - Tara Magner) Charles Schumer (NY) (Assistant - Ariell Goren)
Sam Brownback (KS) (Assistant - Bryan Clark) Tom Coburn (OK) (Assistant - Matt Blackburn) John Cornyn (TX) (Assistant - Reid O'Connor) Mike DeWine (OH) (Assistant - Casey Yerkes) Lindsey Graham (SC) (Assistant - Matthew Rimkunis) Charles Grassley (IA) (assistant - Kathy Nuebel Kovarik) Orrin Hatch (UT) (Assistant - Terry Barber) Jon Kyl (AZ) (Assistant - Michael Dougherty) Jeff Sessions (AL) (Assistant - Cindy Hayden) Arlen Specter (PA) (Assistant - Juria Jones)
Do not give up the American Dream without a fight! No "guestworkers". These are not invited "guests", they are criminal, illiterate, unskilled persons who have an outrageously false sense of entitlement to benefits/privileges/rewards of citizenship in the U.S. Enough is enough. Posted by: mali on October 20, 2005 01:19 AMThis guestworker program is sorely needed. I agreed with his "religious views", too--until I realized that these "views" produce no action except for, perhaps, faithful monogamy with Laura and a lack of scenarios of oral sex in the White House. Part of our religion are these famous sayings: Thou shalt not lie. ("We are going to deal with this immigration situation....") Thou shalt not steal. ("These folks are only taking jobs that Americans won't do...") Thou shalt not bear false witness. ("...weapons of mass destruction...") Our president may need a refresher course. Posted by: J on October 20, 2005 08:26 AM Bill O'Riley said on his 10/19/05 show, that Bush could send the national gaurd to the Mexican border with the stroke of a pen and stop illegal immigrants and the Mexican drug cartel which supplies most of the cocain and a very large part of the meth sold in the US. Mr O'Riley went on to say that Vincente Fox would become enraged and that is one reason Bush refuses to do this. Upwardbound, you make several good points. Hungry young Latino workers are very industrious, indeed. Having no requirement to support the infrastructure that supports them, they are able to easily under-cut Americans. Also, when a host of foreign countries are able to send most of their top 3% performing students to this country to attend college, then, yes, they will show up at the top of the grade curve here, too. Employers in America enjoy both. You also say this is needed. Needed by who? Will you still believe that when you are replaced? If having the fastest, cheapest labor is the goal, then should we re-institute slavery? I hope you take the time to join this conversation. I will be happy to answer your questions (as time permits) and consider your points. To the comment made by Upwardbound regarding the "superiority" of the illegal's work, I have only this to say again: If these "folks" (Bush terminology) are so skilled, so industrious, so hard-working, so superior--why on earth does this not show up in their OWN countries??!! I have lived in Mexico. I KNOW what they really do, how they slack off immediately when not directly supervised, how they do NOT exhibit pride in workmanship (except very certain artesans such as silversmiths, etc.), and how they are content to put everything off "hasta luego." They are truly inept when it comes to maintaining honest standards--behold what they have created--MEXICO! When the Germans came to Texas as immigrants, they, too, were deemed (correctly) to be industrious, hard-working, etc. HOWEVER, one only had to look back at the superior workmanship evident everywhere in Germany throughout the years to know that the work these German immigrants did would prove to be enduring and of highest quality. These illegals from Mexico and Central America do shabby work as soon as they are given the freedom from direct supervision--except for a very few. My Hispanic brother-in-law will not hire them (he is an electrician)--he says they can not be trusted to do what is right when it boils down to a matter of "conscience" and pride in workmanship in matters where no one else can see the final product. Frankly, it scares the "bejeebers" out of me to know that they are doing wiring, laying brick, etc. I saw what they did at the school I was at when they built the new section of the building. Sloppy, sloppy work compared to American masons, American electricians, etc. These illegals can only "compete" due to the fact that they can be abused with their own consent. Are some of them good at what they do? Sure. But just imagine the shoddy first attempts that they had to go through when first "turned loose" to work here! No real apprenticeship, no testing, etc. Imagine a football game where one team was allowed to continue scoring through half-time and time-outs and where this same team never had to pay attention to any of the penalty flags thrown down. Of course this team would "win". And EVERYONE (including this false winner) loses. Competitive? Ha! Don't think so! Go visit Mexico and live there for two years. You will see the "superior workmanship" reveal itself. Posted by: J on October 21, 2005 07:54 AM |
jobs in Louisiana. "The huge influx of Hispanic laborers has some officials, Mayor Ray Nagin among them, worried about New Orleans' changing demographics and wondering why more of their jobs haven't gone to locals. . . Most [workers] are Latino. Indeed, on similar jobs throughout the hurricane-ravaged region, a majority of the workers are Latino, primarily coming from Texas," the paper reports. "On many days, I'm making more than $300," one illegal worker said. "I'm going to stay about one month more, and I'll have made a lot of money here."
urged Congress to include provisions for illegal immigrants to stay in the country . . . Any plan that would deport illegal immigrants before allowing them to apply for a guest worker program is unrealistic, said McCain, R-Ariz., who has introduced a temporary worker bill with Kennedy," the AP reports. "'Somebody is going to have to explain how that is workable,' McCain said of a bill that would deport illegal immigrants. 'My friends, that's not what the lady who holds the lamp beside the golden door is all about.'"
Latin America policy advisor in the Bush administration and is now on the verge of becoming director of the U.S. Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services," the Miami Herald reports. "Only three senators attended the confirmation hearing for Gonzalez and two other nominees: Julie Myers to head Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and James O'Gara to be deputy director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy." Debbie Schlussel 
Washington say is out-of-control illegal immigration, yesterday promised tough action to secure the country's borders as administration officials outlined a plan to allow illegal immigrants living here and foreign workers to work in the United States for as long as six years before returning home permanently," the Washington Post reports. "Earlier in the day, Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff provided the Senate Judiciary Committee with the most detailed explanation to date of the administration's plan to create a temporary worker program."
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