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April 26, 2006
"Oh Say Can You See, A La Luz De La Aurora" - New Audio of "Spanish Spangled Banner" "A plan to enlist Mexican pop diva Gloria Trevi, reggaeton star Tito El Bambino and other Latin musicians to record a Spanish-language pop version Update 4/28: President Bush was asked today if the National Anthem should be in Spanish. He said, "I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English, and I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English," the AP reported. Comments
WHAT`S NEXT, OUR CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS, AND THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IN SPANISH. THIS IS A DISGRACE! NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WOULD PUT UP WITH THIS NONSENSE, BUT WE`RE SUPPOSED TOO, BECAUSE AMERICANS AREN`T ALLOWED TO HAVE THERE OWN COUNTRY TO BE PROUD OF ANYMORE, AND WHAT DOES ARE PATHETIC GOVERNMENT DO, NOTHING! Posted by: Independent One on April 26, 2006 04:06 PM It looks like this is backfiring on the Hispanics, just like the protests. The fools never learn. Posted by: Born American on April 26, 2006 04:51 PM Houston, we got a problem! As if it wasn't infuriating enough when Mexican flags were flown above upturned American flags, these enemies of our nation have now denigrated our revered patriotic hymn. Wars have been launched for lesser offenses against a nation. Apparently, nothing is sacred to the invaders. But, will our meat-headed, amnesty pushing politicians One of the selling points used by the amnesty peddlers is the provision of a clause that will supposedly require illegals to LEARN ENGLISH to gain citizenship. Either, the swine that made the CD are absolute morons, or they are sending a strong message to America that not only are they DEMANDING citizenship, but they want it on their terms. Which means NO ENGLISH and to hell with Americans, their culture, and their national traditions. Let's hope that some patriotic American will record a CD making a mockery of Mexico's national hymn. That is if they have one. Most importantly, Americans should know that Gloria Trevi, the singer on the CD was charged along with her husband for abducting young girls and forcing them into sexual slavery. When several of the girls escaped and contacted Mexican authorities, she and her husband fled to Brazil. Brazilian police jailed them and she became pregnant in jail, in an apparent attempt to avoid extradition to Brazil. A brazilian cour ordered a paternity test and 75 prison gaurds gave DNA samples. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Trevi So much for Bush's mantra "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande."
Posted by: Patriotic Son of America on April 26, 2006 05:03 PM I think that we should all stick a good sized mexican flag graphic on the front door of evey pro-amnesty senator's office in plain view of all Americans. They (Americans) will at lest know exactly where they stand in the legislative process. I'd suggest replacing the American flag with a filthy mex flag instead but it would be trickier. We also need a graphic to put on the doors of businesses that hire illegal aliens. Posted by: cicerores on April 26, 2006 05:14 PM There is one and only one Star Spangled Banner...it was written in English for all Americans...and as our national anthem, it should never be allowed to be bastardized this way! That would be like honoring our national bird, the bald Eagle and substituting a crow during the celebration...! Posted by: takn on April 26, 2006 06:41 PM Having Gloria Trevi record the Hispanic version of the National Anthem is somewhat like having Carla LaVey (high priestess of the Church of Satan) sing "Just As I Am". Ugh. Posted by: J on April 26, 2006 06:51 PM In response to the postings left by "Independent One," "Born American," "Patriotic Son Of America" and "Cicerores" YOUR! comments are not only Racist! Ignorant! and Obnoxious but your so very misinformed!. How dare you focus on Mexicans only! What, are Mexicans the only race in the U.S. that are illegal? Illegal immigrants are combined of multiple nationalities residing in our country, not only Mexicans! Get your sick facts together! And maybe yes, "latinos" (meaning a combination of other latin countries you fools) are one of the large majority of illegal aliens in our country. I don't believe Mexicans are looking for a best selling record here,you racists pigs! Simple fact is that this is their way of showing their love and gratitude for this country. A country that has opened the doors to freedom and democracy to them. A country that cares about their people and a land of higher opportunity. Nothing more! Which I may remind you, is their right, "FReedom of Expression." No one is trying to change anything here! It is your unhumble and pathetic and racist hearts that lead you to making comments such as these. Shame on all of you! One thing I will remind you uneducated scondrals, is that Mexico once owed a big part of the United States before it was robbed of its land, so zip it! Illegal aliens are not enemies of this country! They are the only ones willing to work for minimum wage while a large majority (According to statistics) of whites and blacks sit down collecting welfare, pushing drugs, turning down minimum paying jobs because they are too good to clean a toilet, pick crops or flip burgers. So lets talk about fighting for our country? Whose the majority out there fighting in Iraq for a stupid cause? Answer me! I know it all! I would much rather reword it and say, "shame on our fellow Americans! Someone gots to work, if they don't want those jobs, well damn it! Let those humble people who are not ashamed of those jobs to stay in this country legally and continue to persue the American dream! You are all nothing more than a bit of selfish racist human beings! Learn to feel some compassion and respect for those that keep the economy of this country going! Tell me you all, are any of you willing at this moment to take a job in the fields of Oxnard or Bakersfield, California picking crops from sun rise to sun down? Hell No! Drive by and tell me who you see picking those crops, 24-7 all year long! You will never see a white or black man, have you? Why, because some Americans Posted by: PROUD MEX-AMER. on April 26, 2006 06:54 PM Hey proud Mex Amer If your a 4th generation American then you should be just as outraged by the illegal alien chaos as every other American is, it has nothing to do with LEGAL immigration. Legal immigrants who play by the rules are welcome in America. So my advice to you is stop the name calling, the delusional reconquista thinking, and all your other babble, you`re not fooling anyone. Your name calling is what every hispanic does when they won`t debate the true facts, so get your facts straight. This is our country, our national anthem, and it always will be, and if we have to battle for it again , so be it! Posted by: American Me on April 26, 2006 10:38 PM Proud Mex-Amer - as the horrendous English and spelling within your letter so obviously shows - you dropped out of high school, eh? As to your 30 shops - just what kind of slop houses are they? And I'll bet you have one or two illegals safe and warm working within those slave shops don't you? When your pitiful arguments come up short, as they always do when you're driveling nonsense about racism, xenophobia, etc. - you resort to name calling. I'm sure you're mother is proud of you. I look forward to spending LOTS of money on Monday - and will work my regular job, because that is what true, red-blooded Americans do - we WORK! I find it truly interesting that you spout off about being a 4th generation Mexican - oops I mean Mexican-American - but I notice that you use lower-case letters for hail to US - but use all caps for VIVA MEXICO - does that make you feel all-important??? It's past time for you to slither back under the rock to which you crawled out of. And bring your 12 million illegal termites with you. Posted by: Birdlady on April 26, 2006 11:03 PM Mexican Nationals/Mexican Americans are trying to dupe the American People into accepting another language which is subversive and dangerous. The "cats out of the bag";true Americans now realize that Mexicans think they can change the USA simply by breeding more babies and refusing to join in the American "melting pot". The more they do to deceive by putting on an American "face" the worse it gets. We now know that La Raza and LULAC are clearly racists groups pushing a Latin adjenda and they have infiltrated our city councils, counties and states. They are only conspirators with the Mexican government in Posted by: Bill Isom on April 26, 2006 11:28 PM Fitting isn't it that a Mexican national, convicted child sex offender a.ka. Gloria Trevi is one of the recording artists. She's not an American, what business does she have traipsing on our National Anthem? That's like having John Wayne Gacy sing the Mexican National Anthem in English. The pro-illegal immigrant lobby is obviously getting desperate and all they do is make matters worse for themselves. They have no clue what it means to be an "American". God Bless America. Posted by: contessa on April 26, 2006 11:43 PM Proud Mex-American. This is our nation and as US citizens we have every right to complain about international criminals, when there are over 20 million of them! How dare you infer that we have no First Amendment right to Free Speech. The US Constitution guarantees the federal government's job is to protect us from foreign invasion; and if you don't believe that 20 million or more illegals in this country is a foreign invasion of the worst kind, then you are the ignorant one. Hispanic is also not a race, so it is impossible to be racist against that which does not exist. Illegal is illegal, as in criminal; and there is no excuse or "love" that anyone can exhibit when breaking the laws of another country. I find that when ultra liberals and the Open Borders Lobby have no point they drag out the race card. Well, I believe that those, who are in this country illegally, are the racists, when they rant and rave about their entitlements and rights; and US citizens had just better shut our damned mouths and take it. We are also expected to pay for everything for these self made "victims". What a crock of crap you are trying to spoon feed us! Go home illegals. March in the streets of the capitals of your countries and make positive Posted by: jaded on April 27, 2006 12:13 AM PROUD MEX-AMER makes arguments befitting a card carrying member of La Raza. Not only does he bastardize the history of Mexico, but also the facts relating to the acquisition of the SW and the Louisiana Purchase. Ironically, he/she even bastardizes his/her ethnicity. I never heard of a Mex-Amer before or a Mexican-American either. Just as there are no Irish-Americans or German Americans or Italian Americans, etc. - there are no Mexican-Americans. Being half Chippewa Indian, does that make me a Chip-Amer? No Proud Mex-Amer, BEING CHIPPEWA MAKES ME A NATIVE - BORN IN AMERICA! IT MAKES ME ONE OF THE LANDLORDS AND YOU THE TRESPASSER. SO DO ME AND MY PEOPLE A BIG FAVOR AND LEAVE!! OH YES, TURN OUT THE LIGHTS BEHIND YOU. PROUD MEX-AMER cannot decide who he/she is or what Country he/she belongs to. If anything is a tragedy - this is. The Native Peoples of America are not at all happy about what we see happening to our land. We are as guilty of ignoring the invasion of the White People, as they are of ignoring the invasion of the Spanish speakers. But, in the end, we will rise up with our White Brothers and put an end to this invasion - once and for all. All that we are seeking is a little intestinal fortitude on the part of those we trusted to elect; those who promised under oath to defend this Nation. Kinda looks and sounds like all the broken treaties all Native Indians have had to endure over these many years - doesn't it. In the end PROUD MEX-AMER, your arrogance and your forked-tongue will be your undoing. You hide behind words like racists and pig and more - but you expose the underbelly of your lies and your deceit. You do your People a grave injustice and those who follow you will end up like the young warrior who was slain by his pride. I am Chippewa and French Canadian and Lakota and German - but I am, first and foremost an American - and an aging warrior who looks to the horizon for Paul Revere and the Minutmen of this Century. PROUD MEX-AMER! YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THESE ISSUES AND THIS STRUGGLE. Posted by: Michael J. Bruning on April 27, 2006 12:30 AM To PROUD MEX-AMER. You are invited to my Cinco de Mayo party this year. We plan to drink American beer and burn a big pile of Mexican flags. Will you join us ? Posted by: pancho villa on April 27, 2006 01:43 AM Proud Mex- WHAT? You are NOT American - I don't care what your papers say. And Gloria Trevi is a puerca - trash! who should NEVER be allowed to sing OUR national anthem. They have the story right. What wasn't factual about the story told here? And as far as these people showing their love for OUR country - Its a SHAM, a MEDIA PUT_ON. Do you think we will forget them stomping on OUR flag!? GO BACK TO MEXICO! WE DON'T NEED HALF-AS* AMERICANS LIKE YOU!! Posted by: SylviaAlvarado on April 27, 2006 03:38 AM To Mex-American who labels people like me as racist pigs. I am concerned about the security and sovereignty of America. If our immigration laws mean nothing and our borders mean nothing how do we stay a sovereign nation? And if Mexico is so great why are so many Mexicans leaving? Mexicans or any other group should be marching in the streets of their own countries to fight for their rights. By the way, there is a difference between human rights and civil rights. Illegal aliens have human rights in any country but not civil rights. If you advocate one world with no borders who shall be in charge? The communitsts, the socialists, the facists or the radical muslim dictators? It sounds to me as if you would prefer the Democratic Republic system that has made America so great. If you want to keep America as it is, our rule of law must be obeyed. I'm well aware of the history of Mexico and the U. S. and I'm willing to take up arms to defend the land that Mexico willingly sold to us on the cheap. How far back do you want to go? There is a big difference between calling yourself a Mexican American as opposed to an American of Mexican decent. Do you understand? Where does your loyalty lie FIRST? It seems as though you have decided. Posted by: American First on April 27, 2006 09:32 AM I love Free speech, I hope its reggaeton. Posted by: Some Mexican on April 27, 2006 10:14 AM To Proud Mex Amer: Sorry, but I have always said we should put a temporary halt to ALL immigration, legal and illegal. Posted by: Born American on April 27, 2006 11:23 AM No real American, yep I said "real" American, need concern themselves with the typical stupid babling of proud mex. american above. He/she broke in to this country because he/she did'nt even own a donkey in Mexico. Notice how at the end of this clowns racist and incoherent rant , he/she could'nt control him/herself ,and had to add VIVA MEXICO, followed by !!!!. Just like the idiots that carry the American flag that has to be forced on them by the marxist organizers of the rallies, and are yelling Viva Mexico with tears in their eyes. He/she loves using the term racist, yet we all saw the cartoon stamps and what Mexico thinks of Americans of African descent. This fool is so patriotic towards Mexico, yet has the gall to comment on a Song that is part of the Shrine of America. Singing it in Spanish is not what bothers most Americans, the fact that it is not a sincere emotion ,and is being used so cynically, is what bothers Americans. After all, you never had these overwhelming emotions of love for America before. These people would sing to the devil if he promised to give them something. The problem with this generation of Americans is they never learned the meaning of the biblical admonition, do not throw pearls before Swine. What is the meaning of being an American, when any drunken bum, can come stumbling across the border, and all of a sudden he/she is an American? PS. Americans are doing all the jobs you mentioned above, right now, in places you have'nt yet come to "help" us. You really don't believe this 200+year old countries mind-boggling structures, buildings, bridges, highways, --------------------------needed Mexicos help, do you? Posted by: Bobby on April 27, 2006 06:00 PM American Me-Illegal alien chaos in America is most certainly everyones concern, but lets stop attacking this chaos on Mexican immigrants only. Birdlady-Gee I most certainly appologize for my "Horrendous" English and spelling. I was just so overwhelmed by the garbage I was reading that my fingers were typing at 150. Good eye! It goes to show you most certainly graduated from Harvard or was it Princeton? Sorry, no "SLOP" houses, a few boutiques, coffee shops and one pet shop with plenty of "Birds." And as far as my "well screened" employess, 80% are white and black. If you need a job I can sure use a "Birdlady" at my pet shop located in the beautiful city of Toluca Lake, Ca. And thanks, both my Mom and Dad are very proud of me. You go ahead and enjoy your well spent money on Monday and work your regular 8 to 5 job. I am gladly giving all my "Red-Blooded American" Employess the day off with pay. Posted by: PROUD MEX-AMER on April 28, 2006 04:25 AM Bill Isom-Just another example of racism. Mexican Americans are American people. Lets see, there is Armenian American, Russian American, Greek American and so on. What is all the fuss over the Mexican People? So the spanish language is subversive and dangerous? Mexicans breed more babies? A conspiracy to take over the U.S.A.? President Bush a conspirator? You are worse than Charles Manson, he thought black people were going to take over the world and have they? I guess he was wrong, it is the Mexicans! Oh my God! We are in serious trouble! What can I say, ignorance at its best! Stop the hate and Mexican bashing! Take a valium and say a prayer at night! Posted by: PROUD MEX-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 05:11 AM Jaded-Yes I agree, as US citizens we have the right to complain about iternational criminals. And I beg your pardon, but I did not imply you had no rights to your freedom of speech!. So, am I to assume that when you speak of these 20 million international criminals you are referring to illegal aliens? Well Jaded I believe the ignorant one is you! The minute this purposed reform came out, with its hateful and inhumane idea of proclaiming illegal aliens as criminals, well this is where your wrong. "All" Illegal aliens are not criminals. Yes, we get foreign criminals that come into our country, but please, not all aliens are criminals! In our country we already have our hands full of the most notorious criminals. Our jails are full of criminals, killers rapists, drug dealers, you name it! So because someone hops the border they are now automatically labeled as criminals! Please! There has got to be another solution, but not this one! Please, please do not insult my intelligence, the word "Hispanic" was never used in my commentary, so back track a bit and save your lesson for someone else. How can you not drag out the race card when this whole issue on this reform is being focused on Mexicans only. They talk about illegal aliens and there you have a mexican flag show on T.V. As if Mexicans are the only illegal immigrants. Crock of crap, I don't think so! Wrong again, self made victims, now you stop your crap! Like I said, check the statistics and you will find that lots of our tax money goes to a vast majority of our fellow americans who prefer to get on welfare, general relief, SSI and any other needs program. Why? Because they refuse to take a minimum paying job! They should have stayed in school, gone to college, and did something more productive with their lives. Or did you forget, we live in a land of apportunity! But no, the easy way out is welfare! So as far as your so called criminals and self made victims, we have our share here in our country and at our expense, so please shut up and get your facts together! And it is because of this great country that unfortunately, so many people from many countries hop the border trying to pursue the American dream. And most of which have the hunger and drive to do what it takes to make it right in this country. We as americans are fortunate to be part of this great country and yes unfortunately not all can be part of it. You Jaded talk as if you are God, "Go Home Illegals." What are you going to do next, part the red sea? And for your information it is not the illegal aliens who are marchng in the street of this country, but all those whom share a bit of humanity and comprehension. Don't confuse yourself, blacks, whites, greeks, armenians, polish, russians, they have all joined together in the hope of coming up with a more decent and acceptable reform. Your free speech is quite cheap and you sound like a genuine racist pig! I can sware that you are related to the grand wizard of the KKK. Shame on you, listen to yourself! Your words don't hurt me nor do they insult me. It is ignorant and hateful people like you that are a disgrace to the human race! And your so right, freedom of speech is the greatest thing in our country (don't forget, know it all, not all countries have freedom of speech lol.) And your so right again, U.S. Citizens fighting for our rights! So that's why, we the citizens of the U.S. will be taking the streets this Monday, May 1, 2006, to fight for our rights!!!!! It looks like the only delusional fool is you! So, before you ever take on someone like me, get your facts together, then I will give you credit where it is warranted. Posted by: PROUD MEX-AMEREICAN on April 28, 2006 07:05 AM Contessa-FYO: This song that is being released I believe today is not a recording by Gloria Trevi only. It is a record combined of several well known latin artists. And no one is getting desperate here, this is just a project that was spontaneously done, yes, possibly at the right time, with the hope of sending a message of what this country means to all immigrants. I myself have mixed emotions on this project, but to imply that pro-illegal immigrant lobby is getting desperate, I am so sorry but you are so wrong. I think that Mexico would be honored if American Artist would do the same. Do the research before you comment. And for the record, Gloria Trevi was never convicted of this crime, quite the contrary, she was fully exonerated from all charges. Music is international and we all have the right to do what we want. So leave it at that. Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 07:32 AM Michael J. Bruning-It is not a matter of deciding what or who I am. I know exactly where I stand! The fact that I was born in this country does not mean I am to forget where my ancestors were from. You've never heard of Mexican-American? Where have you been? Bastardize my ethnicity and the history of my ancestors, I don't think so. Who are you to judge! How dare you! Posted by: PROUD-MEXICAN AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 08:43 AM Pancho Villa- Just another example of racial discrimination. Sure why not Ponch, I'll join you. While you enjoy yourself burning the Mexican flags, I will enjoy myself more seeing you arrrested for desecrating a flag. You know Ponch, in this country it does not have to be an american flag to be arrested. A flag is a flag and you will be arrested. But as stupid as you sound I am sure you might want to ask your attorney if this is true. I figure someone as wholesome and respectable as you, should always have a drive through attorney. Drop me your address and I will be more than pleased to be at this joyful event. Oh and by the way, please change your name, idiots like you do not deserve to use the name of our beloved Poncho Villa. Get a name like Charlie Manson, you know something that depicts you. See you at the party!!!!! Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 09:08 AM Sylvia Alvarado-Excuse me! I'm not American because I defend the rights of humanity and stand up for a cause I believe in? Now you my dear have serious issues! Yes, I will agree that Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 10:49 AM American First- My comments were a result of the garbage I read and in no way is it my intention to offend anyone. You are the only one who has answered in a decent and respectable manner and I do appreciate that. Let me try and explain to you where I am coming from. First of all I am in no way confused of who I am or to what country I owe my loyalty to. I am an American and my loyalty is to my country. But it is hard to get some people to understand that your roots, your heritage and culture grow within you. And when that part of your person is desecrated, it hurts like a stab in the heart. And yes it is the pride we feel but beyond that is the gratitude that we owe our ancestors for their struggles which ultimately landed us in this country. I too, as an American share equal concerns over many different aspects. Home security and sovereignty of America. And its not so much that our immigration laws mean nothing, it is s that our immigration laws are not enforced and have not been enforced for the longes time. I beleive that most every country is great, including Mexico. Unfortunately they are lead by a government which does not care about their people. In the recent last decade, I would say that Mexico has finally prospered in many ways and that their government is beginning to take more drastic measures on all aspects of their economy. Mexico is rich in resources but its leaders cheat the Mexican people of their resources, forcing them to leave their country and face the cruel and dangerous mission of coming to a country where they are not welcomed. Thats putting it nicely. And Mexicans are constantly protesting in the street of their country fighting for their rights, but believe me it is not the same over there that it is over hear. Mexico needs its government to restructure their country. Your absolutely right, there is a difference between human and civil rights. In as much as illegal aliens have human rights. Inspite for their illegal status, they still form part of a community of citizens. We go back to the same thing, the rule of law. How can it be obeyed when it is not enforced. Going far back and pointing senseless fingers is not my intention. Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 12:35 PM Some Mexican- Reggaton and more! Yes Free Speech is great! God Bless! Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 12:43 PM Native-born American citizens, including whites, did all of the "jobs Americans won't do" before the illegals came. I know -- as a California Sacramento valley kid I was one of them. Teen-agers and lower-class housewives looking for pin money did field work and old folks and teen-agers did baby-sitting. Teen-agers also mowed lawns -- whatever happened to that American institution, the teen-ager who mowed lawns for pocket money? Ever read The Grapes of Wrath PROUD MEXICAN AMERICAN? Tom Joad wasn't a Mexican and he wasn't an illegal alien either. Today black teenagers in LA can't get burger-flipping jobs because they don't speak Spanish. Native-born Americans are being pushed aside and denied jobs for being unable to speak Spanish in an historically English speaking country! This is a crime, a crime of our sick and spineless "government" who gives more rights to illegal aliens than people who were born here and who have paid taxes to the California state government for 30 years, like myself. Whoever asked us if we wanted to live in a bilingual nation? Whoever asked us if we wanted to see our linguistic heritage systematically degraded because ONE spoiled brat group of immigrants refuses to learn our language? Everybody else who came here learned our language, the Poles, the Italians, the Chinese, the Filippinos, hell even the Hmong Hill People learned our goddamn language. But not the precious "Latinos" -- oh no, we have to learn THEIR language instead! If the illegal supporters wanted to impress us with their love for our national anthem -- they would have recorded it in ENGLISH. This is just an attempt to shove their language down our throats one more time. They don't have any respect for us or for our national anthem or for our nation. Posted by: Mary on April 28, 2006 01:14 PM How do you say Minutemen in spanish? Posted by: Some Mexican on April 28, 2006 02:10 PM Born American-What can I say, a bit hostile, but some of your comments make sense. As I have always said, we must find a solution to immigration. But it is not going to stop the migration as long as the U.S. does not enforce the core of the problem. It is illogical for you to state that there is discrimination against the American Citizens. How? You make no sense. After college I built my business from the ground up and with no help. If I could do it, anyone can. What discrimination are you talking about? Are illegals taking your jobs in the car washes, fields, housekeeping or in the kitchens? And yes your right, there is a higher percentage of Mexican Illegals in this country. What can I say, its a step hop away. Well you should care how much other countries love our country! What do you want, enemies! Believe me, Mexicans love their country and it breaks their heart to leave it, but hunger has its calling. Hope you never find yourself in that position! No one ever said they are special, but the majority are willing to take the most straneous and difficult jobs, just to earn a dignified and honest living. How often do you see a Mexican in a corner with a sign that says "Homeless, please help." I do,however,see Mexicans in the corners selling flowers and fruit for pennies under the dollar! You see I guess they are special, they are willing to work for their money and not steal from their fellow Americans! Blah Blah, Homeless, ya sure. Offer a pan peddlers a job in a agricultural field and believe me they will turn it down!!! And yes we all work hard, but their situation is much differrent. Your words say it all! You don't fool me, you are racist, selfish and all my useless names! Actually much to your stupidity, Mexico is in debt with the U.S. Maybe the U.S. Can buy Mexico and since you love Mexicans so much you can welcome them legally to their new country! Wouldn't that be great! And what did you say? That Mexico does not bend over backwards to help others? Your full of you know what! Who arrived to Louisianna during hurricane Katrina, before the United States Troops did? That's right! Mexico! During 911 how many military personal from Mexico fought the war? And for your information, the U.S. promised those soldiers residency in return for their bravery! And what did the U.S. do, nothing, they went back on their word and gave them nothing! And many were killed fighting for a country that wasn't even theirs! So you see, in some sort of a way, they are special! Yes the U.S.A. is a great country and that's why I have a good chunck of the American dream and its profits! And your right, I don't like reading the rest of your hateful trash! Stop visiting? Who said I am a visitor! I live here you fool and quite comfortably, thank you! Took advantage of the riches of this wonderful country and am enjoying it! I hope you are too! I would gladly throw in a few free plane tickets for you to visit Mexico, but with people like you, Mexico can do without! You might polute their country with your venum and hate! So crawl back into the hole you popped out of and go hybernate for a coouple of days and think about changing your hateful and racist ways of thinking. Stupid Mexican version, lol...your comments mean nothing to me! And as for your parody, well keep on looking, you just get tired of looking!
Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN -AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 02:18 PM Gee sounds like proud mex American has got some issues, boo hoo... Everyone just ignore the reconquista rhetoric and the race card that`s always played if you don`t agree, we don`t fall for that anymore... Illegal aliens are just that, ILLEGAL, they`re not legal immigrants, immigrants or migrants, and deserve nothing period!... If they don`t like the conditions in there own country, then rise up and change them, like we are... It`s a slap in the face to all the legal immigrants that are here... There`s not a job an American won`t do, but not for third world wages... Get rid of the illegals and go after the employers, and the wages go back up in those jobs. I think the American taxpayer has payed enough... As far as the national anthem in spanish, it`s a digrace to America and the American people, and will only cause another major backlash... The politicians come November will be in for a big surprise! Posted by: Independent Voter on April 28, 2006 02:20 PM Bobby-That's right! VIVA MEXICO! I am assuming this bothers you? Well that's too bad! Actually the only incoherent babling idiot is you, since I have repeatedly said I am American! The pride I feel for my heritage has nothing to do with the loyalty to my country! Well, you're right, I never owned a Donkey in Mexico, because I 've never lived there you fool, but that can be arranged. Money talks and bullshit walks, remember that one! Gee I am so proud you're keeping up with the Rallies, so much that you actually captured those tender moments of tears, wow! You are incredible! You see I don't call those people carrying the American flag idiots, nor have they been forced by orgianiizers to participate in these rallies, I call them true Americans! Exercising their rights and fighting for a cause that they believe in. Don't confuse yourself, all those people in the rallies are in fact true Americans! You see the illegal population, is keeping low, because of people like you. So imagine the imense crowd at these rallies if they were to join us....lol! Nope wrong again, it's not my patriotism towards Mexico, its only my respect for my roots and heritage! And yes, I will defend that country as well from slime like you! What do you know about cynisism? So no we have druken bums coming in from the border...lol!!! Take a trip to your local and county jails and tell me how many drunks and bums we have in our American Jails! Better yet, go down to skid road, in Los Angeles, California and lets talk about bums. They chose to be there because their lazy! Sorry, I disagree, I just came back from San Francisco and Decided to cancel my flight so I could (out of curiosity,) dead head straight on highway 5, through all the fields. Made a couple of stops during my 5 hour drive, and guess what? Not one black or white man in the fields. A couple orientals a few indians! And as far as the high tech structural buildings and bridges, highways and so forth, you hit it on the nose...my husband is a civil engineer and has built many highweays both in northern and southern california. Beleive me we have quite a bit of highly educated and gifted latinos who have contributed to the success of these projects! So zip it! And don't forget that many foreign workers and engineers have played a great and important part in the building of our high rises, bridges and highways. So, please, please save your insults for some real idiot, not me, your a waste of time for me! And if you behave, I just might send you grtandpa pancho's donkey, on the house! Posted by: PROUD MEXICAN-AMERICAN on April 28, 2006 03:14 PM OK PROUD-MEX. I don't normally stoop down to address posters of your caliber. But, given your sad shortcomings, I feel that an act of charity is warranted. I'm quite sure that my facts are in order with regard to scumbag Gloria Trevia. Having her sing our revered national anthem was an absolutely disrespectful act and a direct slap in the face of all patriotic Americans. Your posts have clearly shown that your allegiance lies with that cesspool south of our border. Yet, I can't fathom why you would pledge allegiance to Mexico unless your are a member of the elite Mexican goverment. Judging by your writing skills, I feel fairly confident that is not the case. In that case, please take note of the following. Since the the Spaniards first set foot in Mexico, they have maintained their filthy colonial caste system that has given them lives of wealth, leisure, and complete economic and political power, while giving the mestizo and indigenous masses centuries of subjugation, poverty, and suffering. Native Mexican culture was also wiped out and replaced by Spanish culture. The elite still maintin this iron fisted grip on all aspects of Mexico's economy and government. Take a look at Vicente Fox's cabinet: Do you see a mestizo or indigenous face? Absoutely not. The Spaniards are only 8 % of the population, yet they have run roughsod over the mestixo and indigenous masses for centuries. So, considering all of the above, how could possibly pledge allegiance to the Mexican goverment that has so callously and shamelessly treated native Mexicans? Yet, oddly, not only do you pledge allegiance to Spaniards that have intentionally oppressed your people, you rise up and denigrate America. The country that has given you so many opportunities that are so sorely lacking in Mexico. Think this over. And then think it over again. And again. It seems you're a tad bit slow and repition might help you see the light. Perhaps, trying chanting: Mexico bad, America good! Mexico bad, America good! There you go. You've got it now! PS. I would never burn the Mexican flag. That would be too honorable. No, I prefer to cut it into small sqaures. They are quite handy as toliet tissue on camping trips. Posted by: Patriotic Son of America on April 28, 2006 03:29 PM Proud Mexican-American, I agree with at least 31 words out of the 3,000 or so you have posted here today: "One of the factors to stopping illegal immigration is by starting with the jobs. If employers would stop hiring illegal aliens, there would be no jobs for them to come to." Posted by: Rick Darby on April 28, 2006 03:35 PM Proud mex American is from Cali, go figure. That state is out of control, and billions in debt, gee I wonder why. It`s the same old thing with the pro-illegal crowd. If you want the border secured, and our immigration laws enforced you`re a racist, bigot, and all the other stupid name calling they come up with. They never have any answers, they just hide behind the name calling. When it come to the illegals, they don`t want any laws. Where in any other country, would illegal aliens get a job, home, car, healthcare, schooling on the taxpayers dime, nowhere! Our anthem in spanish is a digrace, Independent voter is rite, there will be a huge backlash. What`s next, the United States of Mexico. Hold our stooges in Washington accountable for letting this madness get out of control. Let`s see who speaks out against this, probably not one traitor politician! Posted by: Save America on April 28, 2006 05:07 PM Hey proud mexican American I think your on the wrong forum. You should be posting on wehategringos.com, or the la raza or maldef websites. Posted by: American on April 28, 2006 05:42 PM Proud-Mexican American - I'm so sorry for my above comments - it is quite apparent that you are just so incredibly above me in your wealth and stature. Harvard, no - Princeton, no - however, I did graduate from pre-school! hmmm.....oh yes, and I am also self-employed (no 8-5) - quite successfully I might add. I have just graduated my son from a well known university, and my daughter is a sophomore at the same place. Guess what??? I am paying for the entire thing - no guvment handouts for me and mine, thank you very much. Now, unfortunately, as you know quite well as you do live in that virtuous, awe-inspiring State of Mexifornia - a good percentage of my children's classmates are illegal and I am also having to support their educational attainment - including college. Doesn't seem to be quite right does it? And guess what Mr. Incredibly "Succesful" guy - I too went from a very meager beginning and through hard work and determination, I too have achieved a substantial measure of success....and guess what? I was able to do so because I have followed the laws of this great Country. Illegal immigration is a cancer upon this Country's soul. No amount of your rambling bull*** is going to convince the majority of American's any differently. And you know what? Part of the blame for this cancer rests squarely on your shoulders. Why? Because your blathering is obviously what you truly believe - except for the part of being a true American. I believe that is just for show. Now as you are obviously so very busy running all of those successful "boutiques", pray tell me where do you find the time to write such poetic prose? Posted by: birdlady on April 28, 2006 06:44 PM Is Gloria Trevi a convicted sex criminal? Posted by: Gus on April 28, 2006 06:45 PM Canada has a national anthem in two languages, English and French. Why U.S. cannot accomodate a Spanish version of its anthem? I don't have anything against it. Posted by: Alex on April 28, 2006 10:03 PM This is unbelievable that our knuckleheaded representatives such as Kennedy and McCain cannot see that they are trying to hand our country over on a silver platter to a foreign government,(Mexico). I sincerely believe this conspiracy is a device of the Mexican government to recapture parts [of[ this country lost during the Mexican-American War, The Mexican Cession, The Texas Annexation, et al. using their illegal immigrant citizens as "agents". I have sent the Immigration Watchdog streaming video : to several Congressmen but I have no idea whether or not they have watched it. They should be afraid, very, very afraid. I am, as we all should be.This is an invasion. As noted by Bill Isom, "they have infiltrated our city councils, counties and states". This is only step one of their agenda. Once they're numbers are great enough to form huge monolithic voting blocs, who knows what is next? Amending the United States Constitution? Absolutely. With the assistance of our blind and benevolent Congress, that should be easy enough. They are prepared to allow a foreign government to occupy America without a shot being fired. I wonder how America ever got along before the hordes of Mexican ILLEGAL immigrants descended upon us. They act as though they were our saviors. The ultra-liberals actually believe that most of these are just poor, innocent, hard working peasants only seeking a better life in America. Sorry, it goes much deeper than that. They are seeking America itself. If it would help get rid of these self-serving interlopers, I will volunteer to pick tomatoes myself. FREE. Posted by: Esel C. on April 28, 2006 11:02 PM Proud Mexican American - I am so sorry that you never put the past to rest and became a true American. Like Mr. Bruning, I too am a mix - mine happens to be Cheyenne & Scottish. I was raised by my Cheyenne grandparents when my mother died, who taught me that honor, respect, and duty were all important. Without those, a person is nothing. I was taught to obey the law of the land - even though it wasn't their law. I learned that I could be part of a bigger "tribe" and still retain the culture of the smaller tribe. Plain and simple, why should ANY illegals (regardless of ethnic origin) who break the law of the land demand not to be punished? Why are you so angry about enforcing a law? Posted by: Cheyenne Woman on April 29, 2006 01:57 AM Hey, actually, as it crazy as it sounds because of the name.of WeHateGringos.com, IT IS ON the Legal Citizens side! Believe it or not, You do want to look at it. I think they said they set this up because either LULAC or MALDEF (I forgot which) said they had put up a site called "We are Racist" and they wanted to counter-react to that site. Since then as far as I know, the "We are Racist" site isn't up anymore. It surprised me too, a lot, but it talked about: How much the illegals hate us & what they are up to. (I think that's why they also named it as they did). They have an introductory movie and...it's a doozy! It's a real shocker, but It's a MUST SEE. This introductory movie was meant to be an eye opener! And oh boy, it was! This site says what the Illegals, the Marches and the groups of MALDEF, LULAC, Mexica Movement etc are up to.I even sent it to my parents to try to wake them up and tell them, :"Hey, we've got a problem and it's a big one!" They talked about these groups, they talked about Vicente Fox and Bush, and showed pictures of the marches. If this web site stays up,.... I truly think it will be every bit as important as Frosty Wooldridge, Lou Dobbs, FAIR, Numbers USA, VDARE, Malkin, Tancredo and Ron Paul. So....even if the name is awful, it is really talking about how much the Illegals Hate Us! And..I think it's really worth checking out..despite the name. And Yea), when I sent that site via email to my parents, I had to explain first that it was on our side, the legal side and no, the site is not anything like KKK or White Supremist (nothing like that). Posted by: Roxan on April 29, 2006 04:02 AM To Proud Mexican-American: Consider this -- the vast majority of complacent Americans would probably never have even noticed the changes to immigration law (just as they didn't in 1965 and 1986), if demonstrators hadn't taken to the street to proclaim rights that they don't have. This is what drew attention to the immigration issue. They stuck their finger in a hornet's nest and now they're unhappy that the hornets are stinging them, and they're calling the hornets name. My question is - plain and simple - why should any ILLEGAL aliens (regardless of ethnic group) demand that they not be punished for breaking the laws of our country? Posted by: Cheyenne Woman on April 29, 2006 12:44 PM Hey ''proud Mex-American:Yo puto,un pregunta,por favor.Why don't you take your racist butt back arcoss the border,with all you amigos and tell that other grande racista Vincente Fox to give you a country?Show some cajones and fight for a country in Mexico.We don't need you here and we don't want here. Posted by: johnnymac on April 29, 2006 07:12 PM How far can the gringo be pushed? Doesn't he ever have a breaking point? Posted by: melati on April 30, 2006 12:21 PM Proud Mexican-American, April 28,3:14,in reply to my commenting on your previous comments, you said,"I've never lived there you fool, but that can be arranged." You mean you might leave!! I hope this does'nt mean America's end. Send me a postcard from your beloved country when you do. Posted by: Bobby on April 30, 2006 06:33 PM I am A puerto Rican American citizan and appauled at the fact that Puerto Ricans were involved in ruining our national Anthem LET THEM LEARN ENGLISH WE SHOULDNT HAVE TO ACCOMADATE THEM what is we were to take the MEXICAN anthem and write it in english and mock it huh then they would have a problem with this because supposably it belings to mexico or how about a boycott in mexico and demand rights in their Country and buy homes in mexico and eliminate all mexicans in mexico I dont think they would like that huh. HIPOCRITS ARE THE MEXICANS Posted by: Milagros on May 1, 2006 09:07 AM CHUTZPAH ! Posted by: Clinton on May 1, 2006 09:31 PM I haven't heard it. Does it say "Jose can you see" ? Posted by: TPage on May 2, 2006 06:59 PM All Americans should visit the welfare, food stamp, housing assistance lines. I do and what an illegal surprise. They are receiving social services, living for free and working off the books. Illegals live better than Americans. Pushing baby carriages is the normal way to go for them and then on to the free "Head Start Program" for their offspring all paid for by American taxpayers. What is the empty headed politicans thinking!!!!!!!!!! Posted by: Marie on May 2, 2006 09:50 PM To every one who posted something here. "Posted by Cheyenne Woman Hey ''proud Mex-American:Yo puto,un pregunta,por favor" i really dont get why you are swaring, didnt your parents teach you any manners? I guees not. well, this is basically just to those who use profanity, stop it, it isnt nice. Posted by: Rita on May 8, 2006 06:04 PM |