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March 06, 2006
Indentured Servitude Has Its Privleges Can he sell the Senate "Tarjetas Dorado" aka "Gold Cards" for Illegal Aliens allowing them to stay in U.S. indefinitely? The Stein Report has learned of an secret briefing for Update 3/7: As we scooped yesterday, in a Senate briefing it was announced Specter was pushing the Bush-designed initiative of allowing illegal aliens to receive “gold cards” renewable indefinitely. In other words, a massive amnesty! Both the Star-Telegram and CQ have stories about this proposal. We do know from other Hill sources that the Specter bill is the de-facto Bush administration bill at this point, with the "Chairman's Mark" being drafted with Bush administration input. The phrase "gold card" doesn't appear in the Specter bill text, but was used at the briefing yesterday. From CQ: "Gold card applicants would have a year to come forward once the legislation is enacted. They would pay no fines, and they would not be forced to return home at any point, provided they remain employed. Aides say the program would not provide a path toward U.S. citizenship." The Star-Telegram has more detail as well. "The [gold card] workers wouldn’t participate in the Social Security system but would contribute to future savings through worker investment accounts." Comments
After reading this, I think I want to throw up! How can this man NOT hear the people? How can he continue this line of thinking without consideration for securing the borders first? How can he do this without enforcing the law first? I am at a complete loss as to why we are losing this battle and it hurts to know that our government is selling us out, at a record pace, to the lowest bidders! Posted by: takn on March 6, 2006 06:42 PM "Jaws dropped as the administration reps explained the centerpiece of the program..." So "jaws dropped", did they? Did any of those jaws get to work afterwards and help form protests? Objections? Scornful laughter? What is it that causes these "staffers" (and senators, representatives, etc.) to unite behind these ideas that are so damaging to the American workers and the American nation as a whole? Why the silence? And if there was NOT silence, why is there not a single quote from anyone at this meeting that states what any of us who reads this knows to be true: this is betrayal. Who among us has this kind of liberty to move at will between the two nations, doing as we wish? Do OUR workers who are displaced get some kind of card (platinum, maybe!) to go into some other country and work and displace workers there? And these cards never expire? Every card that I own expires! (Gold, green, whatever!) And since 95% of all crimes are not reported in Mexico, we have (without any doubt) a large number of "undocumented felons" who will now be able to come and go whenever, however, wherever--without even having to renew! I am smelling something sinister here.... And, takn, I would like to quote something from the Bible here that I think fully explains bush's actions and may answer your first question above: I John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." He (bush) has gone out from us (in unity), proving that he was never really one of us. The outcome defines the inner position he has taken and which he always, apparently, held. And by the way: I am sick and tired of "secret" meetings. Only those things which can not bear the light of truth are kept "secret". Posted by: J on March 6, 2006 06:58 PM This is an easy ? to Answer. This BASTARD is NOT listening to the PEOPLE on the immigration ?. NOT AT ALL! All he is listening to is Vicente Fox and the Indian prime minister. Can U believe? We give those scumbags NUCLEAR technology, and we get MANGOES in return! King George II was never considered to be the brightest light bulb in the closet, but his bulb went out about 4 years ago. The scumbag is a complete and certified IDIOT! He qualifies for GOLD PAPERS in that category! Posted by: Macman on March 6, 2006 07:41 PM Read Paul Krugman's column in today's (March 6) NY Times. In his opinion, Bush has no empathy for ordinary Americans. If you're not in the top quarter of one percent of income, he just doesn't get it. If you're 40 or 50+, hey, you can always re-train for a "21st Century" career--disregarding the fact that many of us did just that and have seen it move overseas to India where educated workers will take 1/10 the pay we need to live here. Posted by: Ali on March 6, 2006 08:44 PM The president clearly is responding to special interests groups looking to feather their nests by employing aliens they can exploit. Worse, these same employers use the aliens as a threat to Americans looking for work. Either you accept lower pay or we will save even more money by hiring aliens we can pay at rates no citizen could be forced to accept. Posted by: Rubicon on March 6, 2006 08:56 PM George Bush should have been impeached and removed from office (and imprisoned for treason) a long time ago. He appears to be the most corrupt president in U. S. history. Posted by: Jay on March 6, 2006 09:13 PM "a GOLD card"? Has this President gone absolutely insane? Por favor, like my dad used to say "estas loco"? Posted by: contessa on March 6, 2006 09:57 PM Impeach this man and throw out his whole lying administration. They have no respect for this country or the people who hired them. Posted by: Ella on March 6, 2006 10:01 PM Bush and some in our government are just selling America OUT!... It shouldn`t even be a Democratic or Republican thing, everyone should be against illegal immigration... The rhetoric and excuses Bush keeps using is just getting old, and the pro-illegal people don`t even talk facts, they just call everyone racists... Illegals don`t do jobs Americans won`t do, they do the jobs employers don`t want to pay Americans a decent wage too do... It`s time for voters in 06 to clean out the sell-outs, and take back our government and country!!! Posted by: Erin F. on March 6, 2006 10:14 PM IMPEACH BUSH !!! Article 4, Section 4; U.S. Constitution "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion..." This President is denying all American citizens the constitution protection mandated by Article 4 Section 4. He is refusing to protect the states from the invasion of illegal aliens. This President is willfully aiding and abetting a foreign government in its attempt to destroy the sovereignty of our nation and eliminate the authority of "we the people". NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TRUE AMERICANS TO COME TO THE DEFENSE OF OUR NATION !!! GOD BLESS AMERICA, LAND THAT I LOVE. Posted by: Hakeem FABA on March 6, 2006 10:34 PM Why in the world hasn't someone had the guts to begin the Impeachment of Bush yet? He needs to Posted by: FedUpAmerican on March 6, 2006 10:59 PM Getting accross the border $1,500.00 The ICE Gold Card... It's all you need.... Posted by: Citizen Jim on March 6, 2006 11:11 PM
Posted by: lance sjogren on March 6, 2006 11:39 PM Did I hear "secret briefing" of Senate staffer's by the White House? Did I hear "Gold Cards" for Illegal Aliens? did I hear no checks - no screening - no security checks - unlimited frequent flyer miles? Has anyone bothered to tell our ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES or the American People? Being that this was a "secret briefing", does Bush just plan on issuing an Executive Order to get the issues surrounding Illeal aliens over - and thus, throw the Congress into further chaos and confusion? America??!!?? This guy has got to go as does Cheney and Gonzales and Rove and anyone else who looks guilty, suspicious or nervous. America has been figuritively RAPED by Bush and this Senate so many times on these issues in the past 5 years - that it is difficult to understand her studdering. Where is CSI: DC when you need them? Posted by: Michael Bruning on March 6, 2006 11:46 PM Unbelievable! How can we get the PRESS to publish this stuff? Americans need to know. I sent for my absentee ballot... changing my status from R to Independent.... Wife too... I am sick of this president and the party. They dont want to stick up for americans and this article proves it. Posted by: Greg on March 7, 2006 01:31 AM Well, I think we all figure it's going to get through the Senate. It will likely be McCain/Kennedy. The reason we are losing, is because we can't seem to realize that it's going to be our congressmen who are going to cram this down our throats. Especially the pro-illegal alien Leadership, Hastert and Boehner. Bush and Rove won't mind if the Dems carry this thing. We need to stop fooling around with the Border and day laborer sites for a time and put our spotlights on congress. We need to assemble at congressional offices all over the country. Posted by: Dave on March 7, 2006 02:29 AM And what happens when this "gold card" holder has babies? They will never leave. It's permanent residency. If this program implements, the USA will be flooded with 30 - 50 million grade school educated Latinos, with high crime and high social services requirements (welfare). Posted by: Nessus on March 7, 2006 07:54 AM Unbelievable! no-believable. Am I already in purgatory or is this actually hell? I'm going to call the whitehouse [TOLL FREE 1 800 321 8268] AND ask about this. I dont expect to hear anything except jabbering and platitudes of course-however, a categorical denial by someone in position to know would be legally actionable [!] hmm. This may be interesting! Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 7, 2006 08:07 AM I never thought I'd say this....but I think the time has come to impeach Bush. We elected a "president of AMERICA"....and NOT a co-dictator of Mexico. Posted by: N. Domines on March 7, 2006 08:20 AM This is sickening and nauseating. Instead of "taking the bull by the horns," and dealing squarely and fairly with this issue, we get more half-baked measures that try to appease everyone but American citizens. Where will it end? Posted by: Born American on March 7, 2006 09:14 AM WE can't let this excuse for a president get away with this. He whored out congress for cafta and he's doing it again. WE need to contact our respective senators (fax, phone, email) and let them know that WE know what they're up to and will be watching them very closely on this. If they whore out to bush once again they have to go. I watched CSPAN last night where a panel of current reps, ex-reps and media got together to figure out how to impeach bush before he can get much further in his term of terror. They said that the only thing missing in this cause is the outrage of the american citizen. It was present for the Clinton impeachment but not a bush impeachment yet? The crimes have already been documented. With his poll numbers so low, now is the time to strike. We just need a grassroots groundswell to pull it off. He needs to GO ! Posted by: cicerores on March 7, 2006 10:03 AM I think this is Bush's way to introducing America to a global third world economy. Posted by: John Martin on March 7, 2006 10:42 AM Senors Jorge W. Bush and John McCain want to move the Statue of Liberty to the Arizona-Mexican border. Posted by: pancho villa on March 7, 2006 11:33 AM I'm George W. Bush, Monarch by Divine Right, damn it, and it ticks me off that I have to be bothered making a pitch to a batch of Senators. What part of "Gold Cards" don't they understand? Oh, well, they'll come around without much convincing. But we really need to streamline this process so I can just announce my plan and that's that -- Karl, see to it, will you? Well, it could be worse I guess, my predecessors used to have to listen to the views of a lot of, what do you call them, citizens? Posted by: Rick Darby on March 7, 2006 11:42 AM It seems the only things that will remain reserved for citizens is the right to vote and military service. But wait, if majority opinion is not enought to decide an issue what good is a vote in this so called democracy? And who would want to voluntarily join the military when your sacrifice does nothing to protect our traditional and apparently soon-to-be past U.S. living standards and citizenship benefits for your loved ones? Would the Gold-Card holders be subject to a draft? Or would they also get a free pass on the maintence cost of securing a safe living and working environment for those in the U.S.A.? Our freedoms, including economic opportunites, are paid for in citizen blood, not by some corporate executive or politician. A country belongs to its citizens and our policy makers need to honor that and start making decisions in the best interest of its citizens and not the special interest groups. As a mother to several young boys, I struggle to justify why they should enroll with selective service when they become of age if our citizenship is stripped of benefits and reduced to duties only. Can citizens who have been here for generations also apply for the Gold-Card so as to avoid the rather distasteful duty of dying for your country but keep the opportunity to work at welfare-wages at the employer of your choice? Something to think about. Posted by: concerned citizen on March 7, 2006 11:47 AM I hope FAIR will be updating us on this. Perhaps you could at some point tell us what, exactly, was learned, who learned it, when and how. This is very serious. This implies that the administration is continuing to lie about it's intentions even now. Not that that's a suprise, but this brings us closer to the possibility of impeachment. I hope the staff of FAIR will update us. By the way, thanks for the laugh Citizen Jim Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 7, 2006 12:02 PM The new card should be called the Mexican Express. It will replace the old out-of-date American Express Card. Posted by: pancho villa on March 7, 2006 12:03 PM THE MADNESS OF KING GEORGE!!!! We have now entered the inner recesses of the Twilight Zone and there is No Exit. Except impeachment and institutionalization. A "Secret Meeting" to propose giving ALL ILLEGALS a GOLD CARD with NO EXPIRATION DATE!!! They will be free to enter and exit at will with NO CRIMINALIZATION ...forever! BUT, and this just slays me....THEY CAN NEVER HAVE CITIZENSHIP! Who needs citizenship with a lifetime free pass? Only a retarded Mongolian idiot could come up with such an insane proposal! Get him out NOW!!!! He is truly brain-dead! Posted by: MEXIPHOBIC on March 7, 2006 12:08 PM The IMPEACHMENT clause was created by our forefathers to prevent a president elect from becoming a tyrant and despot during his 4 year term. THIS IS OUR RECOURSE as these conditions have been met. WE NEED TO START THE BALL ROLLING RIGHT NOW! Posted by: cicerores on March 7, 2006 01:19 PM Argh! You commentators still don't get it. The fact that you are all so blind to reality is precisely why this is able to occur. (1) Bush works for the powerful "New York" bankers behind the Trilateral Commission. Google for it. Their goals have nothing to do with us: http://www.bilderberg.org/trilat.htm http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Trilateral+Commission&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_99/schicht010399.html
Did you ever wonder why Kennedy was assassinated? Did you know the Kennedy wanted to return the USA to a gold standard and end the control of the "New York" bankers: http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm We are just surfs, equal to surfs in any other country in the eyes of the powerful.
http://www.europe2020.org/en/section_global/150206.htm
http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Inflating%20Deflation.html Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 7, 2006 01:34 PM I think Jorge Bush has finally gone nuts. Secret meetings on illegal immigration , now that`s just absurd. This administration could careless what the American people want, they just care about the big business weasels. The Democrats aren`t much better either. So unless the people rise up and put alot of pressure on there state reps, the selling out and the illegal alien chaos will just continue. It looks like the American people will have to bring the fight, because the lackies in our government sure don`t care. If they don`t listen, then vote them out. Take back your towns and neighborhoods! POWER OF THE PEOPLE! Posted by: TRUE AMERICAN on March 7, 2006 02:17 PM I have rhetorically asked this question before, and now I'd like to ask again; but if you rename a city dump a "landfill", does it stink any less? I had to come back to read that article just to see if if I was dreaming. Its worse now than I read it at 645 am. How stupid do these people think we are? Let us hope that they similarly misjudge our kindness. I think I know some people in for a RUDE awakening. Posted by: FornaxUltor on March 7, 2006 03:54 PM THIS IS YOUR WAKE UP CALL AMERICA. Your government does not care, they will keep importing poverty and illegals, and will do nothing about the drug smugglers, gangs, violence, and the other criminals that come across our border. Do not believe there rhetoric. If you do not vote these clowns out of office, you will have only yourselves to blame. You think it`s chaos now, wait 5 or 10 years! Posted by: DANNO on March 7, 2006 04:26 PM Who gets the gold mine? Who gets the shaft? Posted by: Gail Roma on March 7, 2006 07:27 PM LET FACE IT FIRST,THERE IS NO ONE TO BLAME,BUT OUR SELF FOR LOOSING OUR PRIDE BY ACCEPTING OUR PRODUCT TO BE MADE IN ANOTHERE PART OF THE WORLD BY IMAGING THAT WE ARE GETTING A BETTER DEAL FOR IT ,WHEN IN REALITY WE ARE GETTING CHEATED BY IT ,FOR IT NEVER LAST, AS LONG AS WHEN IT WAS MADE HERE IN THE U.S.A FOR A PRODUCT MADE IN AMERICA WAS MADE WITH HONOR BY WORKER WHO EVEN THOUGHT THEY GOT PAY GOOD THEY PUT PRIDE ON IT FOR THEY KNEW THAT WHEN AMERICAN LABEL WAS ON IT. THE WORLD HAD SECURITY THAT A PRODUCT MADE HERE WAS WELL MADE AND NEED NOT WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT SINCE WE LOST OUR PRIDE, OUR LEADER ARE NOW TRYING TO DESTROY OUR AMERICAN WAY BY FIRST OUT SOURCING JOBS TO OTHER COUNTRY , SECOND ACCEPTING ILLEGAL ALIENS TO TAKE AMERICAN JOB ON BLUE COLLARS FORCE TODAY ,AND TOMORROW TAKE OUR PROFESIONAL FORCE BY PROVIDING THE ILLEGAL ALIENS IN STATE TUITIONS FEE TODAY AND PLUS PROVIDING THEM WITH HOME LOANS TO PURCHASE A HOUSE AT LOW COST, I FEEL THAT ANY POLITICIAN WHO GOES AGAINST WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF OUR NATION SHOULD BE CONSIDER A TRAITOR TO OUR NATION AN SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AS SOON AS POSIBLE AN LEAVE IT TO A PERSON WHO WILL REPRESENT THE AMERICAN IN GENERAL, AND NOT ONLY SPECIAL ITEREST WHO WE ARE GETTING RIP OFF BY THEM BY CHARGING US HIGH PRICE WHEN THE PRODUCT IS NOT MADE IN AMERICA IS MADE IN CHINA, INDIAN OR OTHER NATION OR BY HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS . I THINK IS NOW THE TIME TO TAKE BACK OUR PRIDE , HONOR , AND COUNTRY IN OUR NEXT ELECTION . REMEMBER AMERICANS FIRST (ANGLO-AMERICAN ,MEXICAN-AMERICAN,ASIAN-AMERICAN, AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND ETC.....) Posted by: AMERICAN FIRST on March 7, 2006 07:56 PM Must be the NEW WORLD ORDER plan!!! Posted by: Greg on March 7, 2006 09:02 PM I keep seeing in this post to vote the bums out. Problem is they control the ballot box, too. And they only run elites for office. I'd like to see some peaceful protests and also giving a "cold shoulder" to illegal aliens. (Did you notice in the schooling and medical systems, the government has made it "illegal" to ask if a person is illegal--so we don't know?) This has been planned a long time. Our government simply does not work. We have lost our democracy. What goes on today is just a puppet show for the people. How can people can be so evil? Yes, evil is alive and well and it resides in Washington DC. Posted by: pdc on March 7, 2006 09:12 PM Congressman John Conyers, of Michigan, introduced a bill to the House, in December, 2005, to investigate many of Bush's actions on grounds for impeachment. PLEASE! all of you e-mail him with your opinions and your support! It seems he's looking for "the right timing" in following through with this. PLEASE LET HIM KNOW THE TIME IS NOW and he has bipartisan support on this. Posted by: Ella on March 7, 2006 10:00 PM
Posted by: Patriot-L on March 7, 2006 10:18 PM I read all the information I could find about Bush and his family before the the 2004 election. I knew he was concerned ONLY for the wealthiest in this country and in the world, so I didn't vote for him. I was very unhappy when he was "elected" (What was he doing in Ohio early election evening, before returning to the White House?) but, I never dreamed he could destroy our way of life so quickly and completely. He's reduced our water and air quality; Congress is working, this week, on getting rid of 200 food safety laws; He's the world's biggest block on the global warming issue,(even threatening our scientists to keep quiet); He got rid of TONs of worker saftey laws, (incluging mine safety & we all know how that turned out.); He's fixed the labor laws so we can all work longer and harder without compensation; He's working to make suing for faulty products and medical devices against the law, (frivilous law suits, you know); He has encouraged companies to do away with pension plans and health benefits,( We can all save up enough money for life threatening illnesses, surgeries, etc.); the list goes on and on. If anyone's interested in TRUELY supporting impeachment, go to www.impeachbush.com or Impeach Bush Coalition or AfterDowningStreet.org. I just want to add one more comment. There is PLENTY of evidence that Bush KNEW about 9/11 and cooperated in staging the attack. Think about it. This "war" gave Bush the opportunity to usurp our rights and claim absolute power, Posted by: Ella on March 7, 2006 10:25 PM "And who would want to voluntarily join the military when your sacrifice does nothing to protect our traditional and apparently soon-to-be past U.S. living standards and citizenship benefits for your loved ones?" - Concerned Citizen You got it just right. I'm a man nearing the end of military eligibilty. For minor medical reasons (which are probably now excusable, thanks to recruiting difficulties) I was denied entry into the guard 15 years ago. I have seriously considered trying to join again. Most certainly not for the pay (I would take a real hit), but because I value the sacrifice of soldiers and want to one day be able to show my grandchildren a picture of me in uniform and say "I served." No more. I will not fight and die for a country that believes in judicial supremacy (tyranny by another name). I will not risk my life for a country where it's illegal to criticize your politicians within 60 days of an election. I will not fight for a country that has reverted to medieval feudalism through its tax and immigration policies. That country - the country I would die for - is gone. I would die for it yet, if I thought there were any hope of getting it back. Posted by: Craig on March 7, 2006 10:32 PM Get behind a man with guts enough to care about the will of the people instead of the money of big business. TOM TANCREDO TEAM AMERICA Posted by: Delbert Thrash on March 7, 2006 10:41 PM Vote them out of office? Are you serious? Didn't you ready anything I wrote above? All media in USA is controlled by 5 very rich families. They control what we eat, what drugs we take, what education we get, how we think, etc.. THEY CONTROL HOW WE VOTE, at least 50.00001% of us. And if necessary, they can even change our votes to win. Did you really believe that crap in high school that we have a democracy? We never had a democracy. Never will. Never existed one in history of world. Never will. Grow up. Learn how the world really works... power is power... what is your power? There is only ONE WAY you take back control over your country. You take action. Real action, not wasting your time in "voting". I can not mention what kind of action that could be, because based on US law it could get me thrown in jail for sedition. So instead I advise to save yourself by buying GOLD and SILVER as fast as you can, before it is too late... almost too late... 2007 or 2008 is the end of cheap precious metals...and the end of US dollar... and the end of the value of everything you own and do... Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 8, 2006 04:29 AM Those of you complaining (aka b*tching) about illegal immigrants better be thanking God that you were born in the United States. Be grateful that you were born on the "right" side of the border. Because if you weren't, then maybe you'd have a *little* more sympathy and compassion for people that are here trying to make a decent living and provide a better future for their children. Posted by: ChicagoChicana16 on March 8, 2006 02:36 PM ChicagoChicana16, I do thank God for being born an American citizen. I also pray to God that human beings NOT born American citizens can one day live like we do. I just don't think that comming here en-mass will achive that. Instead, I'm worried that our economy will collapse under the weight of all these human beings and then no-one will live like this. Your thoughts? Posted by: Bill Dexter on March 8, 2006 03:11 PM It`s our border and our country, period. If the people sneaking across our border are just hard working people, then explain the tons of drugs seized, the shootings and murders, kidnappings, gangs, criminals, along with the thousands of people from arab countries caught everyday. You can`t exclude anyone. If they want to come here, then do it the LEGAL way. The border needs too be sealed off, period. A triple layer security fence is much better than a 3 foot high piece of barbedwire on a stick. The pro-illegal crowd just use the same old excuses, and if you don`t agree, you`re a racist. The American people aren`t falling for that rhetoric anymore. Take back your towns and neighborhoods, and TAKE ACTION in 06! Posted by: TOP DOG on March 8, 2006 03:26 PM To ChicagoChicana16: You are so very wrong! Those that are crossing are, indeed, "terrorists"! They strike terror in the heart of our legal Hispanics seeking work, our Blacks, and our working class whites. They strike terror in the heart of hospital workers who deal with them crowding up the emergency rooms day after day, STEALING services meant only for Americans and paid for by Americans. They strike terror into the heart of educators who see their schools' ratings fall from "acceptable" to "unacceptable" due to a culture which does not value education but which piles their students into the classrooms where they take away funds meant for our own children. They strike terror into the hearts of young and even old women who must walk past a group of them at their bus stops and endure their "sssttt' sounds accompanied by bald and lewd comments. They strike terror into the hearts of taxpayers everywhere who must foot the cost of these people who, contrary to myth, do NOT "come just to work", but who now come WITH THEIR HAND OUT, GRASPING FOR THOSE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO! Posted by: J on March 8, 2006 04:06 PM ChicagoChicano: You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First of all, I am glad I was born in the U.S.
Thirdly: It is not fair for you to destroy our nation so that you can live a better life, especially when you have no legal right to be here. Posted by: lance_sjogren on March 8, 2006 04:45 PM ChicagoChicana16, a lot of us have, at various times, expressed sympathy for the plight of the illegals themselves. I sure have. However, it's misguided to encourage this illegal human smuggling operation in the name of helping people. It's also culturally chauvenist and ethnocentric to assume that bringing people to America automatically gives them a better life. When you say that immigration is good for Mexicans, you are putting Mexican culture in a lower-status position. Does Taco Bell and consumerism lead to a higher quality of life? Or is that a notion born in corporate board rooms? In fact, the illegal smuggling operation is throwing Americans out of work and is exploiting people who are desperate...but also is lining the pockets of a small group of people. If this continues, there will be nowhere in the Hemisphere were English-speaking people can live and flourish...not to mention the congestion, strain on resources and human stress this corporate-style merger between the US and Mexico will cause. If you want to truly help Mexicans, then why not pressure the Bush and Fox Administrations to develop jobs and prosperity in Mexico, so that these human beings can stay home, with their families, speak their native language, and through a lower cost of living, achieve a higher standard of living? This is what economic development is all about...raising living standards, not lowering them by driving down wages across the continent. Americans are getting battered by an all-out war on the Middle and Lower Classes. As an American, I demand that my government representatives hear our concerns. To do otherwise is to not have democracy in America at all. Posted by: FCannon on March 8, 2006 04:46 PM What the Senate is doing behind closed doors is nothing short of TREASON. Congress is outsourcing our college educated jobs (H1B Visas) and in-sourcing low skill jobs. When are the American people going to wake up? This country is being systematically destroyed by our elected leaders by un constitutional acts of treason. When did the congress get the authority to allow foreigners to take an Americans job through the issue of H1B Visas and other scams. The middle class is being destroyed people and one day you will wake up when an Illegal Alien is hired to replace you. I have not been able to get a job in 3 years with 2 college degrees that are useless! Posted by: ScottyDog on March 8, 2006 05:12 PM Since when is it America`s problem that Mexico does nothing for it`s people. Isn`t that reconquista Fox and his corrupt government`s problem. They just come here to work is an old tired excuse that`s been used for years. If that was the case, then why are prisons filled with illegals, gangs are out of control, drugs and humans smuggled across the border everyday, and so on and so on. Sound like hard workers too you? This anarchy will stop, only if the lackies in our government feel the pressure from us the citizens, pressure and heat is all they understand. Get out there and make noise!!! Posted by: M.T. on March 8, 2006 05:28 PM Another 3 - 5 years, and we will feel very *UNLUCKY* to be born USA citizens. For one reason, globalization means our standard of living has to come down to the standard of living of the entire world. On top of that, our educated workers are retiring, and we are replacing them with illegal, low-skilled, huge chain immigration, inner-city slum families. The high-skilled H1B imports earn their capital here, then return to India or China to build businesses in their native land. The migrant workers send their earnings out of our country in a significant percentage. Bottom line is that USA citizenship just makes you indebted to $57 trillion of total USA debt, not including entitlements. Being a US citizen means you must serve in the upcoming World War 3, you must pay back all the debt, you must pay for all the poverty that has been imported. This is why I am buying silver and gold as fast as I can. In the coming years, our government will have no choice but to print massive amount of dollars to cover the debt and costs above. The under-class will demand services. So the value of the dollar will plunge. The global economy will collapse and implode as it did in the last Great Deression. And no one will trust currencies, real estate, stock markets, and even banks (after massive failures), so the only thing people will trust are those things which are scarce and have intrinsic value that can not be manipulated by governments. That is gold and silver. The rich people in USA are buying gold and silver as fast as they can. That is why the price has been going up 30% per year. But something in 2006 or 2007, the buying will go vertical as a mad rush of people realize they must save their a$$. You can still buy precious metals at historically cheap prices. But not for long... the future is certain but most people can't see it yet. You still have a chance but not for long... With our currently $57 trillion det inflated economy, we see the cracks, but we don't yet feel them. When it starts to actually collapse, the effects are going to be shocking. This should start within 2 - 3 years maximum. Maybe this year. Imagine this. $57 trillion is enough debt to make 1 in 30 people $millionaires. That includes babies and elderly. When that comes due, and starts to collapse, then you will finally realize that: USA IS ALREADY A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY! We are UNLUCKY to be US Citizens. Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 9, 2006 04:41 AM PRELUDE -Sir Clifford N. Alford-New Mexico Border Watch (signed) Posted by: Robert Garrison on March 9, 2006 11:30 AM Upon reading these posts, it`s great to see Americans mad as hell over the illegal alien madness. I agree 110%, but it will just continue unless everyone gets mobilized and does something about it. Venting is great, but taking action is what needs to be done. Get on the phones, send faxes, e-mails, or whatever else you can to put the heat on your sell out reps in Washington. Go to numbersusa.com, fairus.org, americanpatrol.com, and start the fight. The American people need a 9-11 type unity to stop this chaos, because the lackies in our government sure don`t care. The ballot box is where we can clean the government up. Let them know it! Posted by: 2 CENTS on March 9, 2006 02:06 PM Chicana, It is NOT the responsibilty of U.S. citizens to pay for education, health benefits, and other social services that many U.S. CITIZENS cannot get. It IS MEXICO's responsibility to provide these things for its citizens. Why don't you write Vincente Fox and tell him to take care of HIS people? It appears that many in the Mexican culture feel entitled to U.S. services. Why is that? Posted by: Ella on March 9, 2006 02:45 PM I get to live amongst the Chican people and they are hard working. Hard working at digging thru my garbage to get credit card numbers and otherfinancial info. Hard working at breaking into cars and garages. Hard working at filling the streets and alleyways with garbage and rat food. Hardworking at stealing American jobs to pay for bass booster systems to blast their ranchero(hillbilly mexican) music at the Americans. Hard workng at having kids to steal American tax payer money and social services. They're hardworking alright, so are all criminals. Hard working at their crimes (night and day). I can only hope the deserts are hot this spring and the snakes are hungry. Posted by: cicerores on March 9, 2006 05:30 PM
OK, let's fix Mexico. Hey, just one problem. Mexico is a sovereign nation. So are these open borders lobbyists suggesting that the U.S. should launch a military takeover of Mexico? If not, they should shut up about the "fix Mexico" nonsense. Posted by: lance sjogren on March 10, 2006 12:20 AM chicana - u have not assimilated into american society. u need to go home, stand in line to come legally. My family did, so can the rest of the world. You see... the world would like to live in america... we cannot put the whole world here, now can we? Just bc mexico is next door... tough. The legal chain of events in my mind is open to all the immigrants of the world, legally. Again, go home. Talk to fox, et al those elites in mexico you're so proud of. Posted by: Greg on March 10, 2006 01:01 AM "bush" has never done anything on his own.I don`t think he has ever left his house by himself. Posted by: Jerry Alexander on March 10, 2006 05:34 AM Interesting extra information from the MSN page: "Ranks of the ultra-rich rose 15% last year, as stock markets and emerging economies paid off big. " Yes, the rich get richer and why? A comment from Barney Frank on Lou Dobbs on March 9th: (see transcript of show) "The problem now for them, Republicans, is George Bush is never going to run for anything again; my Republican colleagues are. That may be why you're beginning to see a separation for the first time, because you are absolutely right, the policy of this administration has been that the way for the rest of us to prosper is for the owners of capital basically to get a totally free hand. " Yes, these capitalists have had their "totally free hand" with the results we see in the first quote. Obviously, the tide that raises all boats is now only lifting certain luxury yachts. And the agenda moves on....
Posted by: J on March 10, 2006 08:57 AM Bush's chosen millions are supposed to be marching today in Chicago. Where will DHS be? They have all the criminals in a solid group so why not take the opportunity to ENFORCE OUR LAWS? No need for superbowl stings, no need to spend money on a ruse, ALL THE CRIMINALS ARE IN ONE PLACE! One good thing will come of this march for me though; my neighborhood will be a safe place to live for a few hours. [I hope the rats march right along with them since one always goes with the other]. Posted by: cicerores on March 10, 2006 09:53 AM There is an easy, non-agressive and money saving way of stopping illegal immigration. We give them no more jobs and no more services. That is why they are coming. That is why they stay. In California alone, it costs $10 billion a year to support the weight of illegals in providing schools, medical, welfare and prisons. And the numbers are increasing exponentially to receive benefits and to stay here. I have long held the view that this is only another form of the sin of slavery for which thousands died to erradicate that sickening practice from this nation. Then, as well as now, it was business that drove the practice. Cheap labor. But then, as well as now, the practice will lead to war and the split of the Union. It is well to remember that World War I was begun over the threat of war with Mexico. Germany's foreign minster sent a note to the Mexican government which was captured. Known as the Zimmerman Note, it laid out plans for Mexico to enter the war with Germany against the United States. Mexico's reward would be the annexation of the American Southwestern states. This dream still lives only it is a covert war. Like ants swarming a large bug, which is eventually overcome by sheer numbers and is killed, so we are being invaded. Vincente Fox calls it "el reconquista". The reconquering of America. Well underway, 70% of Los Angeles schools are now hispanic, getting their curriculumn from Mexico. This is a war, not fought with guns and bombs but with demands and guilt. But cheap labor comes at a high cost. It is a poison that the business community is gobbling up. Our ease, our greed is our undoing and those who see us as their plum prize, are counting on us to be lulled in our complacency until it is too late. It is well to put up a fence. It is well to put up the military on our border. The Mexican government has their military there and it has actually made incusions into our country, shooting at our border agents! They help the drug dealers, as well as the illegals cross. Certainly, Americans want to have our border defended, especially now that terrorism lumes as a threat. Unfortunately, politicians see this as a re-election strategy, sensing the rage that is growing around the country. But it is far more than that! They wring their hands, saying that it is physically impossible to round up the 12 million who are estimated here illegally and send them home. We just don't have the manpower or the will to do something so contrary to our American values. We won't have the manpower to enforce the Guest Worker Program, either, but that is all part of the larger plan of open borders, anyway. Who in Washington has the guts to put into legislation, and to pass, the law that prohibits taxpayer money going to the support of those who broke our laws? Who is going to deny them jobs, welfare money, schools, hospitals and food stamps? In L.A. they are sinking hospitals who cannot support the overwhelming influx of those who cannot pay but, by law, must stay since they have no where to go. Who in Washington has the guts to stop the practice of letting illegals give birth here and have their children automatic citizens; so-called "anchor babies"? Do you realize this will be happening with the Guest Worker Program? They won't leave. They have American children. But they will leave in droves if we take the simple steps now. A taxpayer's revolt! We want our money back. Mexico can deal with it's own problems and our states will be in the black. Simple. Don't give and they will leave. Posted by: Marilyn on March 10, 2006 11:46 AM Excellent posts and points--all! And I CELEBRATE the arrival of all the new posters! Every new name is a gift and a blessing! Posted by: J on March 10, 2006 12:21 PM I agree with Marilyn. A tax payer revolt IS what is necessay. Hey, you know, we could all admit to being tax cheats and march through a major city in protest of taxes! YEAH, THAT'S IT ! Posted by: cicerores on March 10, 2006 12:40 PM Greg wrote: "Shelby - serving this nation is the best thing anyone can do for their country - people." Serving the few rich is not my idea of "best thing". You will fight a war for a King? This country is run by Kings who don't have a name. They are wealthy families who control all the LEVERs in our society. That you don't get that, is precisely why they can do what they do. You can lose a leg for them, while they steal your wealth back home and leave you to retire in poverty. That is really "best thing". NONSENSE! Posted by: Shelby Moore on March 10, 2006 02:12 PM It`s time for every American to revolt against our pathetic politicians.. They just keep ignoring the will of the American people. Jorge Bush wants to hand out gold cards to illegals, could he get anymore insane. The Dems are just as bad, they won`t do anything either, and we just keep paying the price. They keep slamming there rhetoric down our throat, and if we don`t agree were either racist or xenophobes, it`s the same old nonsense. What part of illegal don`t these morons understand. They sit up there in there Washington bubble , while we the people have to put up with the chaos. No other country in the world would put up with this crap, but I guess our government wants us too. Now how pathetic is that! Posted by: Independent One on March 10, 2006 03:35 PM Whenever lame duck Jorge Bush opens his lying mouth about illegal immigration, the mexicans start packing there backpacks! Posted by: Joe Mayo on March 10, 2006 07:52 PM Oh, I guess Bush doesn't realize that amnesty would encourage even more of an illegal stampede. He should go hunting with Cheney. Posted by: mvo on March 12, 2006 02:09 PM
You don't have to. John McCain has already rounded them up to attend his campaign speeches. Posted by: lance_sjogren on March 13, 2006 02:13 PM I wrote the Senators of the Judiciary Committee tonight in regards to the upcoming Immigration Bill headed by Senator Specter. I respectfully asked them to consider Representative Tancredo's points in his letter to Senator Specter on the upcoming Immigration bill. The majority of American citizens are tired and frustrated with the lack of action by this administration to curb illegal immigration. My forefathers were immigrants and they came to this country to make a better life, but they did it legally. They didn't fly their former country's flag on their front porch and they learn the English language. They were proud to be an American and helped make this country the great nation it is today. Today, we are flooded with illegals in our schools, they take from our social systems, and they bring lawlessness, diseases, and drugs to our communities. They take jobs away from legal American citizens and we are tired of giving away our hard earned tax money to people who break our laws and don't want to conform to our way of life. It's time that the hard working American citizen, that pays it's hard earned taxes, be recognized by our representatives from sea to shining sea. I asked them to be a strong sounding board for the American people on this important immigration issue. P.S. Also, have you noticed on the packaging of products we purchase that English isn't the only language. Who do you think pays for this? Again, the hard working legal American citizen. Folks it's time we made a stand. You are either with us or your against us!!! Now were did I hear that??? Posted by: William Tell on March 13, 2006 10:08 PM |
Senate staffers by the Bush administration today. In a move to build support for Bush's guest worker amnesty plan, administration officials talked about how they would actually implement the program. Jaws dropped as the administration reps explained the centerpiece of the program, a "Gold Card" that would enable illegal aliens to enter the U.S. at will, and work at any job with no labor market or other tests needed but would deny them citizenship. "Gold Cards" would be valid forever, similar to current "Green Cards" but illegal aliens holding a "Gold Card" would not be able to adjust their status through naturalization.