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March 20, 2006
New FAIR Study: U.S. Population Will Hit 500 Million by 2050 With Amnesty Depending on what Congress decides to do about immigration - curtail it, expand it - the United States is facing a future population just Comments
The sell outs in congress are about to put the final nail in America`s coffin this spring. They care nothing about what the American people want. If they pass an amnesty, kiss America goodbye! The whole country of Mexico will start packing. AMNESTY THIS SPRING, NEW LEADERS THIS FALL! Posted by: INDEPENDENT on March 20, 2006 02:19 PM A copy of this report should be sent to those in Congress who want amnesty. Posted by: Born American on March 20, 2006 03:23 PM and riots in the street soon after.... Posted by: Greg on March 20, 2006 04:24 PM I HAVE A SOLUTION! That the pro-immigration ruling class will love! And we will also love it! I have the ULTIMATE SOLUTION to America's future. I will be posting it on SteinReport very soon I hope. Just waiting on Karl to review it and decide if I can post it. Karl and all the FAIR team is apparently very busy with all the activity in fighting the current Senate 'shamesty'. Glory is the day, we can save America, restore America to her former glory, give the ruling class what it wants, gives ourselves what we want, even give the immigrants what they want, while also fixing Social Security (retirement entitlements), stimulating our economy, and putting $260,000 in your pocket as a tax rebate! The idea is so simple. It was right under our nose, but apparently none of us saw it until it hit me on the train from Los Angeles to San Antonio. This is the "Henry Clay" style solution. Everyone wins!! The American people will love it, because it gives them huge tax rebates. Yet it is fully funded (by the immigrants!) Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 21, 2006 12:00 AM If these bunch of sell outs we call senator's pass a guess worker amnesty program our country will eventually fail from the inside. I say it time to round up all of the politicians selling out our country. Put them all on ships, and send them to korea, Mexico, China, Africa were they belong. country w Posted by: Ted A. on March 21, 2006 12:29 AM Remember taxpaying US citizens, the top 50% of income earners pay 96.5% of the federal income taxes that fund our government. The lowest 44% pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES. If you are in the 50% tax bracket, better start saving up now, because DC politicians will be digging very deeply into your pockets to fund their need for political correctness. Thank the Open Borders Lobby, the Democratic Party and MoveOn.org for the demise of our beautiful nation. How religious organizations could participate in this added burden on our country is just sacreligious. If you need to tithe 10% of your income, do so to such organizations as FAIR, who are working to find solutions a lot better than stressing out our environment and our infrastructure by adding more people. Posted by: jaded on March 21, 2006 03:03 AM This study alone shows why we need to control the flow of immigration into the United States. Our country will become a third world armpit. What really bothers me is this isn't rocket science. The more people you have in this country the more resoureces they will require and the more garbage that will be created. This doesn't even take into account all the additional crime and new welfare class we will have in this country. If the government succeeds with it's plans concerning immigration the only option left to us is the get every one of them that voted for ammesty out of office and do our best to get anything they passed rolled back by taking the issue to the people and let them vote on it. They are not even smart enough to put a clause into the ammesty that states unless you can prove you were in this country for the last five or ten years you can't qualify. You think people sneaking across the border was bad, just wait and see what happens over the next six months as you have people hoping to beat the deadline to get in our country so they can become citizens. Brian Posted by: Brian on March 21, 2006 07:35 AM "Remember taxpaying US citizens, the top 50% of income earners pay 96.5% of the federal income taxes that fund our government. The lowest 44% pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES." This is highly misleading. Personal income taxes account for only a portion of overall federal revenues. EVERYONE pays social security taxes, and such taxes are capped at $90,000 in income. In theory that's because it's a retirement program, but SSA surpluses have been used for continuing expenses for decades. Now that the surpluses are about to disappear what are they doing: raising income taxes? No, they're slashing benefits. The fact is this is just one more policy that helps the rich. If Tom Tancedo, et al were any smarter they'd come to realize that the best way to twist enough arms to get immigration reform would be to favor higher minimum wages, and oppose extending Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. Posted by: Craig on March 21, 2006 02:57 PM The study is wrong, and for one simple reason: the new immigration "reform" bill about to be enacted by congress is going to do exactly what all such "reforms" have done in the past - raise the immigration rate. The fact is that the enforcement provisions, even in the House version, are just scratching the surface of what needs to be done. Illegals WILL STILL BE COMING, and WE'LL STILL BE DOING FAR TOO LITTLE TO STOP THEM. At the same time, we'll have a "guest" worker plan that will bring an additional million people or so in every single year. 500 million? More like 600 million. But what I find really, really hilarious is that all those greedy rich people who used to support Zero Population Growth and Planned Parenthood are suddenly all for it. Posted by: Craig on March 21, 2006 03:04 PM Thank you, American environmental groups, for your deafening silence on THE number one environmental threat to our nation. I guess when suburban sprawl from L.A. bumps up against the outer rings of Pheonix and Denver gets smog and water costs as much as gas, you can just eat prozac and masturbate to old Audubon magazines. Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 21, 2006 03:34 PM Dont worry! as soon as we are cheek-by-jowl shoehorned into a society as densely packed as India, then we'll REALLY get along. Those imaginary racial/ethnic/social/cultural tensions will blow away on a gentle breeze and we'll all BE ONE. Wont that be great? So authentic! Then and only then will the golden age of peace and plenty be ushered in. Just close your eyes and breathe in repeat the mantra OUR DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH OUR DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 21, 2006 03:46 PM I cannot believe that our bought-and-sold Senators can be persuaded to vote against The Invasion. The federalist system is probably our only and last hope. States still have some leverage that the Washington immigration whores can't completely overturn. Everyone opposed to open borders who can should move to Arizona, New Mexico, or Texas. If millions of us flooded those border states — California is beyond help — and form a majority, we could at least set the power of state and local jurisdictions against the federal juggernaut. It's taking the Minuteman idea a necessary step further. Posted by: Rick Darby on March 21, 2006 05:06 PM This is something every American who cares about this country should read... This is what our elected stooges in Washington are doing to this country... They could careless about what the American people want!... Go and read. Posted by: INDEPENDENT ONE on March 22, 2006 02:21 AM Making my point: The population figures for the US put our 1950 population at 152 million. From then until 2005 the population nearly doubled to almost 300 million. Since that time American birthrates have slowed, but rates of immigration have vastly accelerated (esp. since 1965). The senate version of the new "reform" bill does nothing to slow down that growth because the provisions against illegal immigration just scratch the surface, while at the same time creating a massive new "guest" worker provision, as well as dramatically increasing H1-B visas. More legal immigration will only INCREASE the illegal immigration. So it IS NOT going out on a limb to suggest that our population could easily double in the next 50 years - to 600 million people. Posted by: Craig on March 22, 2006 10:58 AM The USA could easily handle 1 billion people. We have so much unused land (take a train across SouthWest). It is not the quantity, but the quality that matters most. And we do need to replenish our workforce, because the baby boomers didn't produce enough children. Thus I propose a real "win-win" solution to all our problems (immigration included): http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Win-Win%20Immigration%20Solution.html
FAIRUS is in danger of being pigeon-holed and labeled as "extremeist" by the Left & Right, unless they make a realistic proposal on dealing with existing 20 million illegals. See my proposal above. Let's take the political leadership away from our opponents. Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 24, 2006 12:35 PM "The USA could easily handle 1 billion people. We have so much unused land (take a train across SouthWest)." Shelby Moore, are you smoking something? I live in the Southwest. There is a reason why there is "so much" unused land. THERE ISN"T ANY WATER! Prior to last year we were suffering from a 6 year drought that left Lake Mead and Lake Powell at record lows. The entire Southwest depends to a huge degree on water from the Colorado River basin. What will happen when the population is double what it is today? M-I-S-E-R-Y. Posted by: Craig on March 27, 2006 08:53 PM Craig, I stand corrected to the extent that I am not well-focused on the scarcity of water resources. Obviously deserts have a scarity of water. My point is that the quality of immigration is more important to me than the quantity of immigration. Because at the end of the day, there is plently of resources in USA, if we can afford to supply them. Water pipelines can be built if economics justify them. Meaning that if the quality of immigrants is generating prosperity, then I am not too concerned overall about a growing population, because the global trend is that population will peak at 9 billion and decline before I die. In essense, if we make changes to insure that quality of immigration is high, then we simultaneously limit the quantity due to the economics of the quality requirement: http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Win-Win%20Immigration%20Solution.html Fundamentally, my research teaches me that the USA can not remain competitive economically, and can not fund it's retiring boomers, without a workforce that is competitive with countries with large, booming workforces (e.g. India & China): http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Win-Win%20Immigration%20Solution.html So to maximize our prosperity overall, we probably need to import a workforce during my lifetime. At some point, the global dynamics will change and there will be declining populations worldwide. That will be a different paradigm for USA to compete in in my golden years, but we are not there yet. Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 28, 2006 07:17 PM I agree, Craig! Whenever I call my senators, I try to mention at least one major reason (of course) why illegal immigration MUST be stopped. One of the reasons I use/mention frequently is that we simply do not have enough WATER and are rapidly running out of green spaces which are so essential for quality of life. If for no other reason, the massive illegal immigration stampede must be stopped due to such basic things as WATER. (FAIR has excellent information about this on the regular FAIR site.) Posted by: J on March 28, 2006 07:26 PM |
45 years away that could vary by more than 135 million residents. The difference between the highest and the lowest of the scenarios represents the population size issue that Congress and the administration should be focused on as the debate on immigration policy develops this year. If a guest-worker amnesty like the Specter bill passes this year, U.S. population will top 500 million by 2050. State by State population projections are also available at FAIR's site