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March 15, 2007
Barletta Testifies in Hazleton Trial "Hazleton Mayor Louis Barletta testified yesterday that his city needs another Comments
If Barletta has such a problem with "Hispanics", maybe he should GO BACK TO ITALY where he won't have to encounter ANY whatsoever! Otherwise, its gonna be TOUGH NUGGIES! What part of MELTING POT is so hard to understand? Barletta; GO BACK TO ITALY! Posted by: Fat_Man on March 15, 2007 10:17 AM The ACLU should change its name to SCUM, because that's what they are. Anti-American, self-appointed, bleeding heart SCUM! Numbers or not, we all know that illegals are draining our resources and also committing crime. A man was shot in the face by an ILLEGAL ALIEN, i.e. someone who has no right being here in the first place. We don't need more statistics. Even one number under those circumstances is enough and the culprits should be deported. Go to hell, ACLU! Posted by: Born American on March 15, 2007 10:40 AM Does not look good for Mayor Louis Barletta. You don't go into any court under an assumption, and I am surprised that his attorneys would have agreed to this trial will such little factual information in hand. Not only will the ACLU win this case but they will use this as an example to discredit the efforts of communities across this country who are battling mass illegal migration. Posted by: John Martin on March 15, 2007 11:13 AM HAZELTON COURTROOM BULLETS START TO FLY; THE ARGUMENT SEEMS TO HINGE ON WHETHER LOCAL COMMUNITIES CAN IMPLEMENT SAFE COMMUNITY ACTIONS THAT DIFFER FROM CURRENT FEDERAL INACTION (I.E., MINIMUM WAGE) WITHOUT LEGALLY DIFFERRING TOO MUCH This case depends on the judge's personal opinion, because immigration compared to say, local minimum wage differences in States to Federal, is a slightly ambiguous rationale to allow Hazelton local ordinance freedom, re: local lattitude in federal immigration laws arenas. I sure hope that judge reads FAIRUS.ORG articles, as we need to CONTINUOUSLY educate more of America to fight this evil and completely brainless OVERPOPULATION destruction of our country. Keep up the EXCELLENT WORK, FAIRUS.ORG!!! Here's yesterday's Lou Dobbs highlights from the CNN transcripts in part: "...DOBBS: Well, there are other doctrines at work here, and amongst them, the sovereignty of the nation. We'll get into that with Mr. Mr. Toobin here in just a moment. Bill Tucker, thank you. Keep us up-to-date as the trial continues in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Thank you. Well, now CNN's Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin does join me. And I -- I have to say if this isn't the silliest bunch of nonsense I have ever seen. Not speaking as a lawyer, that's your job, but this is ignorance at its most rampant best. JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SR. LEGLA ANALYST: Well, there really is a delicious irony at the part -- on the part of the plaintiffs in this case. They're saying that this whole subject, illegal immigration, anything related to migration across borders, is entirely the responsibility of the federal government. But the reason Hazleton passed the law, in the first place, is the view of the majority of the Hazleton city council that the federal government has failed so dramatically to -- DOBBS: This is -- this is why I say it's such ignorance. What I would love to see is the town's attorneys hold up that sound byte from President Felipe Calderon of Mexico saying he wants open borders. He doesn't care what the federal -- U.S. federal law is. He has a sense of entitlement, just as do most of the people who are emigrating into this country illegally. And most of those idiotic organizations, who don't see any point beyond the narrow interests that they're pursuing. How -- how close is this case, in your judgment? TOOBIN: You know what, I think -- it may be an idiotic argument, but it may be a winning argument. DOBBS: That's the nature of law. TOOBIN: That's right. Federal courts are very reluctant to let localities trample on what they regard as federal sovereignty. Federal judges believe in federal law -- DOBBS: Let's go back here. How close do you think this is? Do you think this judge has enough existing law to make a determination in case law -- to make a determination that yes, a community in this country has a right when the federal government fails to enforce the laws that it's passing to defend itself against detrimental effects of illegal immigration. TOOBIN: Well, it is true that just because a subject is also dealt with in federal law, it doesn't mean that localities can't deal with it at all. Just to take an easy example, minimum wage. There's a federal minimum wage, but there's nothing stopping states from raising their minimum wages higher. DOBBS: Right. TOOBIN: Which is something many states have done. That's essentially the argument here. Is that this argument -- that the Hazleton is simply adding to, not conflicting with, federal law. DOBBS: Absolutely. And shouldn't that be persuasive at least as a legal argument whether or not this specific case meets the test, whatever those tests are? TOOBIN: The problem is that immigration is not like -- not like -- DOBBS: It's hard to find an exact analog. TOOBIN: It's hard to find an exact analog. And I think it's a tough case. A lot will depend on what the judge really thinks is going on here. Whether he thinks this is good faith -- (CROSS TALK) DOBBS: ...for the judge. Can I tell you what's going on here? Corporate America is trying to have its way in court, in our workplaces, in our Congress, and take away every possible right from a middle class that's under assault by every special interest group in this country. Did you hear me, judge? I don't know if that's intrusive into the process, the legal process, but that's what's going on. Jeffrey Toobin, we'll be -- will you be with us to guide us through this? TOOBIN: Absolutely. It's going to be a great case. It already is a great case. DOBBS: Unbelievable. The shame is that a community has to go through this. A raid against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the ACLU, Pennsylvania ACLU. Big law firms. The Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund. It just gets better and better. It must be kind of important. TOOBIN: And the president of Guatemala was even mentioned in court today. DOBBS: When you get NAFTA, I mean, my goodness, we wouldn't want to have a community in this country do anything without checking in with Guatemala, Mexico, or maybe Romania, check in with Vladimir Putin. (LAUGHTER)..." Posted by: Softwarengineer on March 15, 2007 11:15 AM The problem with the "melting pot" idea is that it is just an idea. a pretty idea maybe. an enobling idea maybe, but nonetheless, just an idea. Currently, the United States is only a cauldron of unstable chemicals waiting to explode. Posted by: Angus MacLeod on March 15, 2007 12:13 PM HEY FAT MAN, WHAT PART OF "OVERPOPULATION" CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Almost all EDUCATED demographers have said America was over-full at 200,000,000 and now we have 300,000,000 with more of your brainless (uneducated?) buddies wanting it to reach 400,000,000 in a decade or two. We should have froze American immigration decades ago, but doing it now at least keeps the destruction from getting even worse. By the way Fat Man, most of the folks the age of Mayor Barletta (50-60) were the American Baby Boom generation. We, unlike the typical mass of immigration you want to OVERPOPULATE America with, kept our child birth WAY DOWN to depopulate America the last several decades. Where's the American Middle Class Baby Boomer environmental kudos from Al Gore and the Democrat Party? Posted by: Softwarengineer on March 15, 2007 12:34 PM Nice legal background, SWengineer. Clearly if the Federal government does not protect the States from invasion, they have the perogative/obligation to do this themselves under the 10th Amendment "Amendment X Posted by: Kerthialfad on March 15, 2007 01:21 PM If we American people let these illegal invade this country, land, American jobs,then we can say goodbye to everything what belong to America, that is why, we American people, need to stand up and not let these criminals, illegals take over America and its culture, land , and its natural resoures. Wake up, American people, call your senators and tell them to oppose amnesty lagislation bill. Posted by: jack on March 15, 2007 01:46 PM The ACLU is a traitorous organization to America and Americans. They have never really helped an American with anything. They spend their time going around this nation looking for crosses to remove from places where they have been for years, they interfere with American citizens ability to govern their towns, they will lead us into a full fledged dictatorship and if people don't fight against these perverted communists, we will soon be fighting against each other. Don't kid yourselves. Congressman Tom Tancredo, for President,-2008- send him a few bucks to get these establishment traitors off our backs. Spread the word as much as you can. Posted by: Bobby on March 15, 2007 01:53 PM Fat Man, Posted by: Ella on March 15, 2007 02:09 PM P.S. Mayor Barletta DOESN'T have a problem with LEGAL Hispanics. Are you smart enough to understand that? Posted by: Ella on March 15, 2007 02:12 PM Hey Fat and John, what part of illegal don't you guys understand. Illegal aliens are not suppose to be in our country and if a city has one that is one to many. Taxpayers have to support them which we should not have to. Posted by: Beckyal on March 15, 2007 02:42 PM "Mayor Barletta IS a NATIVE AMERICAN!" Utter non sense Ella. NATIVE Americans do not have PARENTS that were STINKING IMMIGRANTS (OH THE HORROR) from Italy! The sheer HYPOCRISY of watching Barletta give TV interviews in the Hazleton Mayors office...with a large ITALIAN FLAG displayed prominently is just over the top! IMAGINE the FUROR if a Mexican-American Mayor gave TV interviews with a...MEXICAN flag displayed prominently in the Mayors office? No ella, NATIVE Americans are the ones European ILLEGAL ALIENS stole the land from! You forgot? Well, let me remind you! And now, these descendants of Europeans whine and demand others respect "the law". SLAVERY was the law. Runaway SLAVES were afoul of the law! Screw Barletta, if he has such a problem with us, he can always GO BACK TO ITALY where he won't have to see ANY "Hispanics" whatsoever! After all, Italy ( as well as Ireland and many other Euro countries) grant automatic residency and even citizenship rights to children and grandchildren of Italian immigrants. Softwareengineer; It please me greatly to learn you are over 50 years old! One thing most of you HATERS have in common is that you are usually OLD foggies...often longing for a return to "50s". Well, the 50s are OVER and will NEVER return! And when this current generation of hate mongers dies off...soon I hope...there is gonna be some changes around here! You see, WE ARE THE FUTURE....you are the past! And your contention that the USA is overpopulated is subjective...certainly not OBJECTIVE! Bottom line: America has been MULTI-RACIAL, MULTI-CULTURAL, MULTI-RELIGOUS, ETC since the first day EUROPEAN illegal aliens set foot on this continent! If you "European-Americans"....as opposed to NATIVE Americans...have a problem with this NOW...consider going BACK TO EUROPE... Otherwise....cry me a river! Posted by: Fat_Man on March 15, 2007 03:05 PM To Fat_Man, The Hazelton Mayor is a legal US citizen. Mayor Villaraigosa pretty much supports all that is Mexican, but their hasn't been enough furor over his antics. Stop living in the past yourself and quit bringing up historical stuff like slavery and Europeans coming to North America. An America has been from day one mostly one race, one language and still is. And one culture dominates all the rest. There are other races, cultures, etc. but they are a relatively small percentage of the total. Posted by: Steve on March 15, 2007 05:18 PM Fat-Man, your last post is refreshing. I'm glad you finally came out of the closet and wrote plainly. No doubt now, that you were one of the reconquistas, during the Gran Marches that took place across our country last year. You forgot to write at the end of your post, Viva Mehico!! Right? Posted by: Bobby on March 15, 2007 05:20 PM The government (e.g. Bush) will ignore most of you who are responding above. You must be racists and bigots to have sentiments against immigration. Your opinions do not therefore deserve representation. I think that we should formalize this notion by questioning all those who vote about their views. Then refuse voting rights to all those who resist immigration in any way. At least we would finally be honest. Posted by: James on March 15, 2007 07:07 PM "Lawyer Witold Walczak, of the American Civil Liberties Union, got the mayor to concede that he could not name a single instance where illegal immigrants had received service from Hazleton's fire department or health officer. Mr. Barletta also was forced to admit he had no proof that illegal immigrants were the source of schools so crowded that numerous classes have to be taught in trailers." Ain't that the truth? Ain't that always the case? Whenever an anti-immigrant fanatic is going off at the mouth, they always come to a sudden halt whenever someone asks them for evidence to substantiate their claims. Posted by: Ralph on March 15, 2007 07:42 PM Several people on this blog have indicated that they would like to know where the ACLU gets the financial support to file all of these lawsuits on behalf of illegal aliens. You can get some insight into the background and the financing of the ACLU by reading the following report. Look under the section titled “MISSION ACLU: ANTICIPATE AND NEUTRALIZE THE OPPOSITION” There you will find: “Between 2000 and 2004, major financiers of the ACLU include: Ford Foundation - $9,120,000 The ACLU is financed by foundations that, for the most part, were created by global corporate and financial elitists. That means that the ACLU is actually controlled by wealthy and powerful corporatists who rely on the wage suppression caused by massive numbers of illegal aliens and legal immigrants to grow even more wealthy and powerful. As I have stated before here, we are not fighting a radical left wing agenda, even though many left wing liberals are a part of it. No, we are fighting a radical corporate agenda. Posted by: Steph on March 15, 2007 08:28 PM Hey Fat-man I work for the Border Patrol, and most of the 10,000 agents support the overwhelming odds he is against by cut-throat losers to the American people such as the ACLU. Get a life in THESE UNITED STATES and support it and the FREEDOM or get the hell out. Posted by: one who knows on March 15, 2007 09:48 PM Note: the concept of the "melting pot" is based upon legal honor and respect (and duty in abiding by) our U.S. Constitution. The Constitution makes clear that illegal aliens in our nation are in violation of laws (several) and that the penalty for that is deportation. All the legal immigrants are a part of the "melting pot." The people who lie, cheat, sneak and steal their way here and/or remain here by lying, cheating, etc. are the criminal element and based upon their own choices and elected behaviors, they declare themselves to be apart from us as a nation. Anyone who sincerely wants U.S. citizenship and is here illegally, go home, apply for legal immigration and do what's required to meet the requirements. If you fail to meet the requiremens, you are not welcome in the U.S. Posted by: -S- on March 15, 2007 10:59 PM Fat_Man: Your racism and ethnic supremacists views are exactly what the U.S. does not need nor want. We need to get people like yourself out of our nation as soon as possible because you declare yourself by what you write here as opposed to our U.S. Constitution. Citizenship is not a racial nor ethnic thing. It's based upon legitimacy and declaration to our democracy as defined in our Constitution by the RULE OF LAW. Not the "rule of Fat_Man's racism." Posted by: -S- on March 15, 2007 11:01 PM a trip to southern california would be a good education for people who think mass immigration is good. we lock our doors and fence in our properties ( I'll bet even the aclu lawyers do) why is controlling who comes into our country wrong. every country I've traveled to I've needed a passport and visa. can't get a hotel without it. only in america. sneak in and set up housekeeping and tell the citizenry to go back to europe and then the "president" applauds them as heroes. go figure Posted by: larry on March 16, 2007 12:24 AM It is all about work. Plain and simple. We want cheap products and services and this is what we get. Posted by: YucMan on March 16, 2007 05:14 AM -S- If I am such a racist and ethnic supremacist, why do you figure 62 United States Senators agree with me as indicated by their YEA votes for S 2611 which would have put most illegal immigrants in the USA on a 17 year path to citizenship? By your logic then, here is a list of my fellow racist ethnic supremacists; Akaka (D-HI) I suppose I could add US President Bush and former US President Clinton to the list. Furthermore, exit polls from last Novembers election indicate 60% of the voters endorse some type of LEGALIZATION for most of the illegal immigrant population; http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/nation_world/article/0,2845,MCA_25345_5413437,00.html Funny how all these folks agree with me...and not YOU and FAIR -S-. I guess we are ALL just racist ethnic supremacists! As for the law, I would remind you that SLAVERY was the law! Runaway slaves were ILLEGAL! In 1820, when the US Government ordered ALL Creek Indians out of Georgia and sent the US Army to REMOVE THEM BY FORCE...that too was the law! The US Army campaigns against the Seminoles of Florida, with the aim of EXTERMINATING them, were also the LAW! The "trail of tears" was the law! Racial segragation was the law until a few decades back! Jim Crow? Separate but Equal? ALL THE LAW -S-. Adolf Hitler rose to power WITHIN THE LAW! The persecutions and genocides of the Nazis? ALL THE LAW! APARTHIED in South Africa? THAT WAS THE LAW! Dred Scott decision? Whats the point you may ask? Point is, the law is not always right or just! This is why the aforementioned law makers seek to amend the law to conform with REAL WORLD realities! No -S-, America has been a melting pot since the FIRST day European ILLEGAL ALIENS set foot upon OUR continent! From that first day, America has been MULTI-RACIAl, MULTI-LINGUAL, MULTI-RELIGIOUS, MULTI-CULTURAL, etc If this is so traumatic for you now, then consider going back where your family came from! I would add -S- that I was born and raised in EAST LA. I am a US Army veteran and a UCLA graduate...I am as American as ANYONE of European descent! Tell me -S-....did YOU ever wear the uniform of this great country? Posted by: Fat_Man on March 16, 2007 08:00 AM Fat man, from you last post, you sound just like some native americans are using that support illegals mexicans. I hope that is not the case. I am native america and I cannot believe that anyone wants people who enter the country without regard to laws in the country. We have worked hard to gain the rights that we have and part of that is by obeying the laws and ensuring that we teach our children right and wrong. Many of us work with our tribes to ensure that our children have education and we have used federal aid at times to do this. Illegals will take the jobs that our families need and reduce the education that we want and need. In addition, water is getting harder to find in the southwest and why should we have to give water to illegals. Posted by: Beckyal on March 16, 2007 08:05 AM Fat Man, Where you from boy? Don't be afraid to tell us. From the looks of your writing inability it appears you ain't from here, nor from your comments are you assimilating very well. How did you get here? A short answer please. Are you hispanic as well? A simple yes or no will suffice. You an illegal too? If yes, maybe you better split before the ICEman gets you. Wait a minute, I need some yard work done... Posted by: Lord Har-har on March 16, 2007 09:06 AM They want permanent Peon/Class to do thier bidding whenever they call! As for US Citizens well Elites have no use for us! Pro Deo et Patria! Posted by: Critter on March 19, 2007 06:03 AM |
30 police officers, but his crime-fighting priority has been creating laws to kick illegal immigrants out of town. During five hours on the witness stand, Mr. Barletta said Hazleton is being ruined by violent crime, crowded schools and a clogged emergency room at the city's private hospital. He attributed many of the problems to what he called 'illegal aliens,' even though he admitted he had no idea how many such immigrants are in his city," the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports. "Mr. Barletta said the ordinances are necessary to stop crime. Mr. Walczak jumped on the comment, telling the mayor it was unrealistic to believe crime could be eliminated. 'Especially when you're trying to do it and you're sued,' Mr. Barletta said."