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May 23, 2007
New Poll Shows Terror Support Among Muslims in U.S. "The message of the just-released Pew Research In a related story, the San Antonio Express News has a four-part series on illegal aliens from the Middle East who are smuggled across the Mexican border. "The deals cut at places like Al Nawateer [in Syria] could affect you. Americans from San Antonio to Detroit might find themselves living among immigrants from Islamic countries who have come to America with darker pursuits than escaping war or starting a new life . . . U.S.-bound illicit travel from Islamic countries, which started long before 9-11 and includes some reputed terrorists, has gained momentum and worried counterterrorism officials as smugglers exploit 2 million Iraq war refugees. The irony is that the war America started to make itself safer has forced more people regarded as security threats toward its borders." "'They are not all economic migrants,' said attorney Janice Kephart, who served as legal counsel for the 9-11 Commission and co-wrote its final staff report. 'I do get frustrated when people who live in Washington or Illinois say we don't have any evidence that terrorists are coming across. But there is evidence.'" Comments
I made some comments at Jihad Watch on this survey, which reveals interesting info in its appendices. http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf "To compensate respondents for their time and to make participation in the survey more attractive, an incentive of $50 was offered for completing the interview. The study began with $25 incentive, but this was subsequently increased to $50 to further minimize mid-interview termination. Three-quarters of the respondents provided name and address information for receiving the incentive payment." Page 72 of pdf. The poll questions are in categories, Q.A, Q.B, etc. Q.D. (page 95 of pdf) is about discrimination against Muslims. Q.F is where they start to ask about extremism by Muslims . Q.F. is page 95 of the pdf. So when the poll switched from Muslims being discriminated against to Muslims engaged in terrorism, people stopped answering questions when they were paid 25 dollars. So they had to increase the payment from 25 dollars to 50 dollars so that people would continue to answer questions after Muslims being discriminated against in Q.D. to Muslim terrorism in Q.F and afterwards. Q.H is when they ask the heavy questions on Muslim terrorism, almost the end of the poll. More here: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016578.php#comments and here http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016577.php Conclusion: If you pay 25 dollars for people to answer, they will complain about discrimination but won't say terrorism is bad or al Qaeda is bad, but if you pay them 50 dollars they will say those things. Posted by: Old Atlantic on May 23, 2007 01:43 PM ITS OK TO HATE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS IN AMERICA Its not just the Muslims; its the MSM too. When have we heard the MSM support the Middle Class, America's backbone and only hope? No, all we generally hear from these con artist buffoons is implied rosey for the entire Middle Class, re: how rich and stingy we all are (hogging all the world's oil). The Middle Class' flat or decreasing wages are a moot point, not news worthy. The American average wage increases the MSM report always include the rich elite massive wage increases averaged in, as what is the wage increases and decreases specifically by Middle Class household income group? The MSM would never go there. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 23, 2007 02:00 PM http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf "To compensate respondents for their time and to make participation in the survey more attractive, an incentive of $50 was offered for completing the interview. The study began with $25 incentive, but this was subsequently increased to $50 to further minimize mid-interview termination. Three-quarters of the respondents provided name and address information for receiving the incentive payment." Page 72 of pdf. The poll questions are in categories, Q.A, Q.B, etc. Q.D. (page 95 of pdf) is about discrimination against Muslims. Q.F is where they start to ask about extremism by Muslims . Q.F. is page 95 of the pdf. So when the poll switched from Muslims being discriminated against to Muslims engaged in terrorism, people stopped answering questions when they were paid 25 dollars. So they had to increase the payment from 25 dollars to 50 dollars so that people would continue to answer questions after Muslims being discriminated against in Q.D. to Muslim terrorism in Q.F and afterwards. Q.H is when they ask the heavy questions on Muslim terrorism, almost the end of the poll. Posted by: Old Atlantic on May 23, 2007 02:33 PM No evidence of terrorists coming across? From the same folks who said there IS evidence of WMD's? Which side of their mouths are they speaking out of today? Ft. Dix? Islamberg? Even if there is no evidence, secure the border now. I don't lock my doors and windows at night because their is no evidence of burglars, home invaders, or meth heads in the neighborhood. I do it because it would be stupid not to. Even if the muslims we import don't already have bombs strapped on, the fact that they endorse such action, and are members of the same groups we are at war with now, should be enough to deny entry. Did the British allow the SS to immigrate after 1939. No. Did we send Hawaiian vacation coupons to the Japanese after 1941? Hell no. Did we learn anything from WWII? From the Soviets and the Cuban missile crisis? Apparently not. At least JFK knew how to respond to enemies that threaten democracy and the lives and homes of the American people, as he quickly introduced them to a fully primed U.S. Navy, not with green cards, amnesties, and the keys to the social service office. Our Citizenship is not some cheap commodity for enhancing corporate profits. And amnesty, and the foreign bases called sanctuary cities, is an abomination that should never be tolerated. It is a slap in the face of all who defend our Nations borders, and our heritage, here and abroad. Does no one in Washington comprehend 140 years of Memorial Days and why millions of our soldiers are in Normandy, and countless other cemeteries? My thanks and prayers to all who paid the price for American freedoms, sovereignty and security. God bless you all. Thanks to Mr. Stein, and all on this site, for holding true to that fight. Posted by: jeebie on May 23, 2007 03:01 PM Steinreport.com only circulates biased negative studies and guilt by association stories about Islam because the majority of Muslims have brown skin while by convenience you omit any mention of the white thugs from Ireland who blow up buildings. Your racist agenda manifests in other ways. The recent obsession about H-1b is only occurring because that is the major visa used by brown people to come to America. It is certain that you would not bark and howl about legal status for Mexican migrants if those migrants were white. Fair and NumbersUsa are simply 21st century versions of the KKK with a small amount of lipstick and perfume added. Posted by: Rizwan on May 23, 2007 03:56 PM But the majority of muslims are moderate. What all these whiny gushing liberals, who will get us all killed wiht their "compaaaasssion", is what that relativley small 13% portion represents in actual numbers. That represents around 300K people. That is an army by most any measure. But the MSM and libs always downplay it and say but the majority are "good people of the religion of peace". Then they continue to campaign the gullible PC gov't to bring MORE in. For god's sakes, for every 10K muslims the idiots in our gov't allow to immigrate here (under whatever reason) 130 of them have the capacity to kill many Americans through suicide bombomgs. And reality is that the survey encompassed people who may be 2rd or 3rd generation Americans and have assimilated (to some degree). I bet the new arrivals have a MUCH higher proportion that support sucide bombings. The idiots in DC will never learn. We must stop ALL muslim immigration. Period. If/when they become "enlightened", we can revisit allowing a small number to immigrate. But importing terrorism through a known group of people due to PC is not only ignorant, it is also suicidal. Posted by: Weary Citizen on May 23, 2007 03:59 PM HELLO RIZWAN Can't we talk immigration without bringing up the race card? This is just a mathematical survey Rizwan, not a personal attack on your ethnic group. Its not racist that many psychotic Caucasion Religious Right nuts would love to bomb abortion clinics in America, as its not racist that many Muslins would love to burn down a building that printed a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb on its head. Nuts are nuts Rizwan, they come in all colors. Posted by: Softwarengineer on May 23, 2007 05:54 PM Well said, SWE. Rizwan, I have no inherent prejudice against Muslim people. I had a great math teacher and a doctor who once really helped me. But you have to admit, some of the Muslim groups are crazy. Posted by: Bobby on May 23, 2007 06:50 PM RIZWAN, You just got it right, the modern KKK. BTW- The KKK is joining forces with anti-immigrant groups today to "make America whiter". Posted by: Human Being on May 23, 2007 07:19 PM riz and HB, the study lays out FACTS from a FAR LEFT LIBERAL organization to boot. Dispute the facts, rather than used the "I don't have a real argument" name calling strategy (a tactic espoused by communists to shut down debate on undefendable issues). Tell me how it is flawed. Tell me it is all wrong and back it up. YOU CAN'T!!!!! Because it shows the true colors of the "practitioners of the religion of peace". Not that we needed a study to know this anyway. And your ridiculous spurrious arguments aobut the IRA, lauaghable. Sure the IRA did awful things on rare occasions but they have not been active for 20 years. So your comparisons are ridiculous. Look around the world. Where are 99% of all conflicts and what is the cause? Oh yea, the good ol' religion of peace attacking their nieghbors. Wake up you idiot. SWE/Bobby, knock off the PC nonsese. Man I am sick of apologizing for wanting to maintain a decent civliazation. If that is racist/bigot/nativist/xenophobe then so be it. Screw them. I would much rather be called a neame than killed by these good liberals later. They don't knwo anything about us, but they love to call names. You guys are falling all over yourselves to prove you are not a bigot. Unbleivable and very disappointing!!! We will never defeat these open borders whackos if you are afraid of being called a damn name. Posted by: Weary Citizen on May 24, 2007 10:36 AM National security and the unintended consequences of tolerating illegal immigration, with "it's just a little harmless ID theft". An interesting clip from Michelle Malkin. http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/vent-retro-connect-the-dots/ Posted by: jeebie on May 24, 2007 02:43 PM More Muslims have emigrated to America under Bush than in the prior 200 years combined. Posted by: Smitty on May 24, 2007 08:06 PM |
Center study on "Muslim Americans" is clear (if you can get beyond the biased press coverage and headlines): America hasn't moderated Islam or its adherents. Islam has made America Muslim residents more extreme, just as with its European counterparts. Wealth and education and opportunity and freedom have done nothing to moderate them," says Debbie Schlussel. "More than one in four Muslims (or 26%), aged 18-29, said 'Suicide Bombing is Justified.' 2% percent of them say it can often be justified, 13% say sometimes, and 11% say rarely. Add to that, the 5% don't know/refused to answer this easy, instinctive question, and it's even worse--for a total of 31%--almost a third of young American Muslims, who support homicide bombings."