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October 27, 2006
Bush Signs Fence Bill
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Bush knows that it's the main topic out there. Posted by: Sharon on October 27, 2006 09:44 AM Has anyone told jorge boosh that DENIAL is not just a river in Egypt? How in the hell can he possibly say that he doesn't hear it being discussed out there? and he doesn't see immigration as a key issue? He is either incredibly stupid, or incredibly smart. Posted by: Sippy on October 27, 2006 09:59 AM This past year there has been new state laws passed in an effort to deal with illegal aliens in several states but somehow Bush thinks that it's a non-issue. Is he out of his mind? The entire city council except for one person and the mayor in Virginia got booted out of office all at once for their support of a day labor center which the voters did NOT want but was forced on them. Does Bush have any idea that Americans are just as upset about illegal aliens as they are about the war in Iraq? I feel insulted by Bush and his comments. Does he actually think we don't see through his BS. Brian Posted by: Brian on October 27, 2006 10:28 AM Poor clueless George. I really do believe he thinks this is not an issue. He is out of touch with the American people. He gets his priorities from Rove. I think the Dems were right when they said we voted in dope. But its not just Bush that is clueless. Its also almost everyone on the inside of the Beltway including the media (the supposed Watchdogs of America, HA!) and the educational elite. All of them clueless. If John Kennedy were around today...he might have had some one else write a book called "While America Slept" and put his name on it. Posted by: MIKE on October 27, 2006 10:50 AM This guy is an immoral, self sufficing, unappreciative of the American worker, corporation loving, slave owning, conceited, arrogant, self embracing, & his own higher power. Posted by: princess on October 27, 2006 11:10 AM This wall and more policing the border is not going to stop the flow of illegal immigrants in the US. The one and only remedy for this malaise is to empower local law enforcement agencies to check immigration status of any suspect and arrest them if they are found in violation. Enforcement has to be at the local level as it is being executed in Hazelton,PA. Also the employers who employ illegal workers should be penalized heavily. Again this can be locally. Federal help which is already not coming, even when it appears might be totally useless. Posted by: crocker on October 27, 2006 11:29 AM UNRELENTING PRESSURE & DAY BY DAY MONITORING OF PROGRESS IS NEDED TO PUSH THE ACTUAL FENCE. We need this fence in the same way that Rome and China needed their frontier walls 2000 years ago. WE NEED TO START A WEBSITE TRACKING THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, like the progress on the building of the GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE. Nancy Pelosi will DEMONIZE HERSELF, as she tries to stop the fence against the will of the people. She can't openly stop it, she will have to do that by pulling unseen strings in her position of great power.We must go after her many times as vigorously as we did, "smiley Clinton". The fence and the SHE-DEMON (Pelosi) who would knock it down or thwart it's ICONIC, SYMBOLISM OF RESOLVE TO SURVIVE AS A DISTINCT CULTURE & NATION.
Posted by: Allan S. on October 27, 2006 11:31 AM Bush has changed his mind so many times that there should be a dart board in his office to show him how to feel each day. He has been wrong so many times, on so many things, that no one in America trusts him anymore. If he thinks he has the power to grant amnesty or to even pass a guest worker program he's is wrong, wrong, wrong. What he has done is let all the criminals from Mexico and other countries cross the border into the southwest and soon the rest of America. Look at Arizona. More crime than any other state. The least intellegent state on our school testings. 40,000 stolen cars a year so illegals can get to Washington and participate in a march for amnesty. An intellegent man, leader, president, would of used American labor, from American trade schools and let this housing boom last for twenty years or more. But, corporations want the money right now, not through twenty years. Bush, got lost on intellegent. What do you think will happen when you have a million criminals laid off from building houses with no unemployment checks. Because, they have been getting cash from illegal sub-contractors. How do you think they are going to make a living? They aren't going to go to missionary school to become preachers. They are going to sell drugs and ruin the lives of American children. They are going to rape and pillage while they shout amnesty junk/ You just look at the Congress ratings, and the president ratings, and then you think about what we must think about when we see your face on TV Bush. Bush should ask himself: "When Americans See His Face On TV, Do we agree with Chavez?" "Do you think America will vote for a Democrat House and a Republican senate, just to stop you from doing anything at all?" "Hell Yes." Posted by: Bootinur on October 27, 2006 11:33 AM The only thing Americans can do is to vote against every incumbant in a federal level race. Posted by: jmac on October 27, 2006 11:48 AM Could hardly contain my laughter with the morning paper today. Fox complaining of OUR inability to see our shared responsibility regarding immigration. Excuse me, Fox. Your leadership has contributed ZERO to YOUR responsibility, keeping people from invading. In fact, you have aided and abetted the criminals by publishing instructions on how to violate our laws...oooh, that was a big help. Calderon has called it a "grave error". Yeah, the error was on our part for letting the first 20 million come here in the first place, and your error for encouraging them to leave. The WALL is what you have earned for your part in the horror you have sent to America. Later on the same page. Mexican police have abandoned the tourist town of Oaxaca, because of the rebellion. Men with machetes attacking women and children. Your country is going down the toilet fast. I want to keep that violence and corruption on your side of the wall. Better set up some tents, too. 20 million of your unwanted, illiterate criminals are coming home to live with you, soon! Posted by: Jeebie on October 27, 2006 12:06 PM
According to a letter obtained by the Toronto Globe and Mail, Canadian officials have decided it(amnesty) would not be fair to those immigrants who have applied legally and are waiting in line. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52649 Posted by: veteran on October 27, 2006 12:09 PM jmac: Come on now, you aren't serious are you? Take the case where you have a pro-borders incumbent running against an open-borders challenger. You would vote against the incumbent to teach some kind of lesson? What lesson? Teach the politicians that they can advocate obliterating our country with open borders and we will still vote for them? Posted by: lance_sjogren on October 27, 2006 12:18 PM THERE IS A CRITICAL WORKER SHORTAGE IN AMERICA We're critically short of good management in Government, many companies and the Elite Media: See the full article (you'll need a library card): Possibly, there's a nurse shortage, but I doubt it [many of the domestic nurses now work less than 40 hours a week]. OK, there's a shortage of low paid workers to pick food? How about this solution; hire good management to run food harvesting, pay good domestic labor decent wages with medical benefits and the price of a head of lettuce goes up 10 cents. Think about it, how many heads of lettuce could you throw in a truck for $20/hr? I'm thinking approx 50-100 per hour, with time to joke and goof off too. This globalist labor shortage hogwash simply has no document in writing to back it up. We generally have plenty of workers in the USA of all skills and jobs, with no need for immigration or guest workers what-so-ever. Prove me wrong "in writing". Posted by: Softwarengineer on October 27, 2006 12:25 PM There isn't a nursing shortage when hospital systems fire people with over 20 years of experience and then scream about there being a shortage. These people are at the top of the salary scale and they want cheap labor. The hospital I began working at in 1979, when I first started my healthcare career, fired over 3,000 people a couple of years ago enmasse. Their crime--being at the top of the pay scale. These people helped this hospital get into the Top 100 Hospitals in the nation--getting fired was their reward for their hard work and loyalty. Don't believe the healthcare worker shortage. Get rid of the 20 to 25 to 30 to 35 million illegals, who use ERs and don't pay, and there wouldn't be a supposed healthcare shortage. Nurses are leaving the field because of the liability issues with people who lie about who they are. They can't afford the malpractice insurance to cover the behaviors of illegals, who rob our healthcare systems. Posted by: jaded on October 27, 2006 01:04 PM "Possibly, there's a nurse shortage..." This topic has come up before. Yes, there is a nurse shortage and, in general, shortages in several areas of health care. Jaded has made a valid point, but there is another variable we should all be concerned about. As Lou Dobbs pointed out last year, there are plenty of qualified applicants to nursing schools and many are turned away due to a lack of enrollment capacity. This could be easily remedied by redirecting tax dollars from pork and into expansion of graduate and professional teaching. Instead, the powers that be would rather see India create nurses-for-America-mills. This is grossly unfair to American students who should be given an opportunity to work in health care and earn a living wage. This practice has been going on for decades in the training of medical doctors. Medical schools turn away qualified applicants and then make up the difference during residency training by recruiting medical students from overseas. Foreign residents represent 25% of America's doctors in training and they almost NEVER go back to their home country to practice medicine. Why do most foreign medical students come to the U.S.? Money, of course. Their first priority is not the health and well being of their fellow countrymen. IMO, this is one factor contributing to the culture of opportunism in American medicine. Posted by: Cynthia on October 27, 2006 01:39 PM Softwareengineer, http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/27/pf/college/lucrative_degree/index.htm?cnn=yes Posted by: crocker on October 27, 2006 02:02 PM Bush the baffoon thinks illegal immigration is not an issue, when most of the American people are outraged... The continued ignoring of the people is just unbelievable... This moron literally has rocks in his head... The fence bill is just another political dog and pony show my friends. Posted by: American Me on October 27, 2006 02:09 PM Cynthia and Jaded, you are both right. And there would be no nursing shortage if illegals were removed from the equation. No shortage of doctors, hospital beds, ER beds. No need for any more foreign nurses or doctors. No shortage of teachers, classrooms. Schools could actually produce all the quality engineers, doctors and nurses we need. Bilingualism and its costs would be history. No money for higher education would be given to illegals, but to citizens, instead. All of our society would prosper, top to bottom, by plugging the massive hole in our hearts and wallets. Both have been bled dry, by the ungrateful. Build the Wall. Do it now. Deport everyone here illegally. It isn't that hard. Arrest the employers. Fine them, give them prison time, confiscate their ill-gotten monies. Harsh measures now are needed to correct the errors of our past. Our near limitless generosity and tolerance has come home to haunt us. Ungrateful illegals no longer quietly steal from society, they are standing together, demanding that you and I serve them. Having strength and courage today may save this Nation or prevent bloody civil war. Stopping ALL immigration, but first, illegal immigration, is the ONLY issue, and the only answer. Failing education, hospitals closing, healthcare unaffordable, collapsing infrastructure, national security, are sub-issues, all hinging on correcting one problem. The pendulum must swing away from socialist dreams and delusions of the past, towards basic self-preservation, NOW. Posted by: Jeebie on October 27, 2006 02:38 PM Fantastic news item! Thank you, Veteran! And thank you, Canada. Now, everyone forward the article to Bush, and all your elected officials. Posted by: Jeebie on October 27, 2006 02:55 PM Mike, Bush may be clueless about ninety per cent of the things in life, I don't know. But when it comes to changing the United States into Mexico, he is the foremost expert on the subject. You have no idea. And if you mean by clueless that he does'nt realize what Americans want, forget it. He and the treasonous Senators don't care what Americans want. Period. Posted by: Bobby on October 27, 2006 02:57 PM HI CROCKER, NICE TAKE ON STARTING SALARIES WITH BS DEGREES The problem for my home town (your's too?), Seattle the pickings are grim for young college graduates with no experience: Here's all 4 Degreed Intern positions from Monster.com for Seattle area: "...Oct 17 Engineering Intern Gee...only $40-44K/yr for ENGINEERS too. Only 4 open jobs in Monster.com, I bet the 100s of 2006 engineering graduates in Seattle will be at each other's throats (Have you seen the movie Dick and Jane?) for these 4 jobs. CNN's article must be for H-1B Guest Workers? These RICH college graduates will grab up the avg priced $600K homes in Seattle like hotcakes too? LOL Posted by: Softwarengineer on October 27, 2006 04:44 PM I can hardly cotain my anger agianst George Bush and his elites who care not for Americans. They only care about what is in their wallets!! And if the country is destroyed they couldn't care less!!! They have all picked out their offshore home already! Posted by: mary on October 27, 2006 05:10 PM Like Bush planned to fund the Iraq war with the oil he confiscated, he is planning on funding the fence with...Tourism! Posted by: JoeC on October 27, 2006 07:35 PM There is no possible way to defend all of the above reasoned and reasonable arguments to someone like Bush or this Congress. They are not stupid. They are not ignorant. They are not intimidated by the American People. While America Slept - Bush skillfully distracted Americans by his failure to prevent 9/11 which was used as an excuse to wage war in the Middle-East. He pretty much set the tone in the State of the Union during his 1st year in office, by raising the spectre of the "Axis of Evil." Now that we are hip deep in American blood in the Middle East, Bush is sabre rattling even more - hoping that Iran and North Korea will give him another excuse to further distract the American People. Bush has always stated that we will not cut and run in the Middle East, but what he whispered under his breath is that we will not cut and run even if it costs the People of the USA every son and daughter we have. While American's slept - Bush has allowed the intensity of the Illegal Alien Invasion to grow. At this point, and on the eve of an election - he signed the "Fence" bill that was gutted by his minions in the Congress even before it went to his desk. PEOPLE - THERE WILL BE NO FENCE AS WE UNDERSTAND THE TERM "FENCE" - OR - WHAT WE WILL GET IS TWO STRANDS OF BARB WIRE PLACED IN AREAS DESIGNATED BY SPINELESS POLITICIANS! IN OTHER WORDS - WE HAVE BEEN SCREWED ONE MORE TIME, BUT NOT THE LAST TIME - AND BUSH KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS DOING. WHATEVER FEELINGS WE MAY HAVE ON THE SUBJECT WERE REJECTED ON JANUARY 21, 2001. Bush is neither ignorant or smart. HE IS SIMPLY A VERY CALCULATING AND EVIL PERSON. THE DEVIL MUST BE PROUD OF THE INFLUENCE HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE OVER THE BUSH FAMILY AND THEIR LOYAL LEGIONS. Posted by: MJB on October 28, 2006 12:19 AM Bobby, I agree with your remark - "He and the treasonous Senators don't care what Americans want. Period." George Bush and the US Senate are going to do what they want to do - even if it means (1) American Citizenship gets watered down to nothing, (2) our Constitution gets trampled on, and (3) our national sovereignty is forever destroyed. Illegal immigration is a very hot issue this election year. And GOD help the USA if Democrats get control of the House of Representatives. I'd really like to know is why are Senators so insistent on amnesty? How does that benefit the average American family? No one has ever explained exactly how Americans will benefit (and placed a dollar amount on that benefit) to American Citizens but instead the US Senators try ramming the amnesty down the throats of American Citizens with no justification - just like Adolph Hitler rammed down the throats of German nationals his dreams in the 1930's. From my experience, the bottom line is amnesty and H1B Visas hurts the average American citizen more than they will ever help. Posted by: DolphinOne on October 28, 2006 10:56 AM Mexico should build a fence on their side of the border just to show us. The fence on our side will probably never be built, at least not until the population increases by another 100m. This was an authorization bill, not a bill to actually fund and build it. That part won't happen. The election is next week after which all will be forgotten. Posted by: iceman on October 28, 2006 10:58 AM ICEMAN'S COMMENT WILL NOT REFLECT THE NEXT TERM A BLOODLESS REVOLUTION IS UNDERWAY...THE OPEN BORDER EXPONENTS CAN'T STOP IT.... RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE PERHAPS A MILLION PEOPLE IN AMERICA WHO WOULD RISK ALMOST ANYTHING TO CLOSE THE FLOW OF ILLEGAL ALIENS VIOLATING THE BORDER. THE CONGRESS WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED TO FORGET THE ISSUE... NOT IN THE LIFETIME OF THE CONCERNED MILLION! The "concerned million" can make life miserable for the "open borders madmen", no matter how many "dumb and dumber", knee jerk ,TURKEY VOTERS Posted by: Allan S. on October 28, 2006 01:13 PM http://www.supportfarmersbranch.com PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION AND HELP THESE FOLKS OUT. Posted by: Stephanie on October 28, 2006 01:44 PM Softwarengineer, you whine too much about h1b visa workers. This country needs these workers because america has turned into an idle consumer society. There are many h1b and green cards here now and more are on the way so try to be more respectful, you may never know who your next boss will be. Posted by: Vish on October 28, 2006 03:24 PM American Me writes: I agree that the fence is just for show--although I think it is vital, (Hey--the fence I have around my backyard certainly works!) But I must say that I long ago quit thinking that Bush has "rocks in his head" or that he is a mere buffoon or that he thinks the issue of illegal immigration is not a big deal to the American people. What I honestly feel that I know now is that he is a traitor to the American working and middle classes--a deliberate and conscious TRAITOR. He has plans--and they don't include us. They include only the corporate elite. The top 10% will live as luxuriously as they already do in Mexico--we will indeed have another Mexico here. The illegals have been used as pawns and have unwittingly been employed to recreate the very thing they think they are escaping. More and more of them come, as they ultimately drive down wages to the level of peonage for the American worker. They themselves and their anchor babies will then be displaced by even more desperate have-nothings who come across in the next wave. The only ones who win are the rich--and they will win more and more. Again, another Mexico is being created here and Bush is the driving force--along with all those who have given their allegiance in secret, conspiratorial meetings about the North American Alliance. Bush is no idiot and he is not uninformed. He is pretending not to know. This provides him with the cover he needs. It fools some into being patient with one whom they think is ignorant and just needs "the facts". Our reaction must be rage at this point. He is without excuse. He has NO COVER! We see him for what he is--a person short in telling truth and one who cares nothing for his people, period. We must see him as he is--know him as he is. No excuses exist for him and he should be given none. For once, I will quote the despicable Santa Anna who played the dreaded "Deguello" outside the Alamo before the final attack: "No quarter." None. Because there will be none given to the American worker. Posted by: J on October 29, 2006 10:50 AM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,k-6997,00.html Posted by: veteran on October 29, 2006 11:09 AM J, good to see you posting again. Where've ya been? Posted by: Bill Dexter on October 30, 2006 09:37 AM |